I have to answer that in front of 200 people ... all my ideas are boring ... anyone have any witty advice?
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Should go with your own boring answers rather than lying and using advice you've never actually gotten.
Going to Michigan and choosing naval aviation after 4 years in the NROTC program were two of the smartest career decisions I ever made. You may see me doing the fly over at Michigan Stadium in my F-18 one day...that's the dream anyway.
Guys in my squadron have flown flybys at Mariners games/ KC Chiefs games.
I'm interning with NGC, working on GSE for their electronics on the Growler. My manager did similar work on the EA6B back in the day.
That Growler is gonna be some serious bad-assery for the Navy. Just wish it would come on line a few years earlier.
Yvan Eht Nioj
Got to see the world, held amazing positions in the Navy and gained valuable experiences and lessons. Landed me my dream job after service.
Always thought I lived more at 25 than most in a lifetime. Best decision I ever made.
Oh, wait. That's those other guys. The ones in cammo.
If not I'm a super dork.
Don't forget about Future Tech for the 10% score bump
When I first watched this with my Dad he burst out laughing... and I was asked him... "How did they know plastics were going to be so amazing?"
And after some explaining I realized that joke will forever be lost on my generation and for many many generations to come :(
That and Cool Hand Luke are my favorite movies of all time... and I think Mr. Culbertson at Huron would concur with me.
I've been listening to my gut since I was 14 years old, and frankly speaking, I've come to the conclusion that my guts have shit for brains.
One piece of advice I WISH I'd gotten, though, would have been to avoid law school. I happened to enter at the worst possible time in the last 50 years. So... shit.
currently in law school as well...not worth the cost of loans in my opinion
I graduated last year and passed the bar last summer and still haven't found a lawyer position.
I'm hiring partner at my firm (sorry, but we're full right now). The legal market is the worst I've ever seen it. The pitiful salaries firms can offer people right now because of the glut of attorneys on the market make it not worthwhile to go to law school because it will take forever to pay off the student loans. Small and mid-sized firms I know were offering first year associates $50,000 ten years ago are now offering $30,000 and not always with benefits.
By the way, you can blame the law schools for much of this. I only graduated law school 13 years ago and since then the number of law schools and spots in those schools nationally has doubled. Colleges and these independent law schools like Thomas Cooley in Michigan know it costs nothing to open a school (empty building and a small full time faculty, fill in the rest with adjunct professors/local lawyers. You don't even need a library full of books any more since most research is done online), they can charge an arm and a leg and churn out as many grads as they can with no regard of what happens once they've matriculated. Not bitching about the quality of grads (although I think its declining) but the sheer number coming out is causing salaries to go down.
I'm in agreement with you there.
I've been contacted by employers and they have basically said, that since the market is so tight, they can hire an execptional candidate for a lowball offer.
That being said everything is cycical and people who are just starting law school should see a different market by the time they graduate.
"Never drink at lunch. But never let your boss drink alone." This came moments before I boarded a plane at Toledo Express to start my job in San Francisco. Pretty much the most sage advice I have gotten. Second best; "Never be afraid to be the one person in the room that will make a decision." Also, my Father.
Excellent advice. Very often in life you and your group will do the things that you prefer if you're the one willing to make the decision when everyone else is just saying "I don't know, what do you think?"
Go Big or Go Home - Johnny Tsunami
Dont be a slacker
Don't ever say "can't" to me again. I hate that fucking word.
Funny, got that same advice and never understood what it meant, so I banged a bunch of girls at work. Oh well.
Never take a dip in the secretarial pool.
I would agree, but I've been dating a girl I met at work for two and a half years... so pick the good ones?
Or I guess just don't pick with your baser intentions.
from The Office episode entitled "Business School." (Season 3, Episode 16)
No Hulu or YouTube clips available, my apologies.
"The harder you work, the luckier you get. You'd better believe I'm the luckiest person in the office."~My dad.
"If you ever question whether or not your current career is right for you, look to where you think the career will wind up. If you don't like it, identify where you think you no longer would find your career interesting. But don't forget to identify what skills/experiences you can gain along the way." ~ Homeless man
The quote at the bottom of my post is my advise to you.
But the 2 Girls 1 Cup girls were just doing their job!
These words of wisdom were told to me at the age of 18 by a wise sage on the topic of asking a girl out. However, they ring true for many situations life may throw at you. The main theme is: don't be a pussy and worry about striking out. If you want something, go for it.
You can clean it up a bit if need be.
"but remember ...a job is better than no job."
The head of my program after explaining what we should make and look for in a job upon graduation
want to. My parents always encouraged me to do whatever I want if it made me happy and I could live self sufficiently. Do what you want that makes you happy. If you're not happy then you won't do your best and thus you'll fail. Find something that you're truly passionate about and persue it. Some of the greatest people in this world do just that everyday. (look at Brian as an example).
It was something along the lines of "Make sure you have enough to eat before you go chasing your dreams."
Lord loves a workin' man , Don't trust whitey , See a doctor and get rid of it .... Best advice ever given !
What can I say? I'm old.
my advice is to apply for as many jobs as possible. The more you throw out there, the better your chance for landing something. The worst thing that can happen is they say no or never get back to you.
Never drink beer through a straw.
The best advice I ever got were from Spagett and Dr. Steve Brule. Look them up - sage advice indeed!
"You've got to find what you love, and that is as true for work as it is for your lovers. Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work, and the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking, and don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it, and like any great relationship it just gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking. Don't settle"
Seriously, the happiest engineers I know are the ones who aren't engineers anymore.
:) Great advice.
Of course, I decided to go to law school instead. Look elsewhere in the thread to see how that turned out.
work out for you.
I sucked balls at Engineering therefore Engineering sucks. Imma gonna be a lawyer....oh well, suck at that too. Law school sucks....Do you see where this is heading?
Logic is not your strong point.
Best advice I ever got: "Don't make excuses. You are the only reason if you don't make it and if you are lucky enough to make it, thank your family."
law school is a great place for you.
Patent lawyers are always in demand as there are such a small number of people qualified to practice patent law.
Law firms and companies are always looking for patent lawyers and the offers are substantially better than the $30,000 with no benefit offers that some places are currently offering for first year associates.
Fortunately there's quite a few IP firms here in Chicago, so I'm hopeful that I'll be able to land something good when I'm done (still have two years to go). Good luck finding a job, it's rough out there.
Well, not the sucking part, but the money and job security is pretty good.
Being an engineer would make me want to stomp a puppy, but I have two brothers who absolutely love it. You must not know many engineers.
I am an engineer and love it. I guess it all depends on what you do/where you work/how good you are, and all that, but I can't imagine doing anything else. The work is interesting enough, the money is good, the hours aren't insane, and I still wear the same free tshirts (from umich career fairs past), and shorts at work that I wore in college.
different career paths for engineers, even amongst the different disciplines.
I'm a pretty happy Civil Engineer....... except in the summer when I head off to work every morning while my wife, a teacher, does not.
You must not know any good engineers. I have a very close friend who trains astronauts to do space walks, (Extra-Vehicular Activity, in NASA parlance) does Flight Readiness Reviews for Shuttle launches, (including climbing aboard the Orbiter) and lived in Russia helping prepare for the joint US-Russia Mir missions. And, he's an aerospace engineer.
I have another former classmate who is a Naval aviator, and was a test pilot on the F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet. He was also a squadron commander in Japan.
I have still another close friend who figured out how the B-2's stealth properties worked as an undergraduate, designed engine nacelles for the Boeing 777, and now designed rocket engines.
Compared to your decision to leave engineering and go to law school, who do you think is having more fun?
I had a sexy-sounding job too: I designed jet engines. The new joint strike fighter? I did some work on that engine. My coworkers designed the engines for the F22 raptor (that was before I started working there). And you know what? It was no fun whatsoever - just a lot of long hours in poorly-lit cubicles for not nearly enough money.
I was half-joking in my first post - I really do have a lot of respect for the folks who stick with engineering. My classmates and profs at UM were the smartest group of people I've ever worked with, and I say that as a current student at a top-10 law school. That doesn't change the fact that most of the engineers I keep in touch with are no happier than I was, and not a one of them gets the pay or appreciation they deserve.
My cubicle is very well-lit and if my car would stop breaking down and if I didn't have to pay for rent, gas, groceries, cell phone bill and everything else my broke parents can't, I'd have plenty of money too!
-kerfluffled and slightly concerned intern
I will, however, go insane if I have to live in southern NY after I graduate.
Get a degree or a trained skill in something you enjoy, and something you can use practically. Accounting, finance, chemistry, biology, something that is going to be of use not only now, but 30 years from now.
.... i just turned 18 and the instructor at my school was a retired fire chief and he taught me everything i needed to know about fire fighting, so when i turned 18 i asked him what i need to do to increase my chances of getting hired. he told me that i needed to go to these departments right away, and he gave me a list of FD's that he knew would not hire an 18 year old kid with no real time experience. i got shot down at every one and i went back and asked why he did it, he told me that he wanted me to experience the feeling of failure now, so i would know what it felt like and i could move on.
dont sleep it wastes to much time
Had I listened to the advice given to me I would have played it safe and got a 9 to 5 like everyone else. I worked in construction and learned all that I could in hopes of starting my own company. After being told numerous times that I was wasting my time I started my own company and have been happy ever since.
So for me the best advice is believe in yourself. Vindication from others will come only after success, until then it is up to you.
advice I ever got was volunteer and let them see what you got. I did and it's paid quite well for me. The best advice I was ever given was reenlist and make it a career. I retired now I'm on my second career getting ready for a second retirement.
Shit. Shinola. See a doctor and get rid of it.
"It's all about who you know."
With that being said, anyone looking for a video guy?
...Avid, or other?
...Follow your passion, the money will follow.
(Unless your passion is something like groveling in mud.)
When I became a hiring manager and had to put my income and success in the hands of others I gave myself some advice:
1. Never hire anyone who went to Ohio State or is a fan of the school.
2. Never hire someone who wears pastel-colored dress shirts.
3. See Rule #1
What if a tOSU alum hired you?
Look into getting a better job.
"Avoid the clap" - Jimmy Dugan
"Let your work speak for itself."
Yes, "who you know" plays a big role in one's career as well. But typically that's only good for getting the job, not succeeding at it. Eventually you will be judged on what you produce, and almost all charlatans get discovered eventually (see former FEMA director, governor of Illinois, etc). The people who are truly indespensible and sought-after are those who continue to produce time and time again. And that track record follows you wherever you go.
I grew up on a farm in SW Michigan, which had some never-spoken job advice.
"Work harder than the man next to you." On the farm I was the boss's kid, and the man next to me was usually hired help. If I worked harder than him, he had no room to complain. I've held a lot of jobs since then, and at every one I've made it a point to work harder than anyone else, which is easy since most people are looking to scrape by with the minimum.
"You have to know how to do everything." Farmers can't call a specialist every time something breaks. I've worked at GM, Boeing, UM Hospital, Young & Rubicam, Seagrams, State Farm, U.S. Bank and now Virginia Tech doing everything from counting paper clips in a mental institution to writing grants that bring in millions for cancer research. In every case I came in as a low level office worker, identified a need, created a better job and inserted myself into it. As Heinlein says, specialization is for insects.
If that advice was never actually spoken, why is it in quotation marks? :)
The best advice I ever recieved was, "just finish."
I'm a screen writer, so it makes sense.
It can be difficult at times to complete a script, but creating something is better than giving up, So just finish was always good advice, because I tend to be extremely critical of my own work, and I always think it sucks. So when I finish it, even if I hate it, most of time other people like it, which tends to be beneficial for my career.
If I gave up on every script I didn't like I wouldn't have a career in this business.
you don't succeed, destroy all evidence you tried.
"Sometimes you just have to say, WTF."
newspaper. It's a dinosaur, and the glacier is on its way."
Save for retirement immediately, and blow money on fun things early in life before you have a wife and kids... there are two times you can have fun in life - before you're married, and after you retire or are divorced.
this site ever existed. It is a career killer.
"Identify a role on your team that you can make your niche. Make yourself indispensable. If that role doesn't exist, make it up."
It's a lot harder to fire the guy that does something no one else on the team does.
Beer before liquor...oh wait, that wasn't it...
First the salt, then the lime...DOH!...tha't ain't it either...
"Your biggest challenge and your biggest obstacle is yourself"
"Keep your eye on the ball"
Works in just about everything, sports, life, and your career. Identify your goal and keep your eye on it
Not to be cheesy, but when I was younger my grandpa told me, “there are too many mediocre people in this world. Whatever you do, try to be the best at it.” Those words still drive me.
And then you ate him?
One thing I always hated in the military was the "just get it done" that would often come out in seemingly impossible situations. Somehow, it always got done. Now I try to stress the no excuses thing to my students at least to a certain degree.
First time I cut open a human cadaver in an undergrad physiology lab I hurled. Professor told me "Medicine may not be for you". Never took a science course again and went the law school route. Best choice I ever made. Best advice I ever received.
But I would have replied to the Prof:
" Teaching and inspiring students may not be for you".
The wisest man I ever knew once said, "Get a job, go back to school or get the hell out!"
My Dad was fed up with me after sitting around the house following dropping out of HS and gave me that advice. I chose to go to work (lobster fisherman) and did that for a couple of years before I realized what a value an education is.
I am now a Cardiologist, practicing for 4 years and couldn't be happier. Thanks Dad, and RIP.
When someone asks in an interview what you see yourself doing in five years, don't say "doing your wife".
The Big Lebowski: Are you employed, sir?
The Dude: Employed?
The Big Lebowski: You don't go out looking for a job dressed like that? On a weekday?
The Dude: Is this a... what day is this?
The Big Lebowski: Well, I do work sir, so if you don't mind...
The Dude: I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
The Big Lebowski: Your revolution is over, Mr. Lebowski. Condolences. The bums lost. My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?
[the Dude walks out and shuts the door]
The Big Lebowski: The bums will always lose!
Brandt: How was your meeting, Mr. Lebowski?
The Dude: Okay. The old man told me to take any rug in the house.
still waiting for some.
Don't use your work computer for personal matters like blogging.
Don't take advice from internet posters.
You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. -Wayne Gretzky
"Keep your family and your business completely separated.", Notorious B.I.G.
On a serious note, and this may have been mentioned above already, but my parents ALWAYS stressed....
"Never work hard to please other people, that won't last, work hard to please yourself."
I'm 4 years into my career and that advice has gone a long ways. If you expect more of yourself than anyone you work for/with then you'll never have anything to worry about and you'll always deliver.
Shit in one hand and dream in the other and see which one fills up first.
This thread got a lot of responses, and quickly...
Don't find your hunny where you make your money.