Sad to hear about this in your family and your home town.
Way OT: Hillbilly heroin
I'm originally from Fenton, Michigan and in the past few months there have been four deaths caused by heroin overdoses. One of the girls was a beautiful 17 year old that lived three houses down from me. It's truly unfortunate that heroin (and synthetic prescription forms) are becoming so openly used.
I'm originally from Pinckney, Michigan and there is a huge heroin problem. There have been around 12 overdoses over the past 3 years. It's truely sad to see an entire city going through such a problem.
I had no idea about this, but just googled it and there are big problems in my home town...scary stuff...when I went there it was just beer and weed...no one got in any real trouble...I hiope it gets better there soon.
Also from Fenton and sadly I think the recent tragedies are only the tip of the ice burg for this town.
are very different. One is perscription pain killer abuse and the other is uh, well, HEROIN.
It's all opiates dude.
oxycontin and heroin are pretty much the same thing. The only difference is one is made in a lab and one is made in some shack in Colombia
I know 3 of the deaths in Fenton started as pain killer addictions, and when pills become too expensive, or aren't readily available the switch to Herion is made. Like others said it's simply an opiate addiction, either will suffice to the addict.
Could they not come up with a better title for the show?
Seriously; it sort of belittles the subject matter. I realize it's a popular nickname for Oxycontin, but still.
really isn't representative of Portsmouth.
I have to agree. Hillbilly Heroin = prescription drugs? Don't alot of wealthy athletes and doctors become addicted to prescription drugs? I never associated it with hillbillies, but I don't really know much about it.
Rush Limbaugh was addicted to oxycontin. Damn hillbilly
I thought hillbilly heroin was crystal meth. Isn't it a rule that you have to live in manufactured housing to manufacture methamphetamines?
In my town people knocked over the methodone clinic where people try to get off the stuff (taking 4 litres of methadone)...
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1)A common slang term used to define oxycontin, a prescription sustained-release opioid-analgesic marketed by Purdue Pharma. It is comprised of the active ingredient oxycodone, and an inert filler. Available dosages range from 10-80mg. 160mg pills used to be available but were pulled from the market. It does not contain acetaminophen asPercocet, Endocet do. This makes it particularly desirable to those who wish to use it for 'off-label' purposes.
~"Hey man, I just scored some hillbilly heroin from Dave!"
~"Sweet dude, lets get fucked up!"
In the poorer parts of Applachia, the rural south and Florida there are huge numbers of low-rent pill mill pain clinics where doctors make money by cranking out oxy scripts to anyone who comes through the door. Oxycontin is a time release pill but you can easily get around that by crushing the pill and snorting or injecting it like herion.
Im from Youngstown,Ohio and there are zombies walking the streets at night ... NO, im for real serious ... ZOMBIES !
Zombies don't scare me. All I need is a good chainsaw.
Looks like somebody didn't read The Zombie Survival Guide. Chainsaws need gas and are loud enough to ring the zombie dinner bell for miles. Remember, "blades don't need reloading."
but when you're the only human left alive on Mars base with a bunch of mutants and evil demons blocking your way out, that chainsaw looks mightly tempting.
Very true, but we both know when you finally run into that cyber demon, that chainsaw may as well be a plastic spork!
This caught me offguard. I heard Hillbilly Heroin and thought NASCAR. This was far more depressing. I hope your family and town find a way to get well. Hang in there....
That is very sad. I am thankful when I get depressed listening to the "news" , that I have my sports outlet, as well as the activities I like to do to sometimes put distance between myself and whatever the dailey downer may be.
Some people are not "hobby" or "sports" types, and I wonder if that affects their ability to cope with the constant barrage life throws at us.
Watched the first 10 minutes of that video and it's absolutely sickening. How these doctors are able to keep their licenses is beyond me. These doctors are terrible people who are killing for a living basically. For what? Prescription drug abuse is by far the worst drug problem we have in this country.
I would put my vote in for Meth as the worst drug problem in the country. Far beyond anything else. Prescription drugs are a huge deal too, and very sad.
Sorry to belittle the content of this thread, but your profile picture made me laugh.
I was never able to take Russell Crowe seriously after that South Park because everytime I see him I have to say "OYYYY!!!" to myself.
UND Sioux sweatshirt sighting at 32 minutes in.
No surprise there.
For four years working at the newspaper (sports side). I remember our news side had meth lab bust stories like every few weeks. Oxy, though, I don't think we had too many stories about that.
NJIH, I'm sorry about your family issues. I'll certainly be tuning in tomorrow.
Was your friend named Elden?
And I was SE for two years, so I know.
Therapy has shown to be very effective for the treatment of Opioid and opiate addiction.
I'm not about blaming the addicted person but if you notice the young man is saying what the doctor can do to stop selling him drugs. He says he stays clean for a while but he's not followiing up with his discharge plans. 6 programs and 15 detox episodes, he is not working a program of recovery. he's just lowering his tolerance after each treatment program. . To get clean and sober he will have to be willing to go to any lenghts, forsaking "friends" associates changing people places and things for the sake of recovery.
Suboxone is only part of the therapy. A person has to be willing and able to stop and stay stopped. They have to be willing and able to attend counseling sessions, attend NA meetings, get a spnsor and work a 12 step program of recovery with their sponsor. The last thing an addictted person wants to hear is that once addicted a person is addicted for life.
I want to watch this special to see if they senationalize ths addiction or if it offers real clinical information.
callously speaks to the region of the country where this epiemic has it's first sensational origins. The first senationalized news accounts of people doctor shopping and dying from overdoses and pain managment clinics poping up came from the Appalachian region
namely West Virginia, parts of Ohio, Kentucky, extreme Northern Alabama, and parts of eastern Tenn
I just watch I could watch something on TV...anything...without being bombarded by slick, sinister, clever button-pushing commercials telling me why I need a drug.
For serious. If I watch TV for an hour, I think I have about 7 psychological issues that may be chemical imbalances and should probably see a doctor who will write me a prescription for 17 drugs that will turn me into an emotionless lump of flesh.
Painkillers are the scariest shit.
If you want to read a great book about overcoming that addiction as well as warm Brian Cook's broken heart, might I suggest Infinite Jest.
Also be prepared to give an entire summer to it, and an entire fall to trying to figure out what the hell it is you just read.
I ended up killing off the last half of that book in a few days (it was between college and job) because if I didn't, it would drive me crazy.
My wife was treating a patient who had previously broken her arm several weeks ago. The woman came into the hospital trying to get more pain meds but was refused. The patient stepped out to go smoke and used the curb to rebreak her arm. Desparate act of a highly addicted, desparate woman.
Small world. I grew up in Scioto county too in Lucasville (in the last year I have moved a couple counties north to Chillicothe). It saddens me that the drug problem has gotten so bad in the area. I am very anxious to see the show tonight. Thanks for the reminder.
Wow my childhood home was on Lincoln Lane, a small road off of Thomas Hollow and I graduated from Valley.
Looks like one of the kingpins is going down at least.
I really hope Portsmouth can recover from this soon. It's a shame to see such a historic town in this type of situation. Most are probably unaware that the Detroit Lions originated from Spartan Stadium in Portsmouth and were formerly known as the Portsmouth Spartans.
I have had many close friends who have thrown their lives away on this addiction. They have been in and out of rehab, sobered up and went back to it again. Marriages have been ruined as well as parent's hearts broken, all due to pain killers.
From what I have seen, many of them would have been addicted to just about any drug they tried out, the accessibility of these drugs is what was more of the draw towards these drugs in particular. Rehab will get you off pills temporarily but a lifestyle change is the only thing to keep you off of them for good. This means no drugs and especially no alcohol which all seems to lead to a slip up.
On a final note, the irony of Suboxone which is given to block the opiates, is also addictive! There is a saying that the difference between a petty thief and a real crook is that a thief wears a mask and a crook wears a suit. I think this applies here as well.
"On a final note, the irony of Suboxone which is given to block the opiates, is also addictive!"
you may be confusing methadone with suboxone, that statement contradicts itself.
for clarifiation is not addictive. It is an angonist in other words it stops the person from getting high if the ingest opioids or opiates. The phenmenon you may witness is that some addicted persons may hoard or seek suboxone in absence of opioids or opiates because it does also stop withdrawals which for an addict is not a high but a momentary relief of the withdrawal symptoms they seek to avoid. Therefore it simply looks like they are addictive that is why they are the now preferred method of Detox vs Methadone which is indeed addictive.
Suboxone is indeed addictive. I have actually had buddies on this for years and upon googling have learned it is indeed addictive. Biprenorphine is the active ingredient and is only a partial agonist. The withdrawal symptoms, though milder,do last longer when coming off of it. Those who take it who do not taper down properly have reported having a pretty bad withdrawal.
and the reluctance, in some quarters, to control their activities.
Good thing weed is still illegal. That stuff is sooo dangerous!
while pill mills still openly operate in Florida and other states.
The title of the show makes no sense. There's prescription drug abuse everywhere. It's not just in rural areas. I specifically remember a series of articles in the Boston Globe a couple years ago about how the South Shore of Massachusetts has been particularly hard hit by this epidemic.
Sorry about your town and I wish you and your family the best. I've had to deal with an ex girlfriend that got caught up in all sorts of drugs and I got her back on her feet and got her a job and everything. I also repaired her relationship with her family and all. After all of that she played me and decided that we needed to be friends. Drugs can really screw your life over and the best thing to do is get help. So best of luck with your family and I wish you the best.
I'm watching the show. Shit is crazy.