User "Y-Town Go Blue" posted this in the comments of the presser notes, and I thought I'd post it to the board. I'm going to conclude that the old staff wants him more than the new staff.
Vinopal to Pitt
Wow-very interesting..I guess it wasn't exactly family issues. I feel bad for him, from following him on twitter it seemed like he loved Michigan. Can't blame the kid for leaving if he thought he would find more time to play elsewhere. Hopefully Mattison (who I fully trust) has a starter in his place.
Reports were that he was transferring closer to home due to family issues. Pitt is a little over an hour away. Michigan is 3.5 hours. Let's not jump to conclusions.
Obviously my geography skills are awful. For some reason I assumed home was Youngstown State, but obviously am happy he can play at another D-1
Youngstown, OH is about an hour away from Pittsburgh.
FWIW, I commuted over an hour to school for over a semester. It's not that bad, especially if you can bulk your classes up on one or two days.
It sounded pretty certain he was transfering for family reasons.It sounded like he preferred to stay at U of M, but needed to be closer to home, which Pitt is MUCH closer to his home. It's nice for him that most of the staff ended up there so he still has a top notch program to go to,but I do not believe he transfered for his position coach or whoever.
So while that hardly absolves him of football duties, it's less pressure than having to play, so more time to take care of family issues.
At least he's landing on his feet, and not losing his chance to play football because of the family problems.
And it's ok to use the scholarship this February, because we don't have to hold it for him.
WHY IS HOKE RUNNING OUR PLAYERS AWAY! SURELY THE MSM WILL BE ALL OVER US FOR THIS
With fake neg-points for this. Your first fake +1 was from me. And it has absolutely nothing to do with Brady Hoke, but rather with the press. Just as you say.
I thought the Vinopal signing was interesting because, while any coach knows that he's supposed to sign up all the four- and five-stars he can, every coach also knows that you won't get all superstars, and that you need to make gut-calls on young guys with character, who may overachieve, and may bring a work ethic and a good influence to the rest of the team. I really wanted Vinopal and Dileo and few others to reach the heights in four-year Michigan careers, as markers of Rich Rodriguez's judgment of young men.
my comment was a sarcasm to make light of the msm's double standard right?
I got it. I thought I said so. Emphasized by the part where I said, "Just as you say."
For believing everyone is stupider than you.
Stop over-analyzing everything. Especially when you don't even understand what you're responding to.
The sarcasm in his post is about as much a mystery to the board as your feelings toward the media.
I almost always upvote Section 1. Keep fighting the good fight, counselor. I agree with a large part of what he says, and admire his Quixotic stance on the issue. He has at least one fan on this board. No /s.
Your book sucks.
I agree with a lot of what he says, but at a certain point you have to let things go. If you and your girlfriend break up for a bad reason, you can't keep crying about it forever even if you were in the right. It is time to move on.
Section 1 hasn't said anything to be ashamed about. He's expressing an opinion, so injecting the concept of "shame" is beside the point.
As for "aggrandize," all he said in this statement was that he regrets the fact that Vinopal won't be around for four years as a gauge of RR's judgement. I feel the same way myself. That's hardly "aggrandizing." Calling RR "the best coach in college football" would be aggrandizement. Calling RR "the greatest offensive mind in the last half-century of college football" would be aggrandizement. Calling Mike Barwis "the best S&C coach in college football, bar none" would be aggrandizement.
With respect to your dismissive, condescending description of language about a coach's assessment of the character of young men as "highfalutin," I guess you also found such language used by Bo Schembechler and Lloyd Carr similarly "highfalutin," since they talked about such things all the time.
Well, that was quick. Best of luck to Mr. Vinopal, and hopefully his family issues get squared away soon.
I wish him well at Pitt, that is unless we play them in the future. I'm happy that he is still able to pursue football while he deals with his family issues.
I just hope you don't have to wear that nike pro combat helmet with a steel beam-shaped stripe next year.
He may also get the chance to eventually play in the same defensive backfield with the best set of dreads from the class of 2011 in Roderick Ryles.
Good luck at Pitt, Ray. I'll miss those stumpy legs.
Gibson is still screwing with our defense even after he left.
Seems like a good fit for big play Ray. He will be familiar with the coaching staff and is closer to home. Sounds like a good deal.
Thanks for posting this, if you can't tell I'm from Youngstown and would have liked to see him go to YSU, but whatever works for him is best. Good luck to him at Pitt.
Sorry to hear you are from Ohio. Ray will be fine, good luck to you though.
Thanks for the condolences. Not just Ohio, but Youngstown. I feel it makes me a stronger person. Maybe. Probably not.
Look on the bright side, you will probably be getting Tressel back pretty soon.
They send me invitations to a "family reunion" about every other year -- in Youngstown at some picnic park. Only thing is, while I share the same last name, I've never met any of those yokels, don't plan to and for sure don't have anything in common with them. I was particularly turned off that one of the invitation's selling points was that "pop" would be served. I don't do pop parties. (They do serve alcohol in Y-Town, don't they?)
Good luck to Ray, and thanks for the, um, int-fumble memory.
I'll always remember him for his great 4th down stop in the Illinois game. Good luck
I'll always remember him for getting sniped by a kitten.
Then again, that game was epic because of the three OT's. He makes that tackle, and maybe we don't get them.
Well crafted, sir. +1
Mikeal LeShore runs 4.6 at the combine. Judging from Vinopal's catch up speed, he probably runs 4.5 and maybe surprisingly at 4.4. Then again, it's easier to run faster if you have to chase someone from behind.
...that it's Jason Ford running the ball, not Leshoure.
HOpefully this really is for family issues. Good luck Ray.
Just to be clear, you are hoping he has family issues?
Man, I was hoping for a chance he'd be back if the family issues get resolved, if they're resolvable family issues. I guess this means he's gone for good. I understand the reasoning, but it's a bummer nonetheless.
Good luck Ray, unless of course you play us.
Also good luck to all the free-safeties on our team, of which there are few.
I was also really hoping that Vinopal would take a year off, and hopefully come back. While I'm happy that he's found a place at Pitt, I'm selfishly disappointed about the fact that we won't see him don the Maize and Blue again. C'est la vie.
Good luck Vinopal!
Good Luck Mr Vinapol, hope things work out for the best.
Without naming every safety on the roster, does anyone have a guess who our starter will be at FS this fall?
Woolfolk. Only guy on the roster who's actually shown he can be a deep safety.
Hoke has previously said that he expects Woolfolk to stay at corner.
Marvin Robinson comes to mind. Maybe Carvin Johnson or Josh Furman. They are all pretty athletic. Hopefully they can grasp the defensive quickly.
Hmm...I've got an idea. Let's take a slow-ish wide receiver and make him our starting free safety...
I've got it!
Jeremy Jackson will be your starting FS in 2011.
I wonder if Christian might eventually end up there. I'm not sure if corner is his best position.
I'll say this again:
Cullen Christian and Carvin Johnson are both practicing at the free safety position this spring. Cullen confirmed it himself about a month ago.
The new staff really wants him in the line up. /s
Does not compute.
Out of his 33 tackles, 55.5 of them were TFL. WOAH.
Is it a violation of rules for a school to talk to a player when he is enrolled (or under scholarship, not sure which) at a different school. Assuming this didn't happen, given the quick turn around, it seems like maybe there was some delay in getting this news out. Either that, or he told MI, immediately called Pitt and they immediately accepted him.
Helps that some of his former coaches are there. And living so close he probably has seen the campus.
Glad he has a chance to, even if it's somewhere else.
Ray, we hardly knew ya!
Best of luck to him and his family.
were just a kinder gentler "family" values reason...
But seriously, good luck to the kid. Hope he finds what is best for him. Transfers happen.
Kid gave more to UM than a certain five star from Massilon.
This is a sad day for Jordan Kovacs. I hate it when brothers get separated like this.
He's got jokes now too! I look forward to watching Magnus progress this off season...
Who would have figured the family he was talking about were Tony Gibson, Cal Magee and Tony Dews?
Obviously Pitt's the nearest D-I school to Youngstown, so really he's lucky his old position coach and other familiar faces were close to home.
I wish them all success.
The kid had moxie.
Glad he can continue to chase his D-1 dreams rather than slum it at Youngstown State, but it will be a real bummer to watch him turn into "typical Iowa/Wisconsin gritty, heady safety" as a senior in another team's uni.
and hard work. Hope all goes well for him in Pitt and his family as well.
I am glad I don't live in a dong forest.