Vincent Smith Talking about Clowney Hit

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January 15th, 2013 at 5:26 PM
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Vincent Smith Talking about Clowney Hit

I know we all tired quickly of the replay of Clowney's hit on Vincent Smith.  One of the guys at WolverineNation did a short article about Smith's perspective on the hit. 

A good read and the best part of the article is how pissed Smith's older brother got at the endless replays for the next two weeks (can't say I blame him!).  "Smith's older brother, Jaworski Bowie, actually took the impact of the hit harder. Bowie texted his younger brother, perturbed the hit was being shown ad nauseam.  It reached the point where Smith told his brother to stop. Smith wasn't bothered by it, so why should his brother be? Besides, Smith said, he has been hit harder."

Smith's feeling on the hit reminds me of Jim Carey's great line in Liar, Liar,  "I've had better."

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8846588/vincent-smith-michigan-wolverines-talks-hit-jadeveon-clowney-south-carolina-gamecocks

    

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January 15th, 2013 at 5:37 PM | The whole thing that's (Score:5 Normal)
Michael
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The whole thing that's frustrating about THE HIT (OMG) is that it wasn't really the result of anything impressive that Clowney did. There was a communication error at the line where Kwitiakowski thought he and Lewan were to combo block the guy but instead it was supposed to be just him (an arguably ill-advised assignment).

So Clowney was essentially unblocked due to a missed assignment and, being large and strong, put a big hit on a guy in the backfield who had just received the handoff. Sure it looked gnarly, but it's not at all a great play by Clowney's part.

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January 15th, 2013 at 5:41 PM | Uh, Clowney laid a (Score:5 Normal)
State Street
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Uh, Clowney laid a safety-on-WR in open field-esque hit on a RB after taking like three steps.  That was pretty impressive.

January 15th, 2013 at 5:58 PM | Not the same at all.  Smith (Score:4 Normal)
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Not the same at all.  Smith was in the process of receiving the handoff, so he had absolutely no chance to attempt to avoid the hit.  The quickness with which Clowney got there, on the other hand, was impressive (blocked or unblocked).

January 15th, 2013 at 8:00 PM | I know o one wants to blame (Score:-1 Flamebait)
January 15th, 2013 at 8:53 PM | Two things (Score:5 Normal)
BiSB
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1) It was a communication error, in which he made a line call that the TE didn't hear. It isn't a matter of "blame," but a question of whose assignment Clowney was.

2) Making allegations of the nature you made is frowned upon. Also, it's douchey.

I am being Twitters

January 15th, 2013 at 5:58 PM | While it was a communication error (Score:3 Normal)
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your POV is very homer here. The speed at which Clowney burst into the backfield was very impressive, and actually the hit was impressive as well, not to mention the awareness to actually pick up the fumble. Most great plays arise because of a mistake by the other team. And while it wasn't a fact of Clowney going all T2 on Smith, it was still a nice play and a big hit.

I know a lot of Michigan fans are tired of seeing it (me too), but it was a very nice play by Clowney and it is an awesome play to any non-Michigan fan because Clowney pretty much looks like a badass. And if it was against OSU or ND or State I think almost every poster here would agree.

6/11/13 - breakdownsports.blogspot.com - Inside Michigan's Playbook Makes Them Pay

January 15th, 2013 at 6:14 PM | I understand that and, if you (Score:2 Normal)
Michael
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I understand that and, if you re-read my post, I acknowledge that it takes an impressive athlete to deliver a hit like that. It was a good play, but that doesn't crack the top 100 plays he's made if I'm an NFL scout.

If you go to any message board (and even talking heads on radio/TV) other than this one the narrative is that he straight up beat Lewan and that is what separates us mgoblogerati as football enthusiasts from the ignorant masses. I mean people are taking out ad space about it, for crying out loud.

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January 15th, 2013 at 7:19 PM | If you like violence for violence's sake alone, your POV (Score:1)
MGlobules
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makes sense. All the other caveats still hold, though: unblocked and hitting a tiny guy during the exchange. It also has context, context that gets ignored in the rush to celebrate the hit, and that is that Lewan was holding Clowney to a standstill. 

January 15th, 2013 at 11:19 PM | Tired of it (Score:1)
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It was a good play, but what made so many people see it as "great" was that fact that it was very showy and happened at a crucial time in the game.  

Sorry to be a "homer," but that play looked a lot better than it actually was.  Worse yet, the media decided to turn Clowney into God for a couple of weeks.  I hope they don't play this hit for as many years as they did Stewart to Westbrook, but I have a feeling that they might play it for even longer.

 

 

 

 

January 15th, 2013 at 11:32 PM | I'm with (Score:2 Normal)
Mike420GoBlue
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Homer Simpson here. I was unblocked on a play in high school football, destroyed the qb, it wasn't a good play by me. I wasn't a good player, just going full speed and no one blocked me.

January 15th, 2013 at 6:20 PM | The most impressive thing to (Score:1)
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The most impressive thing to me was how low Clowney was on impact.  If he had been as high as you'd imagine a 6'6" guy would be when tackling a runner almost a foot shorter, he just would have swallowed him and not had nearly the jarring effect that caused Vincent to lose the ball.

January 15th, 2013 at 8:42 PM | Ah, but Vincent had gotten (Score:3 Normal)
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Ah, but Vincent had gotten low himself earlier in the game when he picked up Clowney pass rushing and planted his facemask in Clowney's crotch. Of course, Vincent IS low; it wasn't an intentional dong-headbutt, but the physics of a fearless 5-6 mountain goat stopping a 6-7 ICBM dead in its tracks.

Clowney was down for the count and had to come out for a play or two, but he reportedly did mention to Vince that he was going to exact vengeance. Too bad a blocking screwup gave him the perfect opportunity. And really too bad that the tough-as-nails Vincent Smith will be remembered primarily for a hit he took instead of the many he delivered.

January 16th, 2013 at 7:59 AM | So that makes Vincent (Score:1)
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an SM3 anti ballastic missle launched from an Aegis Cruiser or Destroyer? I like it.

January 15th, 2013 at 5:38 PM | I'm just glad this will be brought up over and over again (Score:5 Normal)
Bocheezu
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After all, the Kordel Stewart Play and The Horror has really died off the past couple years; I really missed having college promos, car commercials, top 10s, and GREATEST ___ EVER feature something Michigan-related in a bad way.

The Miami people have it made; that Flutie/Phelan play will just never go away

January 15th, 2013 at 7:19 PM | To be fair, Woodson's (Score:2)
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To be fair, Woodson's interception (I don't have to tell you which one) got a ton of airplay the rest of that season and beyond.  

January 15th, 2013 at 5:47 PM | Clowney outweighs Smith by (Score:3 Insightful)
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Clowney outweighs Smith by nearly 100 pounds.  I would take the Taylor hit against the PSU TE in '97 as much more devestating of a hit.  Sick and tired of the replays of Smith.  V Smith is a tough kid, he had no shot.

January 15th, 2013 at 6:04 PM | Only problem with the Taylor hit is... (Score:2 Normal)
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...he couldn't play the game again.  I don't mind the hit, I mind the final score of the game.

January 15th, 2013 at 6:13 PM | That was a much more (Score:2)
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That was a much more impressive hit by Taylor.  That is all. 

January 15th, 2013 at 6:11 PM | Yeah, i was telling some (Score:3 Normal)
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Yeah, i was telling some friends that hit was good and all but that it wasn't the most viscious i'd ever seen.  I cite that example, but i feel like i'm coming off as a "hater."  

Touchdown Michigan!

January 16th, 2013 at 4:58 AM | Everyone knows this is the greatest hit ever. (Score:1)
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Campaign manager--Hoke 2012.

January 15th, 2013 at 5:49 PM | Why don't they play (Score:2 Normal)
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the Tressel to Pryor cash handoff replay adnauseam?

BILG

January 15th, 2013 at 5:55 PM | GOOD TO HEAR SMITTY IS OK!!! (Score:2 Normal)
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GOOD TO HEAR SMITTY IS OK!!! DO YOUR THING AND IGNORE THESE HATERS!

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January 15th, 2013 at 5:51 PM | Can someone who knows the (Score:2)
biakabutuka exp...
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Can someone who knows the rules explain how a helmet can do what Smith's did without there being illegal helmet to helmet contact? I keep getting joke answers but it's a serious question!

January 15th, 2013 at 5:57 PM | I don't think that's a rule in college (Score:2)
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I don't think I've heard that called in cfb. Plus, I do believe Clowney got him under the chin. It seems more likely that Vincent didn't have his helmet on properly

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January 15th, 2013 at 9:42 PM | You don't think they call (Score:2)
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You don't think they call that in cfb? You mean you don't remember the 2006 OSU game?

January 16th, 2013 at 1:54 PM | I almost literally don't (Score:2)
bluetell
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ever since the clock hit 0:00 I have not watched a single highlight of that game

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January 15th, 2013 at 5:59 PM | Helmet to helmet contact (Score:2 Normal)
IndyBlue
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Helmet to helmet contact against a RB isn't illegal.  It is, on the other hand, not allowed against defenseless receivers and quarterbacks.  Keep in mind spearing is illegal, but never called and not applicable here.

January 15th, 2013 at 9:43 PM | Sounds legit. Thanks for the (Score:2)
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Sounds legit. Thanks for the clarification.

January 15th, 2013 at 10:40 PM | Looking for more clarification here (Score:1)
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So, as I understand it, when a QB scrambles out of the pocket, he becomes a RB.  Wouldn't that call in the 2006 OSU game then be even more ridiculous than it already was?

January 16th, 2013 at 7:54 AM | That was at the dawn of run spread (Score:1)
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So the focus was still on protecting pocket passers. Now it is perfectly OK to wrench the head off a running QB in the pile, much less hit him like a RB in the open field.

That penalty doesn't get called in today's perspective.

January 15th, 2013 at 5:55 PM | Vincent (Score:2)
Geary_maize
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Vincent Smith handled it a lot better than I would have. Respect.

January 15th, 2013 at 6:19 PM | Handled it better than I would have too (Score:3 Normal)
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Only because I would still be in a coma.

Smith is very tough back.

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January 15th, 2013 at 5:57 PM | I believe Smith when he says it isn't the hardest he's been hit (Score:4 Normal)
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A lot of times the really big looking hits aren't necessarily the hardest hits. Smith saw it coming as well, so he was able to brace himself a bit. The hit, while it looks bone crushing, was really only a good hit. It was a really big hit for a guy coming off of the D-line, but I'm sure LBs and safeties, not to mention special teams players, have all hit Smith harder.

6/11/13 - breakdownsports.blogspot.com - Inside Michigan's Playbook Makes Them Pay

January 15th, 2013 at 5:59 PM | I played hockey (Score:1)
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So I'd imagine a hit like that is very similar in the fact that it doesn't hurt neither player.

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January 15th, 2013 at 6:00 PM | Either** (Score:1)
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More or less just transferring of momentum. The most impressive part for me was Clowneys presence of mind to grab the football knowing the whistle hadnt blown yet.

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January 15th, 2013 at 6:07 PM | Smith "talking" about the hit is impressive. Actually, being (Score:3 Underrated)
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able to eat solid food -- or drink from a straw -- after a hit like that is impressive.  Respect Part II..

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January 15th, 2013 at 6:23 PM | I think when Denard got him (Score:2)
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I think when Denard got him murdered against Purdue this year was a harder hit. His helmet came off which makes ESPN and every other highlight show have a massive boner.

January 15th, 2013 at 6:30 PM | I prefer this (Score:1)
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http://youtu.be/KsG5qZsORLM

January 15th, 2013 at 7:37 PM | (No subject) (Score:4 Normal)
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January 15th, 2013 at 6:58 PM | The  most interesting part of (Score:5 Normal)
GoBlueGB
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The  most interesting part of the article to me is when Smith says that he figured before the play that he would get hit in the backfield.  What can of play is that, when the RB is expecting to get hit before the line of scrimage!?

January 15th, 2013 at 7:59 PM | buddy (Score:2)
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i don't know who marked this as flamebait, but i had the same reaction. what kind of play is it where the RB thinks that before it even gets going?

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January 16th, 2013 at 7:49 AM | Vincent Smith was probably reading (Score:1)
maizenbluenc
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as if he were going to block and saw what was coming (there is a reason he is such a good blocker and it is not his size). SC won the RPS on that play and it was hosed before the snap.

January 15th, 2013 at 7:00 PM | It was a good hit, but (Score:1)
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put any good defensive player in a blitz (Say, Jake Ryan), have him unblocked and let him hit a back who is a foot shorter and 100 pounds lighter, and oh yeah, have him stand straight up, in place (like he was waiting for a hand off, or something) and you will get a similar result. I'm not saying Clowney isn't a great player, but, under the above mentioned circumstances, many players would have delivered the same result.

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January 15th, 2013 at 7:02 PM | I can't believe ESPN would (Score:1 Overrated)
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I can't believe ESPN would even do a story on it. Then again they are whores who will write about anything especially if its something an SEC team did.

January 15th, 2013 at 7:13 PM | I first thought whoever this (Score:1 Overrated)
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I first thought whoever this is making up username after username going after Justingoblue and his woman was annoying at first but now it is just plain funny. I laugh at every one of these posts.

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January 15th, 2013 at 7:19 PM | Sorry this post makes no (Score:2)
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Sorry this post makes no sense online. Posted from the android app in reply to a user who is now in Bolivia.

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January 15th, 2013 at 7:08 PM | Edit (Score:1)
champswest
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Double post, sorry.

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January 15th, 2013 at 7:16 PM | Graham's hit on Winston (Score:2 Normal)
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was as good or better because he actually beat a man trying to block him and it prevented a team from scoring on the goal line.  If Winton's helmet pops off its the same hit without a fumble.

January 15th, 2013 at 7:30 PM | Bullet point approach! THE (Score:2)
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Bullet point approach!

THE NEGATIVES
- It was a blown assignment & easy pickings for the defender
- The RB is tiny & standing upright with little momentum

THE POSITIVES
- The defender got in fast
- The defender caused a fumble & recovered it
- Helmet asplosion

So basically, it was a golden opportunity for any defender, but Clowney made more of it than most others would have.

January 15th, 2013 at 7:37 PM | As hard as a hit as it was, I (Score:1)
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As hard as a hit as it was, I think it shows Smith's toughness when as soon as his back hit the ground he was grabbing for the ball that he fumbled. Not for a second was he disoriented from the hit.

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