If you haven't heard Coach Rod's quote mentioning Vince Lombardi you will...
My question is this - Does he plan on saying this or is this just off the cuff? I don't know man. I just don't know
national champs baby
Vince Lombardi
October 18th, 2010 at 2:03 PM
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Vince Lombardi
October 18th, 2010 at 2:04 PM | 
here is the quote from ann arbor.com
here is the quote from ann arbor.com
October 18th, 2010 at 2:09 PM |
what am i missing?
what am i missing?
did Vince Lombardi trample a member of the media? is this a RR "too soon" comment?
October 18th, 2010 at 2:14 PM |
Did he really say that?
Did he really say that?
Uhg. That is such a bad thing to say on so many levels. Who is that supposed to be directed at. The players? Greg Robinson? Himself? Who is in charge of fixing them, then?
Once again, I will say it, I just don't know.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:17 PM |
Who's in charge of fixing them?
Who's in charge of fixing them?
Mr. Panasonic, Father Time, Greg Robinson and Tony Gibson
two of those four are unavailable. name them for a prize!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:17 PM |
Father Time
Father Time
I think Father Time might be most effective here. Are you sure he's unavailable? If so, maybe Mother Nature can help?
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
October 18th, 2010 at 2:14 PM |
I think he's trying to take the heat off Gerg
I think he's trying to take the heat off Gerg
Maybe he realizes the heat is more on Gerg than on him. If the offense continues to put up 500+ yards of offense the rest of the year, then the part of him being an offensive genius gets validated. But if we're losing these games because of our D, then it may be easier for the administration to make Gerg a scapegoat.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:18 PM |
If that's what he means, then
If that's what he means, then
If that's what he means, then he should STFU. RR is headcoach of the team--not HC of the offense. Ultimately, he's the man--for better or worse. If the defense has gotten so bad it can't be fixed, it was HIS job not to let it get that way. I don't care if the offense is rolling up 1,000 yards/game.
Honk, honk, honk. Meeeechigan scores!!!!!!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:16 PM |
"however, should he really be
"however, should he really be
"however, should he really be saying this to the media?"
No.
My other ride is a MSU psych major.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:15 PM |
I knew Vince Lombardi, I seved with Vince Lombardi and
I knew Vince Lombardi, I seved with Vince Lombardi and
Sir, Greg Robinson is no Vince Lombardi
October 18th, 2010 at 2:06 PM |
link
link
http://www.twitter.com/nicoleauerbach
Tai Streets is still open...
October 18th, 2010 at 2:10 PM |
UNACCEPTABLE
UNACCEPTABLE
LLOYD CARR WOULDVE ONLY BROUGHT IN VINCE LOMBARDI AS A LINEBACKERS COACH WHEN HE WAS THEIR. WE DEMAND EXCELENCE... YOUR DAMN RIGHT. RR HAS TO GO BACK GO BLUE
October 18th, 2010 at 2:14 PM |
OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:20 PM |
Brick Tamland
Brick Tamland
"LOUD NOISES!"
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
October 18th, 2010 at 5:59 PM |
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT
October 18th, 2010 at 2:15 PM |
Funny
Funny
how anybody else says this and it's, 'yeah, no kidding,' but having come out of Rich Rod's mouth it somehow becomes inappropriate, insensitive, whatever. Also, Vince made his bones as an Offensive Coordinator for the Giants before his Packer days, so Rodriguez probably isn't going out on much of a limb there. Maybe he should've just stood up there with grumpy glares and said "tremendous" repeatedly because apparently that's a quicker route to media respect around here.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:19 PM |
rabble rabble he should know
rabble rabble he should know
rabble rabble he should know Lombardi was an offensive guy! rabble rabble I'm threatened by his accent derp derp derp
I know from experience dude. If you know what I mean.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:25 PM |
good stuff
good stuff
I think we'd all agree he'd be a lot better off without the obligatory press conferences.
Tai Streets is still open...
October 18th, 2010 at 2:27 PM |
The level of troll in your
The level of troll in your
The level of troll in your comments is overpowering. You can't think you're fooling anyone with that username, can you? Go away, Sparty!
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I love a hoppy ending!
October 18th, 2010 at 2:42 PM |
"AT LEAST WE'RE FUN TO WATCH"
"AT LEAST WE'RE FUN TO WATCH"
Actually, that was a direct quote from Rich Rod.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:17 PM |
the MSU trolling on here
the MSU trolling on here
is getting ridiculous
October 18th, 2010 at 2:26 PM |
What do you mean "you
What do you mean "you
What do you mean "you people?" 
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I know from experience dude. If you know what I mean.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:31 PM |
What do YOU mean "You People"?
What do YOU mean "You People"?
"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"
October 18th, 2010 at 2:35 PM |
HUH?!
HUH?!
HUH?!
I know from experience dude. If you know what I mean.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:42 PM |
The F#$%?
The F#$%?
"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"
October 18th, 2010 at 2:19 PM |
I don't like it
I don't like it
I think it does show that the criticism is getting to him. I think we can all agree that Dave Brandon is one hell of a leader and we all want him as our AD. When Brandon came in, he took blame and responsibility for the NCAA violations. Thats what a leader does, he takes responsibility for success and failure, even if its not his fault.
I think this gives the wrong impression that RR doesn't feel he has control over the D getting better. I don't know, thats just my opinion, I'm sure everyone has their own.
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
October 18th, 2010 at 4:40 PM |
I think it might just be a case of
I think it might just be a case of
Him trying to make it clear that the # 1 problem with the defense is the youth. They are young. I am personally starting to think otherwise but I am far from a football coach and I dont plan to be. I will say his comment "atleast we're fun to watch", he maybe should have thought twice about saying that because fact of the matter, this team has not been fun to watch for the most part. Sure we have Denard running for school records, but we also have offenses like Bowling Green having record days against our defense. Is that supposed to be fun to watch?
I hope he gets another year, I'm not calling for his head. It would be less surprising to me at this point if he does get shown the door.
GRwolverine73
October 18th, 2010 at 2:23 PM |
How many times can you say the same thing...
How many times can you say the same thing...
over and over and people not get pissed at that. At least referencing Lombardi is something different coming out of his mouth.
It has to be frustrating answering the same questions over and over when injuries, youth, inexperience, and attrition can only be overcome with time.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:24 PM |
RichRod....
RichRod....
for that comment let me go ahead and do it for you.....
My self-esteem is directly related to my MgoPoints.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:28 PM |
Blame no one, expect nothing,
Blame no one, expect nothing,
Blame no one, expect nothing, do something
Lloyd Carr once said this and got the quote from the Jets locker room, someone should relate this to RR and explain what it means. He needs to start being accountable for his failures and successes.
Oh they came to bury Michigan, but Michigan wasn't dead
October 18th, 2010 at 2:37 PM |
He handles wins and losses
He handles wins and losses
He handles wins and losses the same. He doesn't take credit for wins, but does give credit to the players and the other coaches for preparing and executing.
When Michigan loses and he hears the same questions, what else do you want him to say but the truth? The Defense is under construction. There are serious depth & experience issues, and that's what he was trying to get at. Nothing more. RELAX.
Touchdown Michigan!
October 18th, 2010 at 2:52 PM |
I agree with the depth and
I agree with the depth and
I agree with the depth and inexperience of the defense, but whose fault is that? Can we really blame Lloyd for the talent deficiency on defense. Granted Woolfolk's injury was not anyone's fault and Carr did recruit Cissoko. But this is seriously becoming an issue, the defense is not just bad; its one of the worst in the country. This is not EMU this is Michigan and the kids on defense lack the basic fundamentals, i.e. tackling and staying in their gaps/lanes,
Oh they came to bury Michigan, but Michigan wasn't dead
October 18th, 2010 at 3:33 PM |
I agree he should be held
I agree he should be held
I agree he should be held accountable; from your first post (and maybe I read into it incorrectly) but it seemed like you were suggesting he isn't "taking responsibility." But what can RR do this year to help defense? Part of it is coaching, but the other part, as you say, is recruiting. RR can get nothing but 5 star defensive prospects this year and potentially not see the benefits until 2-3 years later.
Similarly he could have solid defensive players he's recruited over the last two seasons, but it may take time to really see the benefits.
Touchdown Michigan!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:45 PM |
I think we can all agree that
I think we can all agree that
I think we can all agree that it is going to take some time. Now I am still on the RR bandwagon and unlike some fans, I want to see him successful and strive here because I think he can (look at the progression of the offense). However, it is extremely frusterating to see him stand there and make comments like that saying Vince Lombardi couldnt fix our defense. He may not be able to but RR needs to stop complaining and start doing.
Oh they came to bury Michigan, but Michigan wasn't dead
October 18th, 2010 at 4:45 PM |
Agreed. But we can also agree
Agreed. But we can also agree
that time is the last thing he has with this fanbase.
GRwolverine73
October 18th, 2010 at 2:32 PM |
I think his point is pretty
I think his point is pretty
I think his point is pretty f'ing simple, if you're not trying to actively misconstrue it.
He is simply saying that coaches cannot magically make players older or more game-experienced.
There are certain things that are endemic to our program this year, like it or not.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:34 PM |
I don't know why this makes
I don't know why this makes
I don't know why this makes me so angry, but it does.
For all of you who love to say that Lloyd Carr "threw in the towel," did he ever drop a quote like this?
October 18th, 2010 at 2:41 PM |
here we go again...
here we go again...
here we go again...
October 18th, 2010 at 2:38 PM |
i guess i don't understand
i guess i don't understand
and i legitimately want to understand why this comment upsets people. the players themselves would likely admit they made bad reads or tackled poorly. those are problems that don't magically go away no matter who coaches them. they're problems that practice and experience dissolves. i would say comments in 2008 regarding how "bad" the roster looked once he got to see it were 30x more incendiary than stating a football legend wouldn't be able to correct the errors being made.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:42 PM |
I just....
I just....
IMO......dont think it's something you say at a press conference. If any of our opponents needed anymore material for negative recruiting you can add this to it. Its just a "oh well, we're screwed and there is nothing we can do about it".
My self-esteem is directly related to my MgoPoints.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:46 PM |
Right
Right
He's the leader. His message to his young secondary should not be: I could bring in the best football coach of all time and you'd still be terrible. I fully realize this was not his intent. It's just not something you say at a press conference IMO.
Tai Streets is still open...
October 18th, 2010 at 2:52 PM |
Context.
Context.
Dude, if you ACTUALLY listened to the press conference...
There was quite a bit of time devoted to how excited the players and coaches are within the program for the great things they are building. He said he was very frustrated with these two losses, but he knows the future looks bright.
In other words...check yo'self, before you wrecke yo'self.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:03 PM |
dude
dude
I did listen to the press conference...
"There was quite a bit of time devoted to how excited the players and coaches are within the program for the great things they are building. He said he was very frustrated with these two losses, but he knows the future looks bright."
.....I never denied he said any of those things....it was a stupid comment. People say stupid things during press conferences, and this is one for Rich Rod....the sky is not falling, it was just dumb.....moving on.
In other words.....dont go chasing waterfalls, stick to the rivers and the lakes that your used too.
My self-esteem is directly related to my MgoPoints.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:44 PM |
Some people probably view it
Some people probably view it
Some people probably view it as an excuse that shouldn't need to be said in year three of his tenure. It's pretty obvious it's just another way of saying that Michigan is playing the card it's been dealt with the defense, but I can understand how some would interpret it as an excuse. (i.e. yes the defense is bad, but ultimately it's his responsibility)
October 18th, 2010 at 2:38 PM |
Seriously, are some of you Michigan fans?
Seriously, are some of you Michigan fans?
What is wrong with what he said?
"They may not love you at the time, but they will later." - Vince Lombardi
October 18th, 2010 at 3:27 PM |
Are YOU a Michigan fan?
Are YOU a Michigan fan?
By your line of reasoning, because you are okay with what Rodriguez said you are a bigger Michigan fan (or worse, those who question whether what he said should have been said are not Michigan fans)? You premise is off. I bet there are many, many alumni and fans that have been fans longer than you've been alive that question why he made that statement at a press conference. They may even question whether you are, in fact, a fan for questioning their loyalty. So there.
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:39 PM |
I'm a better fan than you
I'm a better fan than you
B/c I never question Rich Rod and I will support everything he says and does. I will never criticize him or accept when others do. I am a real Michigan fan. You're obviously not.
/s
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
October 19th, 2010 at 9:33 AM |
Who Are You?
Who Are You?
RR is the Coach of this Michigan football team. He is at practice EVERYDAY. He sees what happens, day in, day out. He, unlike you, is entitled to state the condition of his team. No "real fan" continually questions the Coach. No "real fan" continually boos the players, on their home field. You think these 18, 19, 20 year old players want to fail? Do you boo the local High School team because you've been a fan LONGER? Have you ever heard of the word "support"? As in, support your team, not, I give money to a school, so I "need" to see the results "I" want to see.
Loyalty......please. Have you written a different definition? If not, look it up and try and comprehend what it means.
Read what Coach said again. This time, try and understand what he meant. Don't interpret what YOU want it to mean.
October 18th, 2010 at 2:44 PM |
All I see is...
-He is
All I see is...
-He is
All I see is...
-He is obviously aware of the deficiencies presented by this defense.
-He is aware a lot of that has to do with retention, depth, and youth.
-He is most aware that a lot of this can't and won't be fixed this year or probably next.
I don't see this as pointing the blame at anyone, just acknowledging and relaying that it is likely under construction for a while.
"Those who stay will be champions."
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
October 18th, 2010 at 2:53 PM |
I think we all knew what he meant
I think we all knew what he meant
But its just not something you say at a press conference. How is that supposed to give the young D confidence? Michigan Football has been the butt end of jokes in the midwest for the past 2 years, and these comments just add fuel to that fire. Its like John L slapping himself in the face, or Bobby Williams acknowledging that he lost control of the team. Its not a good thing to say publicly.
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
October 18th, 2010 at 5:23 PM |
SHUT UP YOU
SHUT UP YOU
SHUT UP YOU NAZI!!!
P.S I agree with you I just liked your tagline.
" I want to win Big 10 titles. Multiply. Consecutively. I just made that word up (multiply). I'm like that. I'm good at Scrabble."
"I think we could bring in Vince Lombardi and I don't know if he could fix some of the things with our defense"
I do not think any of us would disagree with the statement...however, should he really be saying this to the media?