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A View From Bloomington

First of all, I attended both schools and so I always make an effort to try and see their matchups each year. I grew up rooting for IU basketball (mother's alma mater) and Michigan football (father's) and have learned to cheer for the other when they're not playing each other. A few thoughts from section K today:

1. The game was sloppy altogether. There was bad coaching and worse officiating on both sides. For most of the game it was fun to watch only because it was my two universities playing each other.

2. Indiana's youth is developing nicely for a set of first-year players. People moaning over how horrible a loss this was for Michigan need to have a reality check. Assembly is never an easy road win. It's a bad loss, certainly, but IU has the ability to win half their Big 10 home games this year. This is not last year's CCRB pickup game team.

3. I was disappointed with the defensive game plan Coach Beilein implemented today. IU is a smart basketball team. What they aren't, is terribly athletic and strong with the ball. When Michigan was playing the aggressive 1-3-1 trap IU was having a lot of trouble. I guess they wanted to switch into the 2-3 to confuse a young team? To me, on the surface it doesn't make sense. IU was playing 4 guards: Jones and Dumes who played a full Big 10 schedule last year, and Hulls (Indiana Mr. Basketball that is terribly overmatched athletically but absolutely knows the game) and Rivers... coaches kid. You're not going to confuse them with a pansy 2-3. Was Beilein that scared of Pritchard beating them in the post? It made no sense.

4. Coach Crean was equally poor in his late game game coaching. I've never been a fan of his Marquette teams at the end of games and it's starting to leak into his Indiana teams. Too many times the shot clock ran down with no coherent set being run. Say what you want about Knight, but the guy would have had a game plan to deal with those defenses at the end of the game. Also, keeping Rivers, who is a complete head case at the line and Pritchard, who is brick city from the line on the floor late in a close game is suicide. Rivers already lost one game to freaking Loyola for this team because he couldn't hit his freebies. He almost did it again.

5. Michigan actually got lucky to play their IU game when the students weren't there. Announced attendance was 15,032 but I'd be shocked if it was more than 13,500. Still, IU's crowd will get behind a team that is playing hard, and for the last 10 minutes today it was a pretty loud atmosphere. Other teams will face a more difficult task.

6. It was fun for me as a born Hoosier to watch Novak and Douglas come home to Indiana and succeed. Crean has been open in saying that he wishes he had been coach at IU early enough to recruit Novak as the kid apparently wanted to come to Bloomington initially but Sampson happened.

7. In the end it seemed IU just wanted each other to succeed more than Michigan did. Players were diving after loose balls and encouraging each other. It's a lot of fun as a fan to root for a team like that. There was one play with about 8 minutes left where a jump ball occurred under Michigan's basket with two IU players and Sims (I think) were on the ground. Immediately the other Indiana players rushed to help their teammates up. Michigan's other 4 guys just stood around until, and I'm not kidding, the referee helped Sims up! I wasn't happy to be a Michigan fan at that moment.

Finally, midway thru the second half they showed a video clip from 1993 of probably the greatest Big 10 game I ever watched when #1 IU and #4 Michigan went down to the wire at Assembly. It made me realize that that was the last year both programs were truly relevant. I think they're both headed back. We as fans just need to be patient. Good game today. Go Blue and Go Hoosiers.

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December 31st, 2009 at 7:50 PM | Co signed (Score:1)
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I agree with just about everything

Especially #2....i have been saying for a long long time that IU would go 5-4, no worse, at home in Big 10 play this year. Did I back off a little in the wake of the Creek injury? Yes. But, after watching them play a game without him and think they can still do that.

Frankly, IU has the better roster right now, top to bottom, IMHE. Of course, that thought is weighted severely in the expectation that Sims and Harris are short timers right now. Gone in a few months. Crean plays, what, 10 guys and they're all coming back. They had more answers out there today.

IU has a lot more firepower and game than last year.

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December 31st, 2009 at 8:45 PM | "Frankly, IU has the better (Score:1)
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"Frankly, IU has the better roster right now, top to bottom, IMHE"

Are you kidding me? I understand it is solely an opinion, but I mean come on. Manny and Sims are 4 times more skilled, more athletic players than anyone on Indiana. And basketball isn't a sport where having a talented roster from top to bottom is essential. I mean your 8th and 9th guys play what, like 5 minutes? In fact, outside of our top 6 (starters plus Morris) no one played more than 8 minutes. To say that Indiana has close to as talented, skilled, or experienced team as ours is ignoring the obvious.

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January 1st, 2010 at 1:29 PM | And yet (Score:1)
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Indiana won....

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January 1st, 2010 at 2:08 PM | Ant Wright's 5 minutes (Score:1)
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Ant Wright's 5 minutes crushed Michigan yesterday

'Murica & Footbaw: That's what Michigan Does

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December 31st, 2009 at 8:04 PM | huge win for Indiana (Score:1)
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I really appreciated this post, thanks.

Interesting and maybe unsurprising that this thread seems to be solely from posters with strong Indiana connections. I grew up in Indiana and went to IU in the later 80's and early 90's. After the Fab 5 arrived in AA hoops wins against Michigan became particularly enjoyable. I do like Beilein's unique approach and Wolverine hoops teams haven't been loathesome in a really long time, though.

I'm not as optimistic about 5 home wins, though. Iowa is a should-win, while the rest of the conference ranges from 'maybe possible' to 'surely not'. Getting three more seems like a bit of a stretch, but we'll see.

As to Michigan's chances, like probably everyone else here I think this looks like a grim season. This team has not shot well all year - few teams can win when they aren't hitting of course, but this system is particularly susceptible. Beilein's approach will not be a surprise in-conference. Pomeroy thinks 6-12, and that's hard to argue with.

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December 31st, 2009 at 8:07 PM | Michigan seems to me to be (Score:1)
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Michigan seems to me to be missing player leadership. It seems that guys are deferring to Harris and Sims but those guys just don't seem like natural leaders. Someone like LLP or Novak really needs to step up and be the guy to take the team to task. Challenge them to put out some more effort and care a little more about how they're making each other look. It's been painful to watch them flounder. We can blame the bad shooting all day, but today there was a disturbing lack of effort down the stretch.

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January 1st, 2010 at 12:14 PM | Anyone who watches Michigan (Score:1)
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Anyone who watches Michigan BB is begging Novak to be that guy.

 

 

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January 1st, 2010 at 10:51 AM | This was a bad loss for UM (Score:1)
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UM needed to win this game. Had the chance and did not come through. That is a bad loss.

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