Came across this video of LSU RB Jeremy Hill teeing off on a defenseless drunk student at LSU. He seems like a pretty good candidate for Aaron Hernandez 2.0. His sentence for the sucker punch: $350 fine, 50 hours community service, and an apology note. It also seems like he may or may not have raped a 14 year old whie in high school... If I was a student at LSU I would be wearing hockey equipment when I went out at night. Link?
Video of LSU RB Jeremy Hill Sucker Punch Released
What's this crap
What does it have to do with LSU's RB getting caught sucker punching someone?
with basketball and hockey sprinkled in. We have a forum where we mostly talk about Michigan stuff but sometimes talk about other relevant stuff like other college football items outside of Michigan football. That's what it has to do with MGoBlog
I don't know why people are getting whinier and whinier about OT posts. We're only a few dumb posters away from questioning "Does Devin Gardner being a counselor at Peyton Manning's football camp REEAAALLLLY have to be on MGoBlog? I mean it didn't even happen in Ann Arbor"
It's a college football related post during the offseason. Sure, this doesn't have anything directly to do with Michigan, but I think it is interesting that someone who plays for a guy who has ties to our university and had a realistic shot to be our head coach at least once during the last 6 or so years is in trouble for some violent incident (which is also not his first).
Also: ESS EEE SEE!!
Also, also: I guess I must have missed the second post you are referring to about groin injury.
Unless you've got a Hello post or some new Swag Mattison for me, I will gladly accept this topic since it's fairly relevant to college football at large. It has basically nothing to do with MGoBlog except that a lot of us here find decent topics about other teams to be interesting during the long boring summers of the offseason
Perhaps your disdain for OT should be directed at the Sharknado tread from this morning...I love Sharknado, but at least this thread has something to do intercollegiate athletics.
This is great news.
While I'm a little out of touch with the current music scene, I'm fairly certain none of these members are the sons of Eric Clapton et al
I don't understand why the second guy wasn't charged with attempted murder, a la Ausar Walcott. That was a violent, dangerous, gratuitous, blind-side punch to a completely overmatched victim.
Why not Jeremy Hill as well?
EDIT: Answer appears to be because the extent of damage caused matters. I don't think this guy is in critical condition. Not that I think that's morally all that relevant, but it is what it is.
And it's easy to imagine from the video that the guy had just picked himself up from a fight he'd actually been a part of and was lumbering towards whoever had knocked him down the first time. So I can imagine the following reason not to charge Hill with attempted murder: you can see his actions as helping to finish a willingly entered fight. It's still clearly criminal, IMO, but I don't wonder why he wasn't charged with attempted murder. (I could be convinced that I should wonder about that, but I haven't been yet.)
The second guy's actions are on a whole different level of heinous violence.
It looks like the video was filmed through two fence pickets. Why don't people turn their phones sideways?
Although I think if you're anyone and you sucker punch someone, you're a bitch. It pisses me off when someone blindsides some defenseless person then starts acting like hot shit.
I don't know what's more embarassing... Sucker punching someone, or being 6'2 235 and barely making the kid wobble with a sucker punch.
If you're a divison 1 running back, and you get a shot at a full wind-up sucker punch, and the guy only just wobbles, aren't you then the loser? I mean, you spend all that time in the weight room and can't knock a guy down with a sucker punch? That's probably why he doesn't get in real fights, I imagine it wouldn't go well (unless he had his bros there to throw a few sucker punches)
Les needs to drop him immediately.
Less Morals is from the Jim Tressel school of let the boys be boys.
That is why I said "needs to" instead of "will". I have lost confidence in most coaches.
I don't know anything about this kid, or his status on the depth chart. I know this is probably not the time to bring it up and is a stretch but here goes:
If he gets dropped, does that affect our chances with Fournette due to a shorter depth chart at RB?
I feel stupid just asking this question.
This is so wrong on so many levels.
God, that video just pisses me off to no end. Besides the assulting a defenseless person angle, the fact that they all act like they're sooo super awesome for sucker punching a kid who's not even looking is just the worst. No person will ever have my respect for thinking anything other than shame for a sucker punch.
Is this wrong that I think this should be added to his punishment?
The judge is about to sentence Jeremy Hill "The verdict is in. You have been sentenced to...."
And Jeremy Hill gets sucker punched by Mike Tyson from behind and the judge and Tyson dance around the middle of the court room high-fiving eachother.
I knew a few cool football players when I went to college but most were douchebags. Especially when there was a group of them with alcohol.
What a fuckin chump. This is how a stupid situation goes from bad to worse. If the kid who gets sucker punched is leagally carrying a gun he has every right to defend himself, whats the story then?
Um... have you been in a hole these last few weeks?
Why, exactly, should we compare these thugs to a kid who got murdered while walking home, oh wise race-baiting one?
[NB: this is a heavily edited version of a much more appropriate response.]
For what it's worth, the entire theory of the defense's case is that a kid who was legally carrying a gun got sucker punched and had every right to defend himself under Florida law because he reasonably believed that he was at risk of great bodily harm. Pretty much exactly what the poster you were responding to said.
He was 28, and he created a situation in which a single minor might (and, he claims, did) attack him.
Discussion of the rest is for other fora.
Even if dude had a gun, you can't just shoot someone to avoid getting punched. You have to reasonably believe your life or someone else's life is in danger (or at risk of serious harm). You're going to jail if you get punched and respond by shooting the guy who hit you, concealed carry license or not
Seems right, but Louisiana is also pretty gun-friendly. For example, if the guy just hopped into his car, he would have much more latitude to use his gun to protect himself and his car. [Note: I'm not a Louisiana lawyer, but I've copied and pasted the below from http://www.uslawshield.com/louisiana/florida-gun-law/ for reference.]
Justified Use of Force and Deadly Force:
In Louisiana a person is allowed to use force or violence against another for the purposes of preventing a forcible offense against the person or property in the person’s possession. This justification does not apply if the use of force or violence results in death. Use of force or violence that results in death is only allowed in the following situations:
- when committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger or losing his life or receiving great bodily harm.
- when committed for the purpose of preventing a violent or forcible felony involving danger to life or great bodily harm.
- when committed by the occupant of a dwelling, place of business or motor vehicle, against a person who is reasonably believed to be using force to unlawfully gain entry. Louisiana law creates a presumption that a person is justified in using deadly force in the protection of themselves if the perpetrator is unlawfully, forcibly entering their occupied dwelling, place of business or motor vehicle. Louisiana law also allows a person to defend a third-party if the third-party would have been justified in defending themselves. Also, a person is under no duty to retreat from their dwelling, place of business or motor vehicle. It does not appear that a person could use deadly force in the protection of property alone, where the person did not feel that there was a reasonable threat of death or great bodily harm.
Well, if he were to get hit again once he hit the pavement he could lose his life. How can you say that someone else does or does not feel in danger? Granted, dude was wasted so his perception is way off. But if he got up and told them to knock it off, and they came at him again... all bets would be off no?
No. Definitely no. You're missing the "reasonably believe" part. Alcohol doesn't allow you to say your belief was skewed and in fact hurts your case. The jury isn't going to buy that for a second.
You could try to say you thought you might fall and hit your head and it would kill you, I guess. Again that's probably not a reasonable belief and deadly force would not be privileged.
Also you have to retreat in most states (if you can and aren't in your home). Not sure about Louisiana.
Tl;Dr don't shoot a guy for punching you
I was just stating the guy had a pretty good reason to feel endangered if you ask me. Just a bad situation
"You have to reasonably believe your life or someone else's life is in danger (or at risk of serious harm)."
Why did you include the "or at risk of serious harm" in a parenthetical? It's just as important to the standard as believing that one's life is in danger.
Can we not compare a kid who suckerpunched someone to a guy awaiting trial for murder?
Especially given our own history with players beating up randoms people (St. Patricks Day Nerd Massacre anyone?)
Forgive my ignorance. What is the St. Patricks Day Nerd Massacre?
He may be refering to when Ypsilanti came to town a year or two ago for St. Pattys day. Just my guess.
St Paddy's Day 2007, Carson Butler and Christian Richards III attacked a student in the West Quad for no apparent reason and beat the crap out of him
Anybody remember when Craven Morehead posted that picture of a dead body in Detroit?
EDIT: Whoops. This was supposed to go in the thread with the picture of the bull trying to kill that dude. Oh well.
that was Dixon Butz that posted that. ?
Life will catch up with his bitch ass. He'll probably be homeless, penniless, and smoking crack in an abandoned building in Baton Rouge by 2020.
Was he also about to get into a black Mercedes C-Class? Yup, that's a real "student-athlete" there for you.
This stuff just makes me sick to my stomach. Regardless of how big or strong you are, or if you're an athlete, it's just wrong to purposefully attempt to hurt someone like that. The only caveat is that I didn't see what lead up to that so for all I know the victim started it with an equally gross act on someone else, but geez. A fair fight of two willing combatants is one thing, but this sort of stuff just really bothers me.
athletes have never sucker punched someone, maybe even recently?
As if you need another reason to not punch a fellow student in the face, everyone has a smartphone and is undoubtedly taping anything that happens after the bars close. If you punch a kid in the face, you better believe there will be evidence, and it will wind up on the internet and you'll suffer even worse consequences.
Also, apparently this Hill kid was charged with having a 14-year-old perform a sexual act on him in HS. Why he was even allowed to play college football boggles my mind.
When he was 19*
Seems like kind of a despicable human.
So sick of the off-season crap that we have to endure. We are ALL losing our minds.
He probably thought he was going to get away with it too... In the midst of slappin high fives im sure he didn't realize the guy recording say "Jeremy Hill punchin people" in the middle of the video
Sucker-punched a good pal of mine and broke his jaw in 1988 - which then had to be wired shut for many weeks. He had done nothing to deserve any type of punch. Just a big meathead looking to prove his meatheadedness.
And Bo didn't do a thing.