I apologize for the poor thread and video titles, but it's probably a good idea for me to fog up the NFL's Googles a bit with this one. Was that a bad route or a bad throw on the long ball?
Here's his 40 if you missed it yesterday:
I cut it out of the highlights but guys also said his hands were too far apart and that would help DBs get PBUs against him. I was still impressed that he caught everything in the gauntlet drill. To my untrained eyes, he looked like a viable NFL WR. I think the deep ball was a little off but he didn't adjust to it very well either.
I'm glad that he made the catches in the gauntlet, but, in general, receivers want to catch the ball with their palms extended and their fingers up and together. That results in a strong secure catch. His second-to-last catch on the gauntlet was good form. Beyond that, Denard was primarily cradling the ball with his fingers down, and I'm sure the scouts noticed. He'll need a fair bit of teaching/repetition.
Good stuff thanks. I looked like that deep ball was overthrown. He looks like a natural at catching.
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The long ball was supposed to be overthrown and thrown "poorly." The drill is to see if the WR can track a ball, preferrably over their right shoulder by the end.
So the WR runs at the top of the numbers. Look s over their left shoulder for the ball ( not at the QB) and then tracks the ball over their shoulder. If they have to turn their head over their right shoulder because the ball is so "poorly" thrown then even better.
So Denard did just fine, but didn't actually catch the ball. It would have been better to have caught it, but the tracking was there and he put himself where he needed to be to make the play with good form.
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He definitely needs to work on improving his hands. Like others have said, his hands are/were too far apart and in the wrong position. If a defender were there and/or he had been distracted by game situations, several of those could have been incompletions.
He did do a decent (not great) job of tracking the ball, but that was a pass that should have been caught. With nobody covering him, that's a pretty standard catch.
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Decent showing I don't think he's hurt himself by any means. I hope he's on the team that does hard knocks.
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"Make the routine catches all of the time, and make the impossible catches most of the time."
Wow, people expect an awful lot just to pay you several million dollars a year.
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Michael Irvin said something similar, basically that with your hands far apart and poor technique, you make it easier for the defender to disrupt you, and it's harder to recover and bring your hands together in proper position to make the catch. Denard's got work to do, but it seems like he did what he needed to do to make his case.
I'm just happy that he was able to perform at the level he did, considering he's competing at the highest level, at a completely different/new position.
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I think he acquitted himself pretty well after what most called a poor senior bowl showing. Those passes right a waist level, like in the gauntlet, are always hard to catch too far away from your body because they are right at the point where it's difficult to tell whether you need to flip your hands over or not.
There was one more catch that he madethat you left out. He was the first one to make the catch in that drill and his was the highlight of that drill. It was another seam route adjustment on the other side of the field and he caught the ball over his inside shoulder. That's the one where I think he made some money.
Approximately when in the broadcast did that happen? Was it a QB drill? Are you sure it was Denard? I'm not seeing it.
you definitely missed it.. It was the first time they started doing the deep ball drill and Denard WAS the first one to make the catch over a bunch of great WR...
I saw the 40-yard but not the gauntlet yesterday, so this was a nice, informative compilation. Thanks for posting this.
Overall, I think this was a good performance and I don't think it hurts him at all in terms of draft stock. In an era when teams are looking for multi-purpose weapons on offense (a player who can hurt you in diverse ways), Denard could be an excellent one in the NFL. Under a creative OC, the upside is potentially substantial.
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His hand position is poor, but his hands themselves looked nice and soft. The coach that gets him can straighten out the hand position.
Anybody who doesn't think he will have a decent NFL career is nuts. He will be hardworking and bring a great attitude + speeeeeed.
I hope the kid makes himself several million dollars and takes care of the money, and doesn't really have to work like the rest of us suckers. He can coach and be a presence in young kid's lives when he is done playing.
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some team will take a chance on him in the 6th or 7th round.
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I think some team will take a chance on him in the 2nd round. I think he should go in the 3rd or 4th round, but someone will not want to lose a chance at getting him and will jump the gun a bit.
very surprised if he went in the 2nd round (pleasanly surprised might I add)
Reason why I say very late rounds is that I keep hearing "experts" say he doesnt catch the ball well enough and the routes arent very crisp. I think whoever drafts him is in for a nice surprise as we all know very well.
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This is depressing to watch.
I love you Denard.
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So did he actually run a 4.34 or 4.43?
He ran a 4.43 officially.
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2. Pure speed and elusiveness.
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I suspect he goes in the 3rd or 4th round.
If a contender drafts him, he could make a serious contribution.
If a pretender drafts him, it could be less than stellar.
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I couldn't tell you on the deep ball. However, I'm going to guess that people will say he did a poor job because, "He let the ball get into his body." I don't really know though, just seems like a thing guys will say.