"The Victors" --Victory Version?
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So i was just thinking about how the band used to play the Victors slowly and with different inflections as soon as the clock hit triple zeroes after a win. Then follow it up with the normal Victors.
Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
The last time I remember it being played was during the Carr era. I'm assuming a new band director came in and decided to take it out.
Should it be brought back? Did anyone notice it was gone?
I kinda liked it as it portrayed the cocky arrogance of "yeah, we just kicked your ass." Then again, nothing beats the classic.
EDIT: ok, looks like it's called "Victors Waltz." I say bring it back. Win with character. Win with cruelty.
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:50 PM ^
I know what you're talking about. It can be heard at the end of this video.
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:59 PM ^
WD, how in the world were you ever able to find this or know where it was???
/smh in amazement!
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:35 PM ^
Because I loved this version when I was young and this was the only place I could find it. That video has been up a lonnnnnng time.
Back when YouTube wasn't infested with ads and the user interface wasn't complete shit. Ever since Google bought it, it's been a nightmare to navigate around.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:23 PM ^
The answer is obvious. He is MGoRedemption.
/s
January 4th, 2016 at 12:04 AM ^
Ah, and don't forget the "Minor is Major" call at 3:45.
Wish he didn't have injuries...he did some good things while he could.
Oh yeah, and Victors at end.
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:49 PM ^
I can't hear it at the end of the video. Is it M Fanfare?
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:51 PM ^
Posted the 2008 Capital One Bowl. That wasn't the right one, it was actually 2008 Wisconsin.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:09 PM ^
That's what I remember it as.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 9:51 PM ^
I think it was called the "Victors Waltz?"
January 4th, 2016 at 6:35 AM ^
Played fast or slow, brings the chills.
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:52 PM ^
You're probably referring to the Victors Waltz. My first year in band, 2010, we got the music for it but never played it. After that year, they didn't even hand out the music anymore. I got the feeling it had been effectively phased out before i got there and that the band/directors felt it wasn't really liked anymore.
For as much as people tended to complain about everything we ever did, the fact that I never heard any complaining about that tells me they were probably right.
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:56 PM ^
I liked it. They should bring it back.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:00 PM ^
Agreed, bring it back. It would be kind of nice to play it after every Michigan victory.
January 4th, 2016 at 8:25 AM ^
But now I'm annoyed! Bring it back!
January 3rd, 2016 at 9:57 PM ^
Is that because you had that terrible director, Scott Borma, in 2010? We played Victors Waltz all the time under P. Nix
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January 4th, 2016 at 9:15 PM ^
Shut your whore mouth. It was a pretty much a band decision. We weren't winning much so we didn't play it as much, which for some reason resulted in us not having it memorized properly. It was starting to sound bad and most people just didn't really care about it at the time. I guess everyone was more focused on our football team's woes. I'm all for bringing it back now though.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:08 PM ^
It was heavy with Michigan arrogance. They should bring it back.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:39 PM ^
Yep, it was the Victors Waltz.
Honestly, I completely forgot about it until this thread, but yes. I was in the band with both Nix and Boerma, and I think we played it in Boerma's first year. I really can't remember. Come to think of it, haven't heard it since.
There were a lot of things phased out or changed for basically no reason at all around then. But I digress.
January 4th, 2016 at 9:12 AM ^
Now that I think of it Bando, I remember playing it in the 70s at basketball games (and maybe hockey too). I think it was limited to sports other than football until the 90s.
January 4th, 2016 at 12:58 PM ^
We played it in 2008 for sure and Scotty B got rid of it the next year. We never really practiced it much and we only got to play it 3 times in 2008 :(, so I think Boerma figured it wasnt worth playing. They still handed out the music every year though lol.
January 4th, 2016 at 9:19 PM ^
No, 2009 was my first year and we played it all year, the next year it was phased out toward the middle of the season.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:00 PM ^
We did it back when we won more frequently you say? Seems we know what should be done
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January 3rd, 2016 at 10:03 PM ^
Around the same time rich rod came, the band brought in an asshat director who shit on a number of traditions.
Of course it didn't help that we didn't win a lot at that time either, but I still blame the shitty director for fucking it all up
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January 3rd, 2016 at 10:02 PM ^
I believe Victors Waltz was written around 96/97/98. It was played only when victory was assured. The specter of the Colorado game was still well present in the late 90's.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:06 PM ^
That timeframe is about right. We never played it in the 70s.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:08 PM ^
Yep, we started playing it towards the end of my time in band, either in the 97 or 98 season. I liked it and wouldn't mind if it was brought back.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:09 PM ^
They should definitely bring it back. The piped in music people probably didn't think it was what Michigan football is all about - not enough fireworks.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:15 PM ^
I believe we played Victors Waltz through my senior season (although we rarely had the opportunity as it was '08). So that's at least 2 years into Boerma and 1 year into Rich Rod. Maybe Pasquale got rid of it? I always enjoyed it.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:21 PM ^
Why is this not played at weddings?
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:28 PM ^
Never liked it. Too gimmicky.
Nothing is better than playing "The Victors"...the way God intended.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:34 PM ^
The Victors has been played with various alternative tempo's since it was first introduced.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:45 PM ^
Victors Waltz is not an alternate tempo version of the Victors. It is a different arrangement in a different time signature (3/4 vs 4/4) with a slower tempo.
Same goes for Calyptors
January 3rd, 2016 at 11:00 PM ^
You'll probably really hate this:
And these:
https://youtu.be/IlXEBsRwUek?t=23s
https://youtu.be/4yUGEJSBENs?t=1m
https://youtu.be/2zZafiaa0DU?t=50s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C_JpoZeUSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfOYIPWK1F8
I love the variations of the song. Can't get enough of them.
January 3rd, 2016 at 11:10 PM ^
You would like this one then
January 3rd, 2016 at 11:24 PM ^
Love that version! It was my ringtone for a long time.
January 4th, 2016 at 11:05 AM ^
It will now be my new wake up alarm when I need to ease into the day.
Go Blue!
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:32 PM ^
I love the Victors Waltz. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I think it is older than 97-98. My brother was in the band from 1983-87. I'll ask him.
My favorite variant however is Calyptors. Can't get enough of that one.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:49 PM ^
It definitely was first played in the 90s during my time in band. I remember when it was introduced and being told that we would only play it if a win was 100% guaranteed.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:54 PM ^
You are right for sure. I just went on youtube and watched the end of a bunch of games from the mid to late eighties and NO victors waltz.
January 3rd, 2016 at 10:59 PM ^
Good stuff.
January 3rd, 2016 at 11:01 PM ^
I was a freshman in the MMB in 1997 and we definitely played Victors Waltz then. I want to say that it was a new arrangement that year, but I'm not 100% certain. I could be completely wrong, but I think the arrangement t was done by Jamie Nix who was a grad assistant and later became the MMB director from 2001-2006.
My favorite was always, besides the original, was always Hoover Street Rag. Credit to those backing Calyptors though.
January 3rd, 2016 at 11:57 PM ^
They got rid of the Victors Waltz?? HORSESHIT
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January 3rd, 2016 at 11:58 PM ^
It was played before the team started regularly coming over to the students/band to sing the fight song. There was one time I can recall (ND 2006) where the players came over to sing with the band and seemed confused that the slow version was being played, but they went along with it. I wouldn't be surprised if that confusion was related to the demise of the Victors Waltz.
January 4th, 2016 at 6:48 AM ^
This is the correct answer. I was in the MMB during the late Carr and early Rich Rod era, and Rich Rod started sending the team over to the students and the band to sing The Victors after a win. That's why The Victors Waltz went away, to better coordinate what was going on with the team and the students. It had nothing to do with the whims of the band directors.
January 4th, 2016 at 7:28 AM ^
Yeah, that makes sense and I can understand the awkwardness. When it was introduced, we were told that we would play it some time during the last 3 minutes of the game, when it was a lock. But as we all know, sometimes things aren't a lock until time runs out and I can definitely see it being awkward once the team was sent over to have to wait through Victors Waltz.
January 4th, 2016 at 9:00 AM ^
It works in kneeldown situations if you start playing it as time is ticking away. There's usually a little window there, as the players are shaking hands with the other team before they run over to the students.
January 4th, 2016 at 12:07 AM ^
Never heard it before. It's cool though for shizzle.
January 4th, 2016 at 11:21 AM ^
National Champions, hail to the victors valiant. Didn't get better than that.