Via Bruce Feldman and others. This is incredible. I cannot imagine how painful this was. Sort of explains why he couldn't run an option play on the two point conversion and why it was so critical to go for two instead of the tie.
Various sources on Twitter: Gardner played fourth quarter against OSU with a broken foot
DG is clearly one tough SOB.
Those who stay.
If there was a fracture of some kind, when (after OSU) was it diagnosed? I went back to see where all of the "turf toe" talk originated. And whether the team, and/or Hoke, supplied that explanation.
What I gather is that the Michigan beat-writers somehow got "turf toe" from Hoke. Here is an example (Nick Baumgardner in this case):
The junior quarterback has not practiced since Michigan closed its 2013 regular season with a 42-41 loss to Ohio State on Nov. 30.
He was seen wearing crutches and a walking boot at the team's banquet earlier this month, and the official diagnosis from Hoke has been "turf toe."
I have gotten used to Hoke being non-forthcoming about injuries. But I am really uncomfortable with Hoke putting out misinformation; actively decieving the public when asked about specific injuries. "Turf toe" is not the same as a fracture.
Is there a good, clear, honest answer to this?
...is that turf toe sometimes involves a fracture. That might also explain why there's "concern about a possible fracture" as opposed to an obvious break of a larger bone.
I don't know whether that's what's going on or not. But accusing the staff of lying because you think "turf toe is not the same as a fracture" without further evidence is a bit much.
That Devin may have suffered a fracture in the OSU game? Isn't that the point of the thread? There wasn't this sort of reaction when the working diagnosis had been "turf toe." Doesn't everybody agree that this is new news, and a significant angle to the Gardner story? I do, and I don't think I'm at all unusual in that regard.
Significant news? Yes, it explains the reason. Other than that, what do you want from me?
The "public" doesn't have a single goddamned "right" to any information about any student's injuries, whether he's an athlete or not.
The only people who have a "right" to accurate medical information are those student-athletes who are injured, their families, and other team members and coaches.
I realize bookies, oddsmakers, and gamblers aren't too happy with Hoke, but fuck 'em.
So unless there was a pretty clear understanding with Devin Gardner, and Gardner had "turf toe," there would be no justification for anyone -- Hoke, or anyone else -- to talk about Gardner having "turf toe." But that is exactly what seems to have happened. And nobody took much notice or thought much of it. Business as usual for a high-profile football player being followed in the press.
Now, some sort of imaging study, I am pretty confident, would offer up some distinction between a fracture and "turf toe." An MRI for ("turf toe"), a plain film radiograph (for any fractures); that sort of thing. I am not really presuming to offer any conclusive answers. I am just asking questions.
So yes, Don, I agree that medical information could arguably be kept private. Which is the distinction I made. Non-disclosure is one thing. ("You all saw Devin on crutches at the Bust; I can confirm that he is not practicing due to that injury, but I will not be disclosing anything else about Devin's private medical information...") That's not what Hoke did. Hoke gave the press "turf toe."
So now disinformation would be something else altogether. And this is where I regrettable have to speculate, until Hoke answers some more specific questions. The speculation would be that Hoke deliberately mumbled something about "turf toe" to keep KSU guessing as to whether they'd have to defend Devin, or focus solely on Shane. Because "turf toe" could be day-to-day, whereas a fracture is a virtual guarantee that Devin wouldn't play for several weeks. The questions for Hoke are: You mentioned "turf toe" as Devin's diagnosis; is that true, or is it a fracture? If there is a fracture, when did it occur? When was it diagnosed? How was it diagnosed? Do any of the doctors think it is somehow both? A fracture and "turf toe"?
...I prefer to get my medical information from the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons than from your imagination.
Surgery is not often necessary for treating turf toe. However, if your symptoms persist or your level of athletic play is affected, surgery may be an option. Doctors most often recommend surgery for larger Grade 3 injuries, such as:
- A severe tear of the plantar complex
- Fracture of the sesamoid
Maybe there's a radiologist here who can weigh in on how easy it is to diagnose a sesamoid fracture, or the "small bony pull-off fractures where the plantar complex attaches to the bones" mentioned elsewhere on the page. I suspect there might be situations where the diagnosis would be in doubt even after an x-ray, but maybe I'm wrong.
Either way, the point is that fractures can be part of a diagnosis of turf toe. Not just accompanying the turf toe but part of the diagnosis. Which would mean that regardless of when the diagnosis was made, Hoke was honest throughout when he described the injury as a turf toe.
So if Devin's injury is one of turf toe with a fracture involvement, Hoke could get away (heck, he doesn't need to "get away"; he can say whatever he wants to) with calling it "turf toe."
Yet my question(s) remain the same: Coach Hoke, we've been hearing from sources close to the player/team that Devin has a fracture; is that true? If so, when did you learn that a fracture was part of the diagnosis?
I mean, one avenue of explanation in this case is that "All's fair in love and war and college football. Sure, Hoke knew two weeks ago that Devin had a severe Grade 3 injury in the category of "turf toe," including a fracture of the sesamoid, but never said anything about the fracture part, because he wanted to keep KSU off balance in terms of defensive game-planning..."
In what bizarre universe is Brady Hoke obligated to give our opponent accurate injury information?
What is the ethical and moral distinction between not providing accurate injury information to our opponent and running a fake punt? Both are intentionally deceptive.
"In what bizarre universe..."
06/30/2008. You should know by now.
that Denard Robinson would be fine and would be back to play in the second half of the Nebraska game in Lincoln on Octobe 27, 2012.
So there's that.
Not that Denard was questionable; not that he didn't know. No; Denard would be back in the second half.
... Given that there is deception in games on the field, why not deception off the field? Couldn't that be part of the game?
But then isn't everything that comes out of Hoke's mouth subject to a kind of mysticism as to whether it is disinformation designed to fool opponents?
When he broke his foot, the shoe probably kept it mostly aligned and tight so the broken bone wouldn't move much so it wouldn't hurt too bad.
Also the adrenaline pumping through him offset some of that pain too.
I actually wouldn't be suprised if he didn't think it was nothing more than a bruised bone.
Not trying to say what he did wasn't impressive but def explains the playcalling for the last play.
"Didn't hurt too bad"
Aaaaaand I misquoted you. My bad. I'm not taking away from your point, but that part seemed like an understatement.
It does not explain Borges calling the exact same formation after a timeout though. That is still a mystery.
It's Borges....mystery explained.
So, does Devin have a broken foot and turf toe, or "just" a broken foot. Maybe someone can explain....they aren't one and the same?
Why has Hoke being calling it a turf toe injury?
Posted this on the other thread but apparently I need to post it here too. A fracture of the sesamoid is sometimes a component of a severe grade 3 turf toe injury.
I have seen two NFL teams do exactly the same thing this year...
IF you believe in the play I don't care if OSU sees the formation. And I will take the actions of NFL coordinators before your, or any one else's, opnion...
and I'm tired of Borges dumb fucking logic that 2 play's ran at -8yds gain and 16yds gain equals a 8yrd avg. This is fucking football not fucking bingo, attempt to score a godamn touchdown on every single play or go home. Count me in as one of the people who thinks that the game has passed Michigans co-ordinators by, it possible to win with smashmouth football ala Stanford but not without embrassing "new age" concepts.
I do rehab for a living and I would posit that if reports of the injury are consistent with internets/twitters then DG is a very tough individual. Adrenaline might offset some pain/discomfort temporarily but not for that duration. You can only do so much with shoes/taping and neither of these is going to do much when he had to plant at speed or when taking a shot to the leg in passing while maintaining a throwing posture. A half-time injection might have helped but that's no certainty.
Not that foot but...Ouch.
I'm presuming after the game DG caught a few fish by hand in the Huron, went drinking with Taylor Lewan and had all of his drinks bought for him by Bill Brasky.
"Don't complain about that horrible chest pain radiating up into your arm. You've got a nice tight shirt on, so you don't actually feel that bad."
But I agree that Devin told the coaches that he injured his foot and probably was the reason Hoke went for two!
I need to go dig up all the geniuses here calling DG soft when he slid to avoid a tackle in the MSU game, not getting the 1st down in the process.
I'll take my beating. I criticized DG as being soft during the middle of the season, but I realized he was hurt and had nothing but respect for him.
I don't think DG is soft but he just isn't a real aggressive runner like denard was. When he takes a hit it often looks painful and awkward...maybe because he's 6'4". Denard bounced around like a pinball, took some huge hits up the middle and just seemed to pop back up most of the time. I realize they are two totally different athletes but both are tougher than nails!!! Hope he is rewarded his 5th year with a big ten championship and a spot in the playoffs.
but a player can be guilty of committing a singularly "soft" play without being soft.
DG is clearly not soft. But that slide against MSU was, by itself, a soft play.
But it's still pretty dumb to criticize a quarterback for ever making a "soft" play. QBs are expected to run out of bounds or slide. They need to be healthy for the sake of the team.
would you rather have a qb that protects himself and lives to see another down, or a qb that fights for an extra couple of crucial yards--at the very real risk of being hit out of the game?
i think the best answer is that it depends on the situation, and i'd want a qb that can read the situation in the game and shows the capability of doing both. you don't want your qb taking a helmet to the throwing shoulder for an extra yard on 1st down. but i would argue that you, as a fan, could reasonably expect your qb to fight for that extra yard or two on a critical 3rd down play. and i would further argue that a qb who fails to do that and slides instead committed a soft play.
I don't think many coaches are going to criticize a QB who goes down/out of bounds on his own unless it happens to be an absolute desperate situation, like the end of the game. There's a big difference between a QB and any other ballcarrier. QBs wear lighter pads and need to be healthy enough to throw with precision, whereas other skill players just have to be healthy enough to hold on to the ball.
It ain't hard to find them if you look. I noted a couple of times in my little write-ups that people calling him soft or overrated were being idiots. He's had an un-and-down season, but nobody should question the toughness of New 98.
I thought the mods set you up to get out of Bolivia...out of curiousity, who in the world did you end up pissing off and what did you do?
Wow, he was quite the warrior that day. Maybe that's another reason we went for 2 (which was still the right call.)
Still don't like that we didn't use our TO.
We should've settled things down and got everyone on the same page. THAT was the mistake.
I would've lined up in a dummy play. Saw the OSU defense and called TO.
Then ran something with everyone on the same page.
Also, in that situation, run a pick play...if they call it, okay, now you get another shot from the 12 yardline, it's not a HUGE deal and worth the risk.
OSU called a timeout. We didn't need to call another.
I also don't understand your entire thought about the trick play...
He is saying a pick play, not a trick play. A play in which one receiver basically sets a pick on the other receiver's defender. It is illegal but there are ways of running it where it appears legal.
And if you don't...then the penalty doesn't really hurt you.
On the 2, all you have to do is run at the "other" CB. No need to touch him, if he has to reroute just a little bit, that should be enough space to get open long enough for a 2 yard pass.
Devin = Duke
who opted out of serving in WW2? John Wayne fucking sucks. Give me Jimmy Stewart any day. He actually served and was a better actor.
In real life you are 100% correct. However it's difficult to find animated GIF's with Jimmy Stewart symbolizing "toughness". The only ones I could find were with Stewart were with him and his imaginary soft, furry rabbit Harvey and that wasn't exactly the mental picture of tougness I was looking for.
John Wayne wanted to be Ted Williams when he grew up, but he's still one of my favorite actors, and this movie is freaking CLASSIC. One of Maureen O'Hara's best roles, too.
Now the original 98 Tom Harmon...that was a tough guy.
BTW, performances like DG vs. Ohio are why I'm keeping my season tix.
This kinda makes me want to go through the 4Q play-by-play to try and figure out when it happened, but I'm not enough of a sadist to do that.
Per Bruce, it was the second drive of the third quarter. I seem to remember him coming up hobbled at some point, but can anyone pinpoint when it was?
Shane was warming up after the fumble by Gardner was upheld. I re watched this the other day and it seemed like Gardner was O.K. Because he had his headset on.
He has a limp afterward, as a poster mentions above. About 9:00 left in the third
That's a passer rating of 172.18, basically on par with his entire game against ND (which was pretty great) and trailing only his longball-fests against Minnesota and Indiana. With a broken foot!
This also means that the coaches have likely known from the start that he would not play in the bowl game.
Just like the Cowboys know there is no shot in hell of Romo playing.
Which is fine. The Packers knew that Aaron Rodgers wouldn't be back this year.. but acted like he was close so defenses would have to prepare for him.
Aaron Rodgers is starting Sunday.
Also the same guys that sit in living rooms lecturing to recruits parents about how they're full of "integrity."
Are you saying because the coaches participated in gamesmanship that they therefore lack integrity? /s?
The antithesis to integrity seems to encompass lying. I'm not trying to pile on Hoke here for what most other FBS coaches do. But when it comes down to it, we're playing in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl, is lying about a kid's injury to get a competitive advantage really necessary?
I'd say if you're going to preach integrity, then you should practice it.
Just comes off as pretty sleazy.
Did Hoke ever say that Gardner was definitely going to play? Everything I read from him was that if the game was "X" then Gardner wouldn't be playing. To me, a lack of integrity would be pushing Gardner to play despite an injury.
Hm. I guess you and I have different definitions of sleazy. Had he outright said Gardner would play then that is one thing but he was consistently vague and noncommittal on Gardner's status and went so far as to say something along the lines of "if the game was played today, Shane would start." I have no problem with him keeping things in house.
Now, if you want to question his integrity for doling out one game suspenions for things like theft or a DUI then I'm on board.
Hoke is a lot of things. Sleazy is not one of them. In fact he probably has some of the highest integrity of any D1 football coach in the country. If you look at how he was running early in the year versus later in the year you can see that he didn't have the same cutting ability. I think the foot is a culmination of a lot of odd sided weight bearing that human beings tend to do once a certain injury occurs. He probably hurt his ankle at some point in the year, it never fully healed, he put a lot of plantar pressure on his foot and eventually broke the foot.
Regardless, the fact is the kid has heart and guts. Next year, especially if he can pick up the nuances of Borges offense, then we won't be complaining about the lack of a "check with me" option on this offense. He will just be slinging to the open man. I can hardly wait actually. If his mental toughness catches up to his physical toughness (ie. the game slows down for him and HE is making the right reads) then watch out!
I want to play poker with you. Is it true you hold your cards facing outwards, because your integrity doesn't allow you to bluff?
The NFL requires injuries to be disclosed. That's not the case for college football, and there are probably constraints on what Hoke can disclose because a student-athlete's medical information is private. Thus his frequent use of the term "boo boo."
If Devin reveals his diagnosis or gives Hoke permission to do so, that would be different. But if you don't have to tell before the game, why would you?
This is a good counter, and one I legitimately hadn't thought of before. But something tells me Hoke doesn't take the nuances of HIPAA into account when fudging around re injuries.
Using your logic, trick plays, play action, and all other forms of deception are also sleazy. You're making the opponent think you're doing one thing, and then you do another. Tut tut, I say, that's not real sportsmanship.
it is strong in this one.
I'm sure the coaches didn't make him not get the concern investigated or tell his parents.
How are they less full of integrity by not telling the coaches at K-State.
How does this affect DG in the spring?
How long does this typically take to heel?
That said, Shane is going to get half the spring reps regardless. And I'd assume Bellomy is going to get a good chunk as well.
For me, I was in a cast for like 6 weeks and then a walking boot for 2-3 weeks.
The bone will be fine in 2 months (end of Feb, beginning of March). Maybe 2-4 weeks of PT but probably less.
Then the mental aspect which can't be determined but I bet not too bad since the bone is technically stronger and he has amazing assistants to help.
Not sure when the Spring Game is but he will be 100% by middle to end of March and can play with contact in beginng to middle of March.
I'd imagine Gardner will be ready for spring practice since he's been in a boot since late November.
I would say that depends on whether or not he needs to have surgery. If so this could possibly keep him in the sidelines throughout the entire summer.
In the game yeah but there's no doubt he got a lot of time in practice which is far more important. Gardner has plenty of experience of course but never like to see a qb out for spring practice especially with young receivers.
What a badass.
was not a viable option nor was any type of run or rollout on the part of Gardner on the 2 point conversion. The man gave his all and then some.
can the Devin haters please just back away...just appreciate that this dude is a great player and can be a huge factor this upcoming year.
Or Giants fans would be calling for the owner's head for wasting a draft pick, Coughlin's head for suddenly becoming a bad coach, and demanding that Eli be moved to snapper. Fortunately he had enough relatively good seasons that his record-setting number of interceptions this year wasn't laid solely on his head (or arm). Seems they had some [many] difficulties with the O-line (including starting center & Mich. Alum David Baas being injured and eventually going on IR).
And good thing Eli has that track record, or the fact that he and his brother (who's had a couple good seasons too, I've heard) praised Devin so highly at their camp this summer wouldn't keep the urelenting skeptics from saying "Yeah? So what does that interception-throwing Giants QB know about QB-ing?"
A quote from CBSsports.com's story after the tweet:
As for Gardner's foot injury, the fact he suffered the injury during Michigan's second drive of the third quarter means that Gardner led the Wolverines on three touchdown drives in the fourth quarter with a broken foot. In other words, Devin Gardner is tougher than you and I.
[Apologies for re-posting from the now-outdated "what's new about Devin" post. But the skeptics are unfortunately still at it.]
He's going pro.
Unless he works out brilliantly, he'd probably be looking at a 4th-7th round pick. Why leave early for that?
If he's going pro then I'm going platinum!!
Just recalling some of the hate DG got this season for some of his play...no faulting his effort on broken foot.
Any news about an injury that Borges may have suffered around 2001?
No, but wots is he consumed 72 ounces of paint chips during halftime of the 2012 OSU game.
Just for general information, NBC was running with Hoke's actual quote - in this story - which apparently reads:
Hoke said that “doctors [are] worried about broken bones possibly in his foot.” Bruce Feldman of CBSSports.com is reporting that Gardner “broke his left foot” during the regular season-ending loss to Ohio State but played through the injury.
It also mentions that Gardner is expected to be healthy by the time Spring Practice rolls around as well. Either way, more proof that Devin gives his all and then some for this team.
Played that quarter on pure guts and adrenaline. I can't imagine what kind of pain he was in afterwards.
Tough bastard. I hope this clinches a captaincy in 2014
Devin's the only returning senior on offense who's a significant contributor -- I can't imagine him not being a captain. (Rawls and Paskorz will be seniors too.) And Jake Ryan's already a captain so he's got next year's spot on defense. It'll be interesting to see if there are any others beyond those two.
Looking again at the depth chart, it's pretty amazing how young our team will still be next year -- the low-point of RichRod's recruiting shows up in next year's seniors. The only plausible senior starters we lose after 2014 are Devin on offense, and JMFR, Morgan, Ramon Taylor, Beyer, Clark, and perhaps Furman on defense. There are some really good players in that group, but I expect pretty big things in 2015-2016 if this coaching staff can develop the talent we've got in the pipeline.
People still think it was a bad decision to go for two now? Guy clearly gave it his all. Much respect to DG
The dude has got balls! He had to be playing in so much pain. It was apparent he was hurting out there, but damn. Much respect to Devin Gardner for fighting through it on his way to putting together an amazing performance!
I defended DG time and time again during this season. He was clearly playing his heart out, I honestly felt bad for him. Very proud that he's a Michigan man!
He has earned my respect and all his turnovers are forgiven for now.
Look forward to a much better 2014!
It was turf toe, you maroons. Maybe there's a way to spin it that the pure coaching genius of Hoke obfuscated a broken foot as a "day-to-day" injury, forcing Kansas State to gameplan for the wrong quarterback. Just masterful strategy from all parties in blue.
I hope Miller impresses in enough capacity that Gardner moves back to the only position he has a shot to play on Sundays, wide receiver.
Ummmm, who the fuck is Miller, and what the fuck are you talking about?
Except he played hockey. And graduated in 2009.
Jack Miller. If Jack is a better center it will be due to his unique chemistry with Shane. The staff, with this duo under center and at QB will have no other choice but to move Gardner to WR.
That said, this thought about it just being turf toe and smoke from Hoke is hokum.
I remember my first spiked eggnog as well...
"hope Miller impresses in enough capacity that Gardner moves back to the only position he has a shot to play on Sundays, wide receiver"
This guy is why they didn't recruit a second QB to compete with Shane Morris. Thanks for your insider on this...
and your idiotic, purposefully inflammatory avatar name.
Not surprised but amazed. He always wanted to be a QB at UM and play in the Game. He did all he could to will that team to a W and I'm so proud of the effort.
For all of the bitchers of the last play in particular "why didn't Borges give him a run/pass option?" yada, yada, yada
Maybe, just maybe the staff knew he was hobbled and made the call. But of course, nobody who bitched about it will fess up.
Shane is very capable of doing well. Might be a little nervous at first and I'm sure the staff knows that and will take it into consideration. Also, don't be suprised if Shane runs a bit... he is not slow and can take off when necessary.
I think a lot of people suggested that very thing at the time. Don't need conformation today that Gardner was playing through injury by the end of that game.
sideline reporter say he met with OL during the game to tell them he was going to need them because he couldn't run? Maybe I heard that on the radio broadcast. Regardless, it was a hell of an effort.
that go right into michigan lore.
sucks we didnt win, but this is the kind of thing that 30 years from now people tell their kids "i remember watching DG throw for 400 yards against ohio on a broken foot..."
heal up DG and bring us back to the promiseland next year...
Wow, impressive that he played so well despite being obviously hobbled. Now lets cheer on Morris and hope we can pull out a win sat.
Yes. This so much.
Kid has heart. Looking forward to him with a better line next year.
...on 4th down. I was clearly wrong...especially in light of Gardner's broken foot. The coaches have a little (err a lot) more insight when making decisions on the field. Gardner is one tough SOB...much respect.
I'm going to be a little pessimistic on this one. I am a believer in DG and feel he could be a wonderful QB for us next year provided he cuts down on turnovers and makes better decisions. I was never in the benching bandwagon for him in favor of Morris. The reason why is simple, I don't think Shane is ready. My prediction is our offense will look extremely anemic and will struggle. Take that with a grain of salt, because I have not watched KSU defense at all this year. If they are average and we can't run the ball, it's going to be a long day.
He could well have a 2012 B1G ring on his finger right now if Denard hadn't gotten hurt. We would have only had to beat a 4-4 Wisconsin team in the BTCG.
Until a little while ago, I just figured that Michigan was experiencing the normal amount of bumps and bruises that one would expect after playing 12 football games. Then I perused USAToday's odds matchup for tomorrow's game. Michigan has 11 players listed with injuries; KSU has two. Is KSU lucky? Is Michigan just unlucky -- or more forthcoming? Is there an issue with Michigan's field or its training? If my memory serves, Michigan had very few injuries in 2011, but last year there were a number of minor injuries plus injuries to Countess, Fitz and, of course, Denard. This year the number of ACL's alone was alarming. Anyone have some insight?
what a stud.
and if the team had just converted on the 2 point, it would be legend - approaching the bloody sock even.
Kudos to Gardner for playing as well as he did. I don't know many players who could have done what he did hurt in that game.
Hopefully the Univ. of MIchigan medical school will get right on this case to heal up the bones super fast.
the stuff legends are made of.....
The rugger in me absolutely loves that DG ignored the pain and did what he could do to help his team's effort. No self pity or drawing attention to himself. Tough it out, and if you can go, go. Not even bringing it up himself afterward. He's won my respect for the toughness he's shown this season.
I have to believe that a few guys in the 1930-40s played with a broken bone somewhere, just to win one for the team. Devin obviously demontrated the willpower and pain tolerance of anyone from Harmon's era. While 7-5 was an ugly season, can't fault a guy like #98 who led us back twice (down 14 to tie and down 7 late).
As for the 2-pt play, would have liked to seen a different PASS play given OSU had time to see out 1st formation - but hey if KALIS HAD HELD HIS BLOCK A SECOND OR TWO LONGER Gallon might have broken open. Devin got hit right after the pass by a guy who blew past Kalis. Hopefully, Kalis is a lot better next year and lives up to the hype.
Wow. I called Devin Gardner out for lack of toughness before. I apologize to the young man.
Painful yes, valiant yes, but broken foot sounds perhaps worse than it was. BUT the key was that on the 2 point conversion, Devin had 3 different options - one was a Qb run which was open, but he probably ruled that out due to lack of mobility. Still Devin has been a warrior and model citizen all year and deserves every UM fan's 100% support.
eating cheetos, drinking beer, and declining to go for a run because it's cold outside nonetheless pronouncing in all seriousness that a highly-trained athlete who has very large men trying to take his head off on every play is "soft."
for toughness, but this puts him in a legandry company.
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Good God, DG is a beast. Amazing.
If we would have won, it would have gone down as one of the most legendary performances of the modern UM era.
That's a real tough guy.
As for the pronouncements I don't particularly care if Hoke soft-pedaled it as turf toe or if it's turf toe with a fracture not diagnosed until later or a garbled translation - I don't see this as an honesty/integrity issue for the coach.
Of course, I think there's not much a coach can say about this sort of thing that is an honesty issue - the only one that comes to mind is contradicting a player to his detriment i.e. Player says the pain is too much, but Coach says he's good to go unless he's a sissy.