Valenti is actually worth listening to
He's currently ripping Izzo on 97.1 and saying that Beilein has passed him as a coach. I've got my popcorn ready.
January 28th, 2015 at 5:13 PM ^
Theres only so many to go around. You could be Chicago with Cutler or Buffalo with Orton real fast
January 28th, 2015 at 5:25 PM ^
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January 28th, 2015 at 5:54 PM ^
You are on quite a roll of dumb.
January 28th, 2015 at 10:08 PM ^
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January 29th, 2015 at 6:06 AM ^
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January 28th, 2015 at 5:57 PM ^
Orton had better defenses with the Bears than Stafford had this year and was average at best. The only time he got the Bears to the playoffs, he was benched at the end of the season. His QB rating was the lowest in the league. Stafford has better career numbers. And for all the crap Stafford gets, his postseason numbers are better. It's only two games, but it's two more than Orton.
January 28th, 2015 at 6:37 PM ^
Stafford's career numbers are HORRIBLE. That must mean Orton is pure garbage.
January 28th, 2015 at 7:20 PM ^
He has thrown for 21,714, 131-85 TD-INT ratio, and completed 1,848 out of 3,099 passes. Those aren't great or elite numbers, but they are solid. What also must be kept in mind is that he has played on some pretty awful teams and missed most of his first two seasons.
Does he need to get better? Absolutely., Stafford needs to make a jump next season. But he is a solid QB. Certainly the best I've seen as a Lions fan.That isn't saying much, but I'd rather have Stafford than not at this point. Unless there is another Luck out there I'm content with him for now.
January 28th, 2015 at 10:11 PM ^
I will bet you 5000 mgopoints that Stafford never wins a playoff game in his career.
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January 28th, 2015 at 10:22 PM ^
But abandoning the Lions for the Packers rather than hating yourself for still having hope about the Lions is one of the worst things it's possible to do in life.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:05 AM ^
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January 30th, 2015 at 10:41 AM ^
Fairweather fan much?
January 28th, 2015 at 9:30 PM ^
January 29th, 2015 at 12:39 PM ^
I watched a lot of Lions games this year and a lot of Bills games as well. Stafford is clearly better than Orton and if you think that's up for debate then you didn't watch any Bills games this year. Buffalo would've made the playoffs easily with Stafford at the helm. They were within sight of it with a great D and basically no offense.
Be careful what you wish for
January 28th, 2015 at 5:19 PM ^
But he's still the best Lions QB since Erik Kramer.
January 28th, 2015 at 5:24 PM ^
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January 28th, 2015 at 5:38 PM ^
and wrong statements written in a single thread.
The Lions problems this year was a poorus offensive line and a terrible offensive coordinator. Anyone who watched the games could see that Lombardi was overmatched.
Matt Stafford does not suck. He isn't great, but he does not suck. Sucking is Joey Harrington, Bob Gagliano, Rusty Hilger, Rodney Peete, Scott Mitchell save for one year, Eric Hipple, Daunte Culpepper, etc, etc.
January 28th, 2015 at 6:30 PM ^
Someone who throws for 5,000 yards in a season doesn't suck. Someone who throws a winning TD with no time left on the clock to win the game with a seperated shoulder does not suck. Reggie Bush sucks. Raiola sucks. The rest of the O line sucks. The secondary sucks.
You forgot:
- Gary Danielson
- John Witkowski
- Chuck Long
- Andre Ware
- Don Majkowski
- Mike McMahon
and passable (no pun intended) QBs who came to Detroit to die
- Joe Ferguson
- Frank Reich
- Jeff Garcia
- Jon Kitna
The only team worse for QB ineptness is Cleveland.
smh... I'll never understand the loyalty fans have for the Lions under Ford ownership. Complete garbage for 57 years... and it's much more than Matt Millen; how easily people forget about Russ Thomas.
The Lions drove the best RB in the history of the game into an early retirement.
January 28th, 2015 at 7:08 PM ^
I remember when the Lions got Ty Detmer from the Browns(in 2001) and he ended up throwing seven interceptions against them.
January 28th, 2015 at 7:32 PM ^
I forgot about Ty. Add it to the list. Ha!
January 28th, 2015 at 7:15 PM ^
Quin, Idigbo, and Slay were all outstanding. Mathis held his own. Their problems were at nickle where they lost their top two DBs early in the season.
January 28th, 2015 at 10:06 PM ^
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January 28th, 2015 at 6:34 PM ^
As a Rams fan, get the hell outta here. I'd give a toe for Stafford. He's not the best, but he's well above average.
EDIT: Sorry, this was to the dude saying Stafford is garbage.
January 28th, 2015 at 10:02 PM ^
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January 28th, 2015 at 5:07 PM ^
4 years ago, he was right....now, he is paying his respect.
January 28th, 2015 at 4:47 PM ^
Izzo has over judged his recent recruits or hasn't coached them up much the past couple years. He over coaches like an NBA coaches who wish to be the star of the game - Along with Beilein, Bo Ryan does a nice job of letting is players play imo.
Valenti also said he doesn't want to hear Izzo crying about injuries. Where have we heard that before?
January 28th, 2015 at 5:07 PM ^
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January 28th, 2015 at 5:18 PM ^
When it comes to making foolish or asinine statements Mike Valenti is a Hall of Famer. He is paid to troll and that is what he does.
January 28th, 2015 at 5:23 PM ^
I would much rather listen to Valenti than Ira on WTKA. There is a reason Ira is on AM radio.
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January 28th, 2015 at 5:33 PM ^
Tom Izzo has been to 6 Final Fours, won a national title, and seven Big Ten titles. Comparing Izzo to Hoke is like comparing Thomas Edison to an Orangutan. Tom Izzo is a legitimately great coach.
Many Michigan fans knew he wasn't good choice. I hated the hire and so did most of the denizens of this board-including Brian. So no, not every Michigan believed that Hoke was going to lead Michigan to the promised land.
January 28th, 2015 at 5:39 PM ^
I would just replace Edison with Tesla and your comment is gold.
January 28th, 2015 at 10:01 PM ^
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January 28th, 2015 at 8:19 PM ^
big pile of cow shit and it splatters all over the person holding the hammer.
"Izzo = Basketball Hoke" is one of the sillier things I've heard in quite a while.
January 28th, 2015 at 5:22 PM ^
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January 28th, 2015 at 5:32 PM ^
Both he and Foster are terrible.
He disrespect all of his callers. Cuts them off if they disagree with him.
It's a rare occasion that you can listen to him for more than a minute. But it does happen.
He called the Harbaugh hire only because it would be the worst thing that could possibly happen to him as a Sparty.
January 28th, 2015 at 5:57 PM ^
i get tired of all the msu stuff. kind of little to much for me. i know he loves msu but enough is enough. he does a good job sticking up or cutting down msu. that is the way to do it. the right way. just to much is to much.
January 28th, 2015 at 6:03 PM ^
January 28th, 2015 at 6:13 PM ^
Spineless fools tend to blow with the winds pretty freely.
January 28th, 2015 at 6:34 PM ^
Here are a couple Valenti oldie but goody's.
When Drew Brees became a free agent years ago. Valenti was calling people crazy for wanting the Lions to sign him. Saying that NO WAY you spend that kinda money on a QB coming off a year with an injured arm. Then a year later after he threw for about 4800 yards for the Saints. He was on the air, saying that "if they would have done what I wanted, and signed Brees" They would be in the playoffs. Me and my buddy at work still text in to remind him of that..
Then my favorite. When the Tigers traded Urbina to the Phillies for a guy named Polanco. He destroyed Dombrowski. Saying "why would you trade your best bullpen arm for a 2nd basemen that Philly doesnt even want?" Guess he didnt realize they had a kid named Utley coming up in the system. And yeah Urbina was out of baseball a couple years later after basically killing someone, and Polanco became one of the best 2b in baseball that few years.
Dude gets good ratings, but Stoney once had good ratings. The sports radio in Detroit is awful. Give me Karsh, Sam Webb and Dan Leach. Everyone else can go..
January 28th, 2015 at 6:42 PM ^
Dan Leach??? Are you kidding me??? He is the biggest fanboy who thinks the Lions are great the Tigers are great Michigan does no wrong and neither does MSU.
January 28th, 2015 at 6:47 PM ^
He's entertaining at least. What the difference between him and 90% of the slappy's here? Would you rather listen negative dicks like Eric Thomas or Rigor? Or dorks like Stoney and Caputo? Leach is a slappy but the dude is a nutt and makes me laugh. Probably a love or hate kinda guy. But my buddy works in the buisness and says that a lot of people think that Leach is the next big thing.