Utah Snowflakes: Offense

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This will be the thread for providing your snowflakes and hot takes on the offense. 

ituralde

September 4th, 2015 at 12:46 AM ^

Gonna say that I'm not as pissed with Jake Rudock as I expected to be.  

First off, this loss is first and foremost on him.  He has at least a 17 point swing on his head. 

However, I really liked his final drive.  

He looks uncomfortable in a relatively safe pocket, I think on a number of his incompletions, he too quickly went to a low percentage early read.  It's hard to tell given the camera angles, but generally when you are throwing without pressure, you should be making a fairly reliable throw.  

The first pick was probably 75% on the WR.  That's a timed route, the WR needs to be where the fuck he's supposed to be.  

The second pick was an awful throw.  

The third pick was basically indefensible.  Not only was the opposite side of the field wide open, you can still put that pass in a place where only your guy is going to get it.  The Utah player had a great jump on it, but all he had to do was play Rudock's eyes and get the inside angle on the ball.  

Offense as a whole was REALLY good.  If they can ever click properly, this team will be super dangerous.  We finally have a coaching staff that gets constraints - they called plays outside to play against cheating inside.  They went deep (unsuccessfully only due to poor throws) after pulling pressure short.  With more accurate throwing, you could have seen a very good defense get completely picked apart.  

Overall, this season won't be super pretty.  However, we're going to be set up pretty nicely for next year, and will be scary to play against even later this season.  

HollywoodHokeHogan

September 4th, 2015 at 12:53 AM ^

              QB is the most important position on the field and Michigan has had bad ones for the roughly the past century.  Tonight Rudock continued the tradition.  The OL didn't look great in run blocking, but it's tough to get a running game going when the defense doesn't respect the passing game.  Rudock had at least 2 obvious opportunities to torch Utah and force them to respect the passing game.  He shit the bed on both.  Throw in two Morris-esque (Garden-esque, if you'd like) interceptions and that's the game.  Maybe Iowa benched him because he isn't very good.

The running game would be helped by backs with vision and/or speed, but Michigan has none of those.  Smith runs very hard at a very leisurely pace; Green is a bust; and Isaac might end up decent.  Johnson would be a big improvement, but I worry about him staying healthy. 

The upperclass WR looked good and Butt was great.  But we'll be "rebuilding" every goddamn year until we find a QB who doesn't pump out interceptions by the dozen. 

Dudeing around...

September 4th, 2015 at 12:53 AM ^

Pass blocking was good. Run blocking looked bad, but that was really just a rest of a stacked box/heavy defense and an offense that could not stretch the field (although we certainly tried).

Passing game will look better, and once it does the run game will immediately follow.

Cut the turnovers and we are fine. Only real concern is rudocks arm strength. May not have enough to get the ball into tight coverage downfield. Floats the ball a lot. Can't hit tight windows. But he does look heady and knows the situation. Compared to Morris, who is basically the opposite, I will take it.

Hopefully gentry/Malone can ft some useful experiment for next season

bigfan2959

September 4th, 2015 at 12:54 AM ^

Rudock looked pretty bad. Morris must be awful, and as bad as Hoke was I don't think he was moronic enough to not play Morris if he was better than Devin last year.  Smith looked terrible but seemed a bit better in the 4th.  I liked how Michigan seemed to keep playing hard right to the end and kept there composure.  Seemed like a much better outing in general.

HenneGivenSunday

September 4th, 2015 at 12:55 AM ^

I'm not a natural "Drake Johnson is the answer" guy, but I can't ignore that he seemed to make the appropriate decisions as a RB last year. I have to think that Smith would have had a bigger challenge being the "unquestioned leader" at RB if Johnson was healthy for all of fall camp.



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Bocheezu

September 4th, 2015 at 12:59 AM ^

Rudock had a terrible game, and I expect (hope for) better the rest of the season.  Running game improved in the 2nd half to almost servicable, after being complete hot trash in the first.  That failure on the 3rd/4th and 1 sequence just clouds the whole 2nd half run game after they were getting some OK 5-7 yard chunks.  

So many what-ifs in this game offensively; I can see how the offense is supposed to run, and it seems much more coherent and organized than last year, but the execution is just not there yet.

BleedingBlue

September 4th, 2015 at 1:03 AM ^

One concern- I feel like Kap and Smith have overthrown many deep balls in the same manner. I'm worried that is how Harbaugh coaches it. Throw it low and hard so the safety can't make a play. Total opposite of Borges ball... Hang it up there short. All three deep shots would have benefitted from the "hang it up" philosophy....



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Sopwith

September 4th, 2015 at 1:38 AM ^

First, I didn't read every post so I'm not sure if anyone is arguing that it's a total coincidence that all 3 INTs were targeting Perry. But it's not a coincidence. Here's where your route running can make a QB look brilliant or awful.

1st INT: OK, announcers picked up on this, it looked like Perry broke off the route and hooked instead of following through with the out. Most people on here seem to agree he was mostly responsible for that particular pick.

2nd INT: At first, I just thought this one was flat overthrown. It might have been, depending on the call, but I actually think it's more likely he was supposed to be running a corner and broke it too flat so it was more of a deep out. When you're running a corner, you're a) supposed to press the DB inside with a post step with your inside foot (left foot in this case) and little head bob over your inside shoulder to sell the post action, then break to the corner at a 45-degree angle. It didn't look like he did either of those things: the DB was on top but was never pressed inside, and just remained squatting up high exactly where the corner would go. The QB isn't waiting to see what his angle is coming out of the cut-- if it's a corner, he throws it exactly where Rudock threw the ball. 

So it's possible it was an overthrown deep out, but just as likely (and I think a little more likely) that he was expecting Perry to be about 5 yards deeper out of the cut. Rudock is an accurate passer-- that would be a completely wild throw to miss by that much, I'm just not buying it.

3rd INT: bad pick six, but the bad read probably should have just been a breakup, not a pick, if Perry doesn't "drift" after his cut. His route was what we used to call a "return" or square out where your body opens up to the QB instead of turning your back to make the out cut.  This is the route Greg Mathews ran on the winning pass from Tate vs. Notre Dame in 2009. The one thing you're never, ever allowed to do is drift upfield after the cut, because you give the DB an unobstructed lane inside of you to make the pick. The DB squatted on the route from the beginning and it was an unwise choice to force it in, but without the drift (one of the announcers caught that and called Perry out on it on the second or third replay) Perry is at least in a position to fight for the ball. 

You can see all the talent with Perry, but I thought he had opportunities to help Rudock out with better routes and didn't. I'm more willing to believe the instincts of a true freshman need some polishing more than I'm willing to lay it all on a 5th year senior with a rep for accuracy and lack of mistakes.

jsquigg

September 4th, 2015 at 1:56 AM ^

The offense will be better.  We have at least one guy who can take the top off of the defense and the offensive line will get better.  Developing chemistry takes time, and I'm not going to overreact when Rudock is having to get used to new teammates on the fly and the line is learning their third system.  The team didn't give up and if they keep getting better this season will still be a good one.  It just sucks to wait a week before they can get the bad taste out of their mouth.

DK81

September 4th, 2015 at 1:58 AM ^

I just keep thinking about Smith not bouncing it out on the 2nd and 2, looked like it might have been a touchdown instead of a cutback and no gain. At the very least a big gain and a first down. The next play was the pick 6 of course!



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UMFanstuckinOhio

September 4th, 2015 at 3:32 AM ^

Offense was a wreck.2 bad timeouts taken by the coaches showed miss communication on the play calls. Really felt like the team came out flat and not ready to go. Bottom line is you can not and will not win football games when you lose the rushing yards and turnover battles.The 2 most important stats in all of football.

Mr. Yost

September 4th, 2015 at 4:15 AM ^

3 INTs, 3 missed TDs

Ball game right there.

Even if all 3 are incomplete we're still squarely in the game.

A game of inches and you have to win the majority of those plays. Realistically, hit on 2 of the TDs and don't throw the pick six and we probably still win.

That said, Jake did command the huddle and I've seen enough to give him the start next week, but he's on a short leash. I plan to play both QBs all week and rep Morris with the 1's in practice some.

Smith missed one HUGE read, but he was by far the best RB of the 3. The OL still isn't any good a run blocking and Smith at least picks up tough yards (most of the time).

WR was better, but I don't play Perry on crucial downs at this point...can't have 3 INTs targeting the same WR and all be on the QB. Canteen or Cole in those moments.

OL fine at pass blocking - still dog shit blocking the run.

Leonhall

September 4th, 2015 at 9:14 AM ^

unless Shane has improved drastically...I don't see him playing. I don't see how he ever sees the field, I don't think he is a good D1 QB, again, I'm not Harbaugh, I trust him, you could be right too. I think it will be bad news if Shane plays. I wonder how David Dawson is not better than Braden? The team will improve throughout the year and probably win 7-8 and Utah will probably win 8-9. It's not like we opened with a MAC opponent.

Mr. Yost

September 5th, 2015 at 9:00 AM ^

You have no idea what football is talking about. And I'll take that Ace, Brian and the majority of people who matter on this board agree with me.

Smith missed 2 obviously holes, one was critical. He was head and shoulders better than Green and Isaac.

Isaac looks like he may be a better RB, but he also needs huges holes because he runs so high and doesn't break tackles.

Like I said before, he reminds me of Eddie George, only he doesn't have that OSU OL. Smith breaks tackles and gets yards after contact.

Green may even be the better pure RB. But he doesn't run as hard and with our OL he's a watered down version of Smith.

With a bad run blocking OL...you take the guy with speed and vision (Johnson) or the guy who's just going to run over people and through tackles (Smith)...I'd argue that if we had one of our all-time great OLs you'd actually take both of the other two RBs.

Regardless, Smith had a very solid performance. Don't tell me to watch the tape when you're in the minority and have no idea what you're talking about. How about you be willing to learn something?

Doctor Wolverine

September 4th, 2015 at 9:15 AM ^

QB: I think JR will be serviceable, which is about all that most of us expected. He is not going to win us any championships and is inaccurate on throws over 20 yards, but I thought he was decisive (no sacks?) and accurate on the short throws. The first pick was on the WR. The second was on JR. The third was a little on both (not the best route, but he stared the receiver down and needs to be able to go through progressions). If the TO issues continue, that would obviously be very concerning.
RB: I guess we will see in the UFR, but I thought there were quite a few instances where Smith had cutback lanes and chances to bounce it outside, but he chose to run into a big pile of bodies instead. I don't know if it is a lack of speed, or vision, but it is the difference between a 1-2 yard gain and a 10-20 yard gain. I don't think he is the answer at RB. I am hoping that Drake can get healthy again. I felt the OL actually blocked pretty well, the holes were there.

Durham Blue

September 4th, 2015 at 9:40 AM ^

I really think the first game nerves got to Rudock.  The overthrows on sure TD's, and other overthrows as well, are a sure sign that he was anxious.  He also made some nice throws and I am confident he will settle down and reduce the mistakes as each game passes.

Even with the turnovers and the loss, I think this team looks more polished and more organized than anything Hoke fielded.  They appear to finally have an identity and I have zero doubt that identity will be established and in full force by mid-season.  If nothing else, the WR bubble screens were a thing of beauty!

vulture

September 4th, 2015 at 3:11 PM ^

Postives:

No season-ending injuries.

No boneheaded penalties.

No boneheaded coaching mistakes.

It didn't seem like any of our guys were too little or too slow to make plays -- which would be a big problem because you can't fix that in a week.  To the contrary,when they did not make plays, it was because of the kind of mistakes that can be identified and corrected before the next game.

Coaches did a good job putting the guys where they belong on the depth chart.  It sucks, but  Rudock is a better bet than 5-star Morris.  Smith is a better bet than 5-star Green and new guy Isaac.  

The defense played great and so did the special teams.  The game was lost by the offense, but even so, the offense did some really good stuff.

There were some brilliant plays:  Wormly, Peppers, Butt.

A.  Running game:

No lost fumbles.  

The line created holes that were almost too good to be true.  A couple times even our own backs chose to believe the holes weren't there.

B.  Passing game:

There was a pocket and hardly any pressures / sacks.

The quarterback throws a nice catchable spiral, with good pace, and he stays composed in the pocket.

The receivers are capable of getting wide open, even on deep balls.

Hardly any incomprehensibly bad throwing decisions.  The pick 6 was bad but the db had to do some work to make it happen.

Hardly any dropped passes from receivers.  One incompletion to TE AJW was catchable and one incompletion to RB Smith was catchable.   

The more the qb and receivers practice together, the less likely it is that the receivers will run their routes wrong and as well, that the qb will overthrow them.

 

ford_428cj

September 4th, 2015 at 4:02 PM ^

Hopefully if Morris isnt cut out for it - Gentry can be ready to play soon. We seen what Cardale did - maybe Gentry could do the same.?