USF fan's perspective on UTLII (Spoiler: It's Glowing)
Don't like her
Miley won when you cared.
"...I don't think it means what you think it means."
Yeah, this doesn't feel like the right meme...
Why were you even there?
Should've just taken the death sentence...
Dunno what's up Marley's butt, that was a nice little article on an outsider's experience.
Considering the amount of vitriol spewed at us by other fanbases it is nice to see an outsider with a positive view of Michigan fans.
That makes me feel special inside.
Ahh, a post from an outside source praising Michigan and bashing Sparty. I love it.
How would you compare the stadium experience in 2011 to 2013? I was at the first game and while not the biggest game I have attended at Michigan Stadium, it was the most electric atmosphere I have experienced there. Was Saturday's game the same, better, worse, or just different? Details appreciated.
Wasn't at utl 1 so I too would like to hear comparisons. I can tell you this was the craziest I've ever seen. I was louder, by a very very large margin, than forcier to Matthews in 09 which is the only huge game I can personally compare it too
They were different because the games were different. In 2011, the crowd was taken almost entirely out of the game for almost 2 quarters. In 2013, the crowd was in the game the entire time, and I would guage that even the alumni were standing for at least 50% of the plays. However, 2011 had a crazier finish so the stadium was more electric at the end - so it depends what would you rather have, consistently electric or dead then KA-BOOM.
That's really what it comes down to in 2011. The electricity at the end of the game. UTL II was exciting at the end but it was just a victory formation. Denard went 80 yards in 28 seconds.
Other than that the place looked very similar. Oh, and it was definitely nice not getting taken out of the game in the first couple of drives.
2011 just had a different vibe in general. We'd never had a night game before and no one really knew what to expect from a Hoke-coached team, so people had guarded expectations. It felt more like an event than a real game. In the 3rd quarter, a lot of people felt, "Well, this game is crappy, but it's still cool being here." There was still sort of a festive atmosphere, which you don't normally see when Michigan is losing. But then when we came back in the 4th, then it felt like a big game and everyone remembered the importance of winning.
In 2013, we expected to win and felt the urgency from the get-go. It was still really cool to have the game at night and have all the attendent festivity, but if we had lost, the evening would have felt ruined, whereas in 2011 we may not have felt that way.
UTL 1 was definitely more electric. It got pretty loud on Saturday but nothing will compare to two years ago.
Halftime show this year was much better, and the pregame flyovers were better as well.
I was extremely disappointed in the post game celebration, the chicken dance song was played which was funny for 15 seconds, then it kept being played for 3 minutes which pretty much killed the buzz.
UTL 1 will never be topped IMO.
The chicken dance was hilarious for the first 30 seconds or so, but then it went on too long. They should've cut after a verse or two and just went to popular songs like they did after UTL1
But I figured that there was no way that II could possibly be better as a football game. It wasn't - there's no way to match 2011 in terms of energy and excitement, or volume for that matter. Where we were yelling plenty this time, in 2011 we were yelling and had the car keys out a la SEC. I do think that the overall production - and I've worked a lot as an arts presenter - was better this past Saturday, though. Everything was tighter this year, like the USF guy says - they had something going on that was substantive during every media timeout. That part was noticeable.
I missed a great video-doc piece like they did with Kanye West's "All of the Lights" in 2011 - that was very, very classy and well-done and they didn't have it this time. I also liked the video intro in 2011 better than this year, if only because it was a lot more fresh then.
No comparison on the half-time show.
but Mark Harmon didn't cry like Desmond did - will never forget that either.
They were different. The first game kind of sucked, outside of the night aspect, till we came back and had a magical fourth quarter. Lots of hype and a decent 'show'. The game this saturday, as one recruit aptly described, was like being at the Super Bowl. Lots of stuff going on, and we led throughout most of the game. I turned to my ND friend at the end and told himthat atleast UM thought the game was a big deal and put on the show.
For UTL I there was a better atmosphere in the stands towards the end of the game and afterwards. The end of that game was just pure chaos, though. After the game a lot of people stayed in the stadium to dance and enjoy the experience. I'm pretty sure some people rushed the field.
UTL II was clearly the better overall experience, though. Much better game throughout, and Michigan went all out to put together a great gameday experience. I'll never forget the ending of UTL I, but I'd say I had more fun at UTL II.
...no sarcasm whatsoever, I enjoyed reading both opinions on UTL I and UTL II. Keep rooting hard my friends.
"It was also another reminder in how far USF has to go. We'll get there someday and hopefully in my lifetime, but the gap is just so massive. And as readers of this blog can attest, we think it wouldn't hurt for us to take a few lessons from the big boys every once in a while. Sort of like dressing for the job you want, not the job you have."
Ya, sorry South Florida, but I'm pretty sure you will never be anywhere near that level. Nice write-up otherwise, tough.
...but that's what people said about the Miami Hurricaines when they hired Howard Schnellenberger. It's also what people used to say about Boise State, etc.
IMHO, Miami is not at the same level as Michigan. They had a sellout this past weekend, which was the first since 2010. This is Michigan!
By that theory only about 10 teams can ever "be like Michigan". Those that started football in the 1920s or earlier. THat is a point. What the respondants were saying was teams like Miami can have a 20 year run of dominance... they were the team of the early 80s through mid 90s; the bad boys/rock stars of college football. They accomplished a lot - are they Michigan or Notre Dame or USC or Texas or whomever? No. But winning multiple national championships, being known nationwide for a brand (ala Bad Boys of the Pistons) - any team can aspire to that even if they dont have 100+ years of football history.
They were mega-hot in the '80s/early '90s. They were the national "it" program. Not just becasue of the wins, but bacause of the style and swagger they did it with.
Give a team like Oregon a few NC's and they can do it too.
used to give tickets away by the thousands, just to make it look like people were watching Michigan Football.
That was an awesome article. Gave me warm fuzzies knowing how great Michigan football is...and made me sad that I only have four games left as a student (I have to miss the game this weekend).
Also, the contrast between the writer's experience in EL vs. AA is...I don't know...somewhat surprising? I love my school, but I always assumed that Sparty was somewhat comparable in terms of its game experience. Was it just the difference in importance of games, or are we really that much better?
Michigan has only had 2 night games in history and Brandon made this one a "Super Bowl lite" sort of affair. I am sure when MSU played ND at night it was an electric atmosphere and fun as heck to be there. Yes a smaller stadium and less of a traditional program but still I am sure all who went to that type of game had a hell of a time. This USF writer had just come back from experiencing MSU vs USF after a 1 hour delay due to weather, and watching a day time game, between perhaps 2 of the bottom 5 offenses in college football. It was dreadful for anyone to watch, much less be there. I am sure 20K fans either did not come back from the weather delay or after watching that offensive (pun intended) display by both teams for more than 20 minutes. There are plenty of fantasitic atmospheres found in Madison, Happy Valley, Columbus, et al. But this guy was comparing apples and oranges on that particular night.
It still feeds MSU insecurities and that's entertaining.
I agree with all that you said.
But what is noteworthy is that there has been a meme going around that Michigan has a dead atmosphere that is somehow inate to the program . . . that it is just who we are. We don't have it in us to have the killer environments they have at LSU, Oregon, etc.
WRONG. When we glam up and put on our little black dress, we're as hot as anyone out there.
All true, but if you read the comments, there are posters who attended Michigan games during the RR years and still were blown away.
I always assumed that Sparty was somewhat comparable in terms of its game experience
Back in my day (early 1980's and again in the early 1990's) I experienced both.
In this case it's a comparison of a noon game and a night game. And that's apples vs. oranges. Night games have a different feel about them because of the night surrounding the lit-up stadium.
In terms of stadium settings -- Spartan Stadium is in the middle of MSU's campus, which itself is quite separate from the town of East Lansing. It's very much a "on-campus" experience. Michigan Stadium's surroundings are more "college town" like. Both are preferable to a professional stadium set in the middle of an ocean of parking lots.
In terms of the stadiums themselves -- well, Michigan is bigger, of course. Spartan stadium has the sideline upper decks with relatively smaller endzone seating. One of the things that makes Michigan Stadium feel so big is the fact its a big bowl that goes on an on all the way around. I've never been to Ohio State's stadium, but it holds 100K+ and my guess is it doesn't feel as big as Michigan Stadium. Ditto Penn State and Alabama.
But again, the biggest thing is the noon vs. night factor. Switch the roles and have MSU play a big game against a big rival at night up in East Lansing and compare it to Michigan playing noon against a non-conference cupcake and the MSU night game would come away feeling "more electric."
Now, all that said ... Michigan made certain the UTL II night was extra special. So it's not just that it's a night game ... it's that it was a night game amped up.
Thanks for finding and posting. Awesome to hear other's experience and perspective. Easy for us to take for granted what we have, and even though we feel it, forget we have something special at UM. GoBlue!
"As a program and a fan base, they get it on every single level. It was an athletic department that knows what it's doing, right down to the ushers being gentlemanly and polite when I got too close to the walkway railing to take pictures from midfield. " - from the article
Much like the article a few days ago about ND players giving props to Michigan Stadium as a venue and a difficult place to play away, it is nice to hear football fans with no rooting interest give excellent reviews of the atmosphere. It definitely means that we're doing it right on most every meaningful level and that we serve as an example to others potentially.
Kinda-proof that 7NA is not loud. At the snap of this play it was downright quiet.
While it's definitely not not proof, you're a billion rows up on the opposite end of the field. I'd look for a better position in the stands before calling it "downright" quiet for that play.
Obviously it was in jest. No phone video is going to record the sound of a crowd with relative accuracy, let alone one in the 95th row.
However, if you think 7NA is loud, don't go to an SEC game. MSU (NTMSU) has cowbells ringing for every play from the end of the previous game through the snap. Our student section used to create noise makers and encourage screaming the entire time. Now we have 7NA that looks cool and sounds much quieter.
is to bother the pre-snap signals that the QB is calling to the line and receivers. After the snap - NO crowd is loud ....
Trust me, it's loud. Maybe not in row 90 or wherever this video was taken from, but I have first row seats and it's plenty loud. There's a big difference between two rows of people behind you yelling towards you and 90+ rows of people behind you yelling towards you. So down on/by the field, it's plenty loud. Just like the last UTL game, I had to yell to the person next to me the entire time for them to hear me. I am so proud of how the fans brought it the entire game on Saturday, including during 7NA.
so almost literally at the top of the bowl. How many rows are there? 98?
My seats used to be around 94, so 96 or 98 sounds right. I'm thankful every time I'm there though that my seats got moved to the first row years ago. Changes the experience completely.
"This was the non-USF portion of the trip so I'll try and keep the gushing to a minimum, but that game was a life-altering experience for a college football fan"
Brandon gets a lot of grief around here, and I'm no stranger to criticizing him from time to time, but this account is a testement to his marketing accumen.
UTL2 looked and sounded awesome on TV and I'm thrilled to hear it will be an annual thing.Hopefully we can line up some premier competition going forward to make it a kick-off classic type of thing where we get to keep all of the money.
I suspect there may even be a positive business case to offer some kind of a cut to big time opponents to attract them to sign up for a one and done ala the Jerry World experience, only better(doubtful but who knows). That may be a little unorthodox but I think it'd be a great way to replace ND and stick it to em a little bit.
Stanford or USC would be killer.
We only do regional rivals.
Not sure if that's sarcasm or not but regardless, I dont want a rival. I want a bigtime matchup for future UTL games. The exposure and street cred we get from playing high profile games early in the season is invaluable.
Are only done at Neutral sites or against lower teams. If we want the big boys, we need to schedule home and away's. I'm fine with this, as I would love to travel to some of the other college venues for contrasting game days.
1. I think that Michigan Stadium on saturday outdoes anything a pro football stadium can provide. It is outside, with the stars above you where football was meant to be played
2. The sideshow "gimmicks" melded perfectly with the game day experience from what I have seen. The halftime show with beyonce was huge, however, the main event was still the game. The airshow was both great and unexpected. I am guessing there were no races between a donut, bagel, and coffee during the game. (tip of the hat to DB)
3. The teams looked great in their classic uniforms. (again -DB)
4. I Love the look of the stadium. I am not a fan of tiers as I believe they don't look good. The continuous flow of Maize from Row AA to 90 and then to blackness just can't be beat. I also believe the lights are some of the coolest looking stadium lights on any stadium. I love the almost low profile look they give.
The UTL II game had to look even better (!!!) after a day at the East Lansing City Dump. I've heard that Purdue and Indiana have worse stadiums, but Sparty Stadium is the worst I've been to.
I've been to Purdue, it's worse, how can you go to a B1G stadium, enter in one end zone entrance and not be able to walk around to your seat? And when you leave that section, and they scan your ticket as your leaving, and you have to rescan it on the other end only to be told its a used ticket... If the stadium wasn't so empty I'm sure I would have had a harder time being let back in.
Wisky is pretty bad too. While Camp Randall is intimidating inside - what with the steep bleachers, the cocoon effect of the building at the end, and the Jump Around - it is almost impossible to get to your seats. You spend an hour just entering and leaving and entering gates around the stadium finding the ONE set of stairs or single ramp up to the nosebleeds.