Useless ESPN Bowl Projections Week 12
I don't see a game in which we would be favored to be honest. Pretty brutal bowl season again for the B1G it looks lke.
But when is the last time the B1G has actually had a good bowl season when largely playing SEC / pac schools?
- Wisconsin 20, Miami 14
- Penn State 19, LSU 17
- Ohio State 26, Oregon 17
- Iowa 24, Georgia Tech 14
- Texas Tech 41, Michigan State 31
- Auburn 38, Northwestern 35
- Iowa State 14, Minnesota 13
I think whoever plays Iowa State may be the B1G's best shot at a bowl win, whether its MSU or Minnesota.. They aren't that good.
I think Taylor Martinez is going to get killed against Stanford.
The Stanford front 7 completely shut down the Quack last night.
His stats weren't terrible, but he played poorly relative to the rest of this season. Credit goes to Stanford D, but the pressure and inexperience of being a freshman seemed to catch up to him.
I don't think the same would be true of Martinez. Remember a similar style of spread offense allowed Oregon to shred Stanford the last two years
are vastly over rated. They played nobody except Stanford and we see how that went.
They have pretty looking 'O', but when they get smacked in the mouth, they are done. Plus they have no 'D'.
I wouldn't mind beating Tebow and Manziel in consecutive Capital One Bowl appearances.
Hopefully, we get a BCS at large.
Last night really killed those hopes. Oklahoma has to lose again, or there is absolutely no shot.
Shoelace vs Johnny Football? Interesting matchup
Damn you MSU, PSU, Minny, and Iowa. Damn you to hell
I'm trying to understand this and struggling. A little help?
They all lost to Nebraska which would have helped us get to the BTCG.
Iowa hasn't lost to Nebraska....yet
But they're going to on Sat
I guarandamntee you they don't lose on Saturday!
Me too..... Because they're not playing on Saturday!!!! Lol
Apparently, on friday.
You never know, Iowa could stun us all. Stranger things have happened.
How many people thought Iowa would beat Michigan last year? Strangers things have happend so don't count them out. Maybe Nebraska is expecting the same thing an easy walk in the park and trips up. I'm hoping so because I don't want a big ten champion team that gave up 62 points
Iowa hasn't lost yet.
Yeah, but the big problem is we did, too.
You could damn yourself because you lost to Nebraska too. I damn that tattoo parlor all the time. Solid back seven, it has.
At least we aren't playing a Texas team in Texas or a Florida team in Florida. Make our opponent have to travel a bit.
I'd watch that
Interesting...I wouldn't mind a chance to see Johnny football
I'd like to see what happens if Johnny Football met JMFR.
We want florida state to beat florida Saturday if we want to avoid A&M. I like Michigan's chances better against floirda, a team who struggled against the mighty ragin' cajuns of lousiana-lafayette. Rather than the team that beat alabama, in alabama.
You want to avoid A&M? So much for playing the best teams and beating them..... Go ahead and flag this flamebait or trolling all you want but this discussion is pathetic.
They're better teams, right? It's really just a rational analysis of where we are as a program right now. College football isn't as parity driven as the NFL. And Michigan isn't fully back to being MICHIGAN yet. When we're there, sure, lets see some great games on equal footing.
But I think people would rather see a good game, with a chance to send Denard and the rest out winners, and build on for next year than see a repeat (either figuratively or literally) of the Alabama game to start the season. As results go, what do you think was more beneficial to the direction of the program? Losing to Mississippi State so badly everyone in America turned it off by halftime, or the Sugar Bowl in OT last year? If we had gotten someone way better than VT and they had beat our brains in, would that have been a better outcome for us because we'd have been "more manly"?
You know how you get to take on the best team? Be in the national championship game. Then you're going to get the best for sure. Or at least get to Rose Bowls. How do you do that? Win more games. And you win more games by winning more games, not by losing them on New Year's Day. It can set you up for a glorious upset. But I'm not sure the risk-reward falls on your side of the ledger.
When giving a ridiculous example why stop at the Atlanta Falcons? Bring on the 85 Bears!
Michigan was in trouble Vs. Alabama when in every interview you heard about what an honor it was to play the defending national champs and what a measuring stick it would be for the program. They didn't expect to win that game , Texas A&M did. What you did last year means nothing this year in college football. You hear hoke say it all the time but for some reason it was different with Alabama. All Alabama had to do at that point was show up
Give me Alabama again! Why so scared?
Will lose to Iowa this weekend.
At least the Hawks seem to play better at home. Plus they may be up for the game since it is a rivalry game--corn bowl!
Except that Iowa lost to Iowa State, Central Michigan, Penn State and Purdue at home this season...but other than that...
OSU has a winning record, but no bowl wants them....ohhhhhhh wait
If you used the most recent Sagarin ratings to estimate how much teams were favored, the table below would be the result. It is important to note that in no case did the Big Ten team have the higher rating in the model. As they would be neutral site game, I did not add or subtract 3 points for HFA.
|Rose Bowl presented by Vizio||Nebraska vs Stanford||5.6||Nebraska vs Stanford||5.6|
|Capital One Bowl||Michigan vs Texas A&M||7.19||Michigan vs Texas A&M||7.19|
|Outback Bowl||Wisconsin vs Florida||12.17||Wisconsin vs South Carolina||7.96|
|Taxslayer.com Gator Bowl||Northwestern vs Miss. State||0.6||Northwestern vs Miss. State||0.6|
|Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl||State vs Oklahoma St.||9.51||State vs Iowa St.||2.27|
|Meineke Car Care Bowl of TX||Minnesota vs Iowa St.||9.19||Minnesota vs Texas Tech||11.66|
|Heart of Dallas Bowl||Purdue vs TCU||8.87||Purdue vs TCU||8.87|
I was looking at how this would go if OSU and PSU were eligible. OSU would currently be slotted in the MNC; Penn State would slide into one of the Florida bowls and everyone below would slide down a spot. Whoever played Miss State would be a slight favorite (unless it was PSU, that would be a tossup); whoever played Iowa State would be favored; everyone else would still be an underdog. Northern Illinois would, by Sagarin, be at least a TD better than Purdue or Minnesota in the Pizza Bowl.
I suppose it's more likely that there'd only be one team in a BCS bowl and we could empty the Rose Bowl or MNC slot and move everybody down one more. That would help, but not enough. There simply aren't any available opponents as bad as Purdue or Minnesota, and it doesn't matter who's in the Cap One or Outback, the B1G team is going to be a big underdog. No matter how it shook out, only the teams playing Iowa State and Mississippi State would be favored.
I was trying to tell myself the bad conference year is just because two of the better teams can't go to bowls. I was wrong.
Ohio, if eligible, would not go to the MNC game as a one loss team.
Or even a two-loss team after they lost the B1G championship game.
But the premise here is this week's two sets of ESPN projections, and right now they'd be projecting an Ohio St./Notre Dame MNC.
I would like to see usin a game where we can really prove something
I'd like to switch with Sparty and head down to Tempe. Beautiful women, easier opponent, and golf.
Yes I hear there is no golf or attractive women in FL.
Never mind, LSA already did this. Should have read the rest of the thread.
Would be a formidable opponent.
... a likely victory. We could beat them - I have confidence in our coaches - but they went into Alabama and took a team that destroyed us. We would have to play very well to beat them and we won't have Toussaint; we might not have Morgan or Denard at QB.
That's an uphill climb against a team rightly favored by a TD or more.
AgreedTexas A&M has been a juggernaught lately.
I dont know - for me unless it's the Rose bowl or NCG I like to see Michigan play interesting teams. A&M is among the most interesting in the country due to their QB. So I'd enjoy that matchup even if it would be a very tough game. If they lose so what, it's not a Rose Bowl Championship or national champtionship, its 1 extra win or loss in an "above average" season but not great season. I don't get all the consternation - it's going to be a grab bag of Florida, South Carolina, or A&M - FL is a sham this year and SC's best player is hurt.
When do they officially announce who is playing in what bowl game?
Unless Florida does bomb out the rest of the way, I find it hard to believe that a Florida bowl game like the Capital One would pass on the Gators for a team in Texas if they were both of similar record and interest. And the Cap One hasn't had them since we last played them there (in what they think was their best game ever there).
But since I wouldn't want to see Alabama again, maybe the team that beat them isn't exciting me either. But they're all going to be tough.
A&M is, right now, of uncommon interest. If they don't lay an egg against Missouri I think they'll get the best bowl they're eligible for.