USC CB May Not Be Telling The Truth About Drowning

Submitted by michchi85 on

Coach Sarkisian has received a few contradicting stories about the events of the drowning.  Looks like this story may not be over, and it's not looking good for Josh Shaw.

 

Sarkisian says he has received contradicting stories on Shaw and what happened. He said team is investigating.

— Arash Markazi (@ArashMarkazi) August 26, 2014

Everyone Murders

August 26th, 2014 at 5:19 PM ^

In addition to injuring yourself, you could potentially injure others in or around the pool or pool deck.  And jumping into a pool from anything other than a diving board or the pool deck is a good way to kill or paralyze yourself even if you're doing for nothing more than seeking a thrill.  See, for example, virtually every Spring Break.

The interesting thing is that drowning doesn't look like most people think it does.  It does not usually involve a bunch of thrashing around - it is often a deceptively "quiet" event, with maybe a bit of bobbing around, and then the swimmer not coming up.  See HERE for details, and it could save a life! 

Cali Wolverine

August 26th, 2014 at 5:09 PM ^

made later in the thread and not in response to Gucci's comments. At this point I am going to wait until the facts come out before I make any further comments on Shaw. Again my neg and all of the other negs (and apparent premature trip to Bolivia by the higher ups) were made in response to the insensitive part of the initial comment that you do not seem to grasp.

Big_H

August 26th, 2014 at 2:24 PM ^

I completely understand that. It did come out kinda the wrong way from him. I do believe that the kid could have died in that time. Definitely if you have ever heard of Dry Drowning. Which is something I don't know enough about to explain, but it's basically someone who has taken in water, then stills dies later or something along those lines.

 

I still feel people jumped on Gucci way too hard and fast, when no one knew anything yet. Not really trying to defend every word he said, but we need to judge with a little more precaution is all.

ChasingRabbits

August 26th, 2014 at 2:14 PM ^

I am not currently and further more, have never actually chased a rabbit. 

 

I do throw tennis balls at them from time to time....  don't judge, they F up my garden!

BlueDragon

August 26th, 2014 at 2:19 PM ^

I have a lot of problems with the way mods and mgmt run this site but I keep coming back for the community, and the well-stocked weight room.

I'm not really a dragon, more of a chipmunk. Also I ragequit watching Michigan or Browns games if the stupidity / futility threshold has been crossed.

ijohnb

August 26th, 2014 at 2:21 PM ^

kid was floundering in the water, and this guy took decisive action to save him, I really don't need to know any more of the details.  Unless there was like a booster there who slipped him some cash for his heroic actions, what more could come of this story that would really alter it meaningfully?

nerv

August 26th, 2014 at 2:30 PM ^

I think the point is that it is looking more and more like the detail of the drowning boy was fabricated. If the actual details turn out to be the kid was partying and wanted to show off his ability to do a triple salchow off his balcony I would go ahead and presume that this story would be altered meaningfully.

JClay

August 26th, 2014 at 2:34 PM ^

I actually played football at UM and just made up a random username so I wouldn't get hounded by fans on here. I'm Shonte Peoples.

Sopwith

August 26th, 2014 at 2:39 PM ^

But the Joe Delaney story I posted on the original thread is legit even if the USC story ends up falling apart.  Reposting here just because I think everyone should know this story.

Younger readers may not remember a beautiful but tragic act of heroism by a great football player named Joe Delaney, a gifted young RB who played for Kansas City, AFC Rookie of the Year in '81, died at age 24 after jumping into a deep pit of water to save 3 drowning boys even though he couldn't swim (he successfully pulled one out, the other two died with him).  Blurb from Wikipedia:

Joe Alton Delaney (/dɨˈlni/; October 30, 1958 – June 29, 1983)[1] was an American football running back who played two seasons in theNational Football League (NFL).[2][3] In his two seasons with the Kansas City Chiefs, Delaney set four franchise records that would stand for more than twenty years.

He was a two-time All-American athlete for the Northwestern State Demons football team, as well as a track and field star. Delaney played two seasons with the Chiefs and was chosen as the AFC Rookie of the Year in 1981 by United Press International.[3]

Delaney died on June 29, 1983 while attempting to rescue three children from drowning in a pond in Monroe in northeastern Louisiana. He was posthumously awarded the Presidential Citizen's Medal from U.S. President Ronald W. Reagan. While not officially retired, his jersey number while playing for the Chiefs, #37, has not been worn since his death.[3]

Short 2012 writeup here worth a read:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/29/remembering-joe-delaney-29-years-later/

2003 SI story by Rick Reilly:  (WARNING: have a tissue ready)

http://www.si.com/vault/2003/07/07/345894/no-ordinary-joe

Cool little video--including stills and NFL highlights--put together by a 9-year old special-needs student for a class project (with a little help from his mom):

 

MGoUberBlue

August 26th, 2014 at 2:58 PM ^

I am not an Uber Taxi driver.

Honest.

But the last time I jumped from a second story down down to concrete, my ankles did not hurt at all.........just to be honest.

Did you really think my ass has nipples?