ESPN is reporting on the boob tube that USC' 2004 title is being taken away. I would link but it has only come across the news feed on tv so far.
fair point that
Obviously I love any amount of pain coming from Columbus, but there's also an "entertainer and icon" out there who might go down the Tressel route in local perception.
Not that he cares...
Thank You sir. I just thought to search for a non ESPN link to add, beat me to it.
"too many men on the field" penalty.
How pissed would you be if you were Texas and 2005 had swung by even four points? I can't even imagine that, that'd be even worse than the time Tressel stole a BCSCG appearance from us in 2006 for the same offense.
He stole Christmas from Michigan from 2004 to 2010.
He stole the Who-Hams! He stole the Roast Beast!
Stealing the Roast Beast was wrong but it was taking the log for our fire that was truly low.
I'd take our chance against Florida for an NC supplemented by my own personal bias any day.
Just imagine how 2004 Auburn feels. They went 12-0 and got snubbed in the poils.
(Then again, they won an ill-gotten title in 2010 to even up for it.)
Bitter fanatic? Yea, definitely sounds like me. There are multiple former players who's allegations date back to at least 2006. Couple that with SI saying it's a pattern stretching back years and it's becoming clear that Tressel's entire term as OSU HC has been tainted with players who should never have seen the field.
I know how much you hate Lloyd Carr, but you honestly think that he would have allowed something as major as cash, drugs and tattoos for equipment out of the school's locker? Or signed warm-up suits of current players?
Good. As it should be.
Cheater Vest & the bums from C-Bus, OH are next in line. The Ncaa is coming for you !!!!
It was the BCS, not the NCAA, that made this decision.
Cue Auburn fans claiming the National Title in 3..2..1...
Too late. It's been going on for months.
Oh the irony knowing they've probably been running a shady program even longer.
What about wins during that year? Were they all vacated as well?
Besides the last three years, I think there is an argument to be made that Ohio's edge could have been because of playing players who were ineligible. It would be nice to erase some of those losses... Not to say we shouldn't have beat them on the field regardless, but I hate how cheating has tainted this rivalry, and think they should be held accountable to the utmost degree.
They say its all over except for the crying?........Well C-Bus??? Start crying.......Hurray for the NCAA. Go get them including Gee.
That's what they get for appealing.
OSU come on down...
Strip their 2003 rose bowl victory too! I know reggie wasnt there, but snoop dogg was! I want that win, dammit!
2004 Rose Bowl, and he was there. It was his Freshman season. http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=240010030
Are Clarett's escapades enough to be declared inelligble for 2002 (or did that already happen)? Along with any other potentially inelligble players could this mean a 2002 title strip? My brain likes to jump on any and all USC/OSU comparisons of this nature. I would appreaciate anybody with real information/understanding of the similarities to let me know.
Does this mean Tom Brady will reclaim the Orange Bowl record for TD passes in the game with four since Matt Leinart's game (with five TDs) has now been vacated?
I believe, though I could be wrong, that the Orange Bowl itself would also have to make the decision to vacate that win in order for TB to officially get the record back. I would expect that, as it stands now, if you were to look through the official Orange Bowl record book, Leinart would still be on top. However, that might change. . . .
You know, in some ways this is completely pointless, but in other ways I'm really happy this is happening to USC. I mean the Fab 5's seasons got removed, but we all know what happened and that has been Michigan's basketball image for a LONG time and will be for a LONG time, but it at least sends the message that just because you get away with something at the time does not make it right
Dude gave back his Heisman and his association with the school. The problem is, he's still down in New Orleans enjoying a nice big juicy steak with some hottie on his Rolex - adorned arm, collecting a big fat NFL paycheck and a pension in the bank. Meanwhile, the coach and the AD who were in charge during that period are all gone, with virtually nothing impeding their ability to succeed at whatever they do. Now kids like Matt Barkley, Nick Perry, and the rest of the kids who were about 10 or 11 at the time pay the consequences.
I don't know why I'm on my high horse about the hypocrisy of the NCAA all of the sudden....it's not like I give a flip about the f'n Trojans. But as a dad of a kid who may or may not play at the next level, I'd be a little bitter seeing Reggie Bush on TV, all smiles and care free.
I hate that people can just waltz away without any NCAA jurisdiction over them. I don't think that it's right for the NCAA to bar the NFL from hiring someone like Pete Carroll, but one would love to see some justice served to the Tressels (after ditching Y-State) and Caliparis of the world. Some violations should, however, hit the school (incidentally, this should theoretically should work as an incentive for parents and prospects to vet for themselves that a school isn't likely to rack up some violations) and some should follow the coaches. With liberty and justice for all.
"If the USC/Oklahoma game never happened, does that mean Ashlee Simpson never performed at halftime?"