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March 8th, 2013 at 1:00 PM
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lonewolf371
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Ouch

Football coaches talking like football coaches? Whodathunkit?

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March 8th, 2013 at 5:59 PM
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Yup.

Yes.  It really was just coaches being coaches.  SBnation has the video:

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/3/8/4079900/ohio-state-kic...

Pretty unremarkable if you ask me.  Not sure why its getting all the attention.

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March 8th, 2013 at 6:38 PM
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Well

I detest Ohio and don't ever want to "defend" them, but it is rapidly becoming politically incorrect for coaches to actually coach.  I have a feeling Bo was really lucky to be coaching when he did, and not in this era.

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March 8th, 2013 at 6:50 PM
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Sunshine

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:01 PM
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Eh...

I mean, I never played college football but I played high school sports and if I went and got water during streches I think worse things would've been yelled at me.  

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:02 PM
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I deem this to be okay

I deem this to be okay so long as OSU doesn't make them run laps for loafing around or make them do any really hard drills as part of their conditioning process.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:02 PM
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I've yelled worse things at

I've yelled worse things at Michigan kickers...

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:34 PM
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I've yelled worse things at

I've yelled worse things at Denard, and I love him.

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:13 PM
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Your signature has

Your signature has a pleasing relevance to this topic for me.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:02 PM
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Non story

Is what this is

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:03 PM
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Is it time to raise the

Is it time to raise the points required to start a topic?

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:10 PM
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Not sure that would help

Maybe if we had something like if a thread gets a +/- more than -10 then it just gets automatically deleted or something

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:11 PM
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Situational

I applaud the effort to find something to pile on ohio for, but this one just didn't cut it.  Don't discourage him.  Let him burn out like the rest of us...

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March 8th, 2013 at 3:03 PM
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Time to raise points to be a

Time to raise points to be a USA Today writer.

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March 8th, 2013 at 5:04 PM
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No...it does not.   People

No...it does not.   People need to stop asking this question everytime a topic is started that they don't like

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:03 PM
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Posts like this...

just make us look like a bunch of whiney babies.  

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:03 PM
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Heh

Their practice facility sucks compared to ours.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:03 PM
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Who Cares?

He's a kicker.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:06 PM
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WHAT DO YOU NEED TO START A

WHAT DO YOU NEED TO START A THREAD FOR, SUNSHINE!

YOU ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF A KICKER ON THE BOARDS!

ARE YOU TIRED FROM TYPING LAME THREADS!?!?!

SACK UP, BUTTERCUP!

 

Seriously, the dude is coaching football. The kid is probably lazy and needed a foot in his ass. Have you ever played a sport?

 

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:06 PM
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Gibbons would simply have a

Gibbons would simply have a brunette deliver the water to him.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:07 PM
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How about a link?  Hard to

How about a link?  Hard to believe USA Today doesn't have better things to write about... probably happens everyday 100 times over.  No, that that makes it right.  But it also doesn't reach the threshold of national media coverage.

Strange.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:13 PM
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I thought there was a link...

I thought there was a link...

Edit:  There was a link for the video.  Myyyy baaaad.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:15 PM
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Lolwut?

State run?

Same company as Detroit Free Press...

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:09 PM
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The NCAA-

just needs to shut this program down.  That was a complete loss of instiutional control.  I can't wait to hear Dr. Gee cover this mess up..........

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:11 PM
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Easy folks...just relaying some info.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/03/08/ohio-state-coach-kicker-...

 

I will post under alternate identity next time, with Pink Pony and all.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:35 PM
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You posted about an OSU

You posted about an OSU article on a Michigan blog- your heart was in the right place.  I will upvote you because so many negs without one upvote is sad...

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:11 PM
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Come on. Please don't be stupid about this.

The only sensible repsonse I can think of is to drive internet traffic to Eleven Warriors, where they have the video of Kerry Coombs, doing his job as an Assistant Football Coach at the Ohio State University.  They love Kerry Coombs for a string of hyper-enthusiastic quotes, Tweets, and YouTube videos.

If Michigan had a Kerry Coombs, the MGoBoyz would be hanging on his every word.  He'd be a God, immortalized on a t-shirt.  He'd have his own YouTube channel.

Kerry Coombs is like a combination of Fred Jackson and R. Lee Ermey, except faster and made of nylon.

Enjoy.  Happy Friday:

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/03/20316/ohio-state-football-spring-practice-videos-the-legend-of-kerry-coombs-grows 

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:17 PM
#329
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My guess is Wisecrakker never

My guess is Wisecrakker never played sports.  I could be wrong, but that's my guess.  

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:26 PM
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True...

...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:07 PM
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Receipts or I don't believe

Receipts or I don't believe you. 

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:20 PM
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The news here

The news here is that USA Today thought that this was news.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:28 PM
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Excessive stretching is serious business.

Remember?

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:28 PM
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I talk like that to my 7yr

I talk like that to my 7yr old.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:31 PM
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The wussification of America

The wussification of America is on full display with the OP.

 

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:33 PM
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Good thing for OSU

Good thing the kicker is not a Boren. He would run off and cry to the press about the lack of family values at OSU under Urban, and he would transfer to Penn State (God knows UM wouldn't take him).

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:09 PM
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Let's settle that one, once and for all.

Justin Boren didn't leave Michigan because of salty language by the coaches.  God knows, the Borens -- all of them -- are no strangers to rough-and-tumble yelling.  It is, very ironically, part of their family.

And full credit to the Borens; none of them ever said anything about "yelling" in Michigan practices under the Rodriguez staff as a basis for Justin's departure.

What the Borens said, in their own homemade press release, was a cryptic line about the erosion of "family values" at Michigan.  Since nobody in the press knew quite what to make of that, they assumed "yelling in practice."  Why that assumption was made has always been a mystery to me.  Because the real reason was pretty apparent.  The real reason was that Zach Boren didn't get a Michigan offer, as all the Borens hoped and expected.  And they were so pissed, and so frosted that the Boren family history with Michigan sports (Father/Mike, Mom/Hope, Big Brother/Justin) didn't warrant at least a legacy scholly for Zach, that they yanked Justin out of Michigan's football program in a rage.  "I won't have my two sons playing for two different universities" was the closest thing we ever got to an explanation from Mike.

Justin Boren was a good football player and we missed him on our O-line.  Zach Boren got the last laugh, switching from FB to LB and becoming an OSU captain.  Rich Rodriguez was fully justified; his offense didn't use a FB.  And nobody, not even Jim Tressel, figured Zach as a LB in college even though Zach played some LB in high school.  Lloyd Carr (who may have promised Mike Boren a scholly when he was recruiting Justin) remained his inscrutable.  And our old friend Michael Rosenberg covered himself in shame as always, by speculating about the nature of Michigan football practices that he hadn't attended even though they were open to the press (and so his colleagues knew that Rosenberg was not present).

Just another MGoDay.  Gald we could get this MGoMyth settled.

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:48 PM
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It was a joke

And if I'm perpetuating the myth, I don't really give a damn because he was still a little child about leaving UM. He could have been a man and said the real reason for going to OSU (which apparently you know) instead of the cryptic "family values" excuse for leaving. He created the myth by citing "family values" which only led to speculation by the fans and the media.

I'm not going to cry for Justin Boren. It's not like he is the model for taking the high road. See Rich Rod Halloween Costume.

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March 8th, 2013 at 3:03 PM
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I wasn't taking sides.

It is not a simple pro-Boren or anti-Boren equation.

I was trying to be accurate.  I don't think that it was helpful to Coach Rodriguez to use false excuses (fat... lazy... hates bad language...) to blame Justin Boren, who was a 20 year-old and a very potent Big Ten guard.

I always think that the nuanced story (nobody's perfect and there are two sides) is generally more credible than two-dimensional caricatures.  Problem is, simple caricatures are easier to spread, and they have more potency in the minds of a sometimes-disinterested public.

Anyway, it assuredly wasn't Justin who dreamed up the "family values" press release.  Whether Mike and Hope Boren had help, is beyond my knowledge.  People can like the Borens, or they can hate the Borens.  What people can't do, is to blame Rich Rodriguez for any "erosion of family values" because that was the one part that was beyond dispute; it wasn't true.

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March 8th, 2013 at 10:46 PM
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And you live here

Section 1 and hear the stories from locals?? Sorry wrong.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:34 PM
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I hate Ohio State as much as

I hate Ohio State as much as the next guy on this board, but clearly whoever wrote this article hasn't played sports, much less football, in his entire life. Coaches yell. They criticize. It's part of their job, and they're just doing it to make you better.



The only real news here is that USA Today thought this should be news.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:36 PM
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Old School

I like this.  Anything potentially bad for Ohio is good in my book.

Also, the issue is not that he's berating him during stretching. Sure that's normal. It's that he is denegrating the "kicker" role.  Where does the top kicker want to go as a recruit...the place where Coombs coaches..."your just a kicker."

Plus this is Old School.  

The New School approach would get him a blond or brunette....or in this case a red head.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:37 PM
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so is this kicker gonna quit the team now? or have

so is this kicker gonna quit the team now? or have his mommy or daddy call the AD and say coach hurt my babies feelings lol

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:38 PM
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are we at this point now?

Really, everything OSU does is evil and stupid and cheating and .....   What that coach said was nothing and it was funny.  

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:02 PM
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Agreed

I laughed when I watched this. Coach is just giving the player a kick in the ass to get going. Nothing to see here.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:49 PM
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Am I that old and out of

Am I that old and out of touch at 35 to be completely puzzled that this makes news?  Is it the 10 minute news cyle or do young people really think this is offensive? 

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:53 PM
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MEH

MEH

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:59 PM
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Coombs is an idiot...

Putting down a player just because he's a kicker is just plain wrong - has nothing to do with "pussification".  Putting down a player because he's drinking water is also wrong.  If a player needs water, then he needs water - don't deny him water.  The coach has no clue what the player is feeling - maybe the player actually NEEDS water.  

Coombs was an idiot for doing that.  Damon Webb, if you see this, this guy recruited you - decommit now and GO BLUE!! 

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:01 PM
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Coombs was smart not to berate a punter

A punter would have pulled a knife on him. We all know punters are bad eggs.

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:03 PM
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Victor Hale II
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Meanwhile, star players, such

Meanwhile, star players, such as the long snapper, are getting preferential star treatment from Urb within the infamous circle of trust.  This single video is obviously the beginning of the end for Urb and OSU.

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:03 PM
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Ohhh...I get it

The OP started this thread as a satirical piece.

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March 8th, 2013 at 5:42 PM
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BoFan
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Hey...

Nice Avatar

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:05 PM
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Coombs is saying the player

Coombs is saying the player needs to stretch because of his position. Neglecting stretching is basically the only way a kicker is going to get hurt. Coombs is looking out for him not belittling him.

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:10 PM
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This post...

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:18 PM
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Oh no! People being mean?

Oh no! People being mean?

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:45 PM
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Times sure have changed...

I remember my football coaches calling our DL a bunch of "mental midgets" (his words, not mine).  They sort of did give up 200 ypg rushing, so anyway.

The OL was referred to us a the "big, dumb and uglies" (again, coaches' words).

The skilled position dudes were called "princesses" or "glory boys" (i.e. needing frequent manicures and bubble baths after games).

Kickers? Well, our DE was our punter and PK and with a 47 yd punting avg and hitting 70 yd FGs in game warms up, coaches didn't swear much at our kicker.

Aren't football practices supposed to be a barrage of pejoratives? Most of us back then became callous to name calling and beratement from adult coaches by the time we were sophomores (16 yrs old).  It doesn't lift you up, but at some point it didn't tear you down much either. 

And water? If it was hot, we got water breaks. Otherwise, I remember it being mostly withheld until practice ended.

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March 8th, 2013 at 3:39 PM
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OP obviously never played

OP obviously never played football.

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March 8th, 2013 at 4:01 PM
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Soft.  One time my high

Soft.  One time my high school coach kicked me in the throat.  True story.

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March 8th, 2013 at 4:36 PM
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What I really want you to tell us...

What I really want you to tell us now, is that you were on the debate team.  Because that would be a good team with a coach like that.

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March 8th, 2013 at 4:44 PM
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Half Blood Dutc...
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Take a salt tablet

.....

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March 8th, 2013 at 4:55 PM
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A good kicker should know not

A good kicker should know not to take himself too seriously.

I have yelled much worse things in front of kids' parents, and they haven't said a darn thing.  Most people realize that when you're doing something wrong on a football field, you're going to get barked at for it.  There are certain lines you can't/shouldn't cross, but this is much ado about nothing.

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March 8th, 2013 at 5:50 PM
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Response to your "Edit:".

Response to your "Edit:". Bullshit. You didn't make any comments about sensationalizing nonsense stories. You sensationalized the story yourself.

Carry on.

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March 8th, 2013 at 6:13 PM
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.....

Water is wet, the sky is blue, grass is green and Coombs is Coombs. Non-story here and a waste of time by USAtoday. I've heard worst playing varisty sports. Carry on, nothing to see here! 

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March 8th, 2013 at 6:43 PM
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Next Topic

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