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USAToday running story about Buckeye Coach berating Kicker

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USAToday running story about Buckeye Coach berating Kicker

for wanting to take a water break during stretches.

"What do you need water for, Sunshine?" Coombs yelled. "We're stretching! And you're a kicker!"

Calling into question a player's toughness? Check. Demoralizing player during mundane task? Got 'em. Using a player's position in a derogatory fashion? Affirmative.

Coombs went for the football coach insult cycle by delivering a final death blow.

"Are you tired from stretching?" Coombs asked incredulously.

Here's video too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lEOw1RLCkC8

 

Editorial:  Obviously the reasoning behind this thread was lost to some of you.  I posted this to show how sensationalized the news has become. This is why the thread stated with "USAToday running story..."  I guess I had imagined a discussion of how the news over blows trivial incidents and everything at this level is recorded by any jackwagon with a Smartphone.  IMO the coach wasnt wrong to use the players position to motivate him, instead he needs to be aware not to do it when the whole world is watching and video taping it. Carry on. GoBlue.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:00 PM | Ouch (Score:5 Normal)
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Football coaches talking like football coaches? Whodathunkit?

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March 8th, 2013 at 5:59 PM | Yup. (Score:1)
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Yes.  It really was just coaches being coaches.  SBnation has the video:

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/3/8/4079900/ohio-state-kic...

Pretty unremarkable if you ask me.  Not sure why its getting all the attention.

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March 8th, 2013 at 6:38 PM | Well (Score:1)
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I detest Ohio and don't ever want to "defend" them, but it is rapidly becoming politically incorrect for coaches to actually coach.  I have a feeling Bo was really lucky to be coaching when he did, and not in this era.

 

 

 

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March 8th, 2013 at 6:50 PM | Sunshine (Score:2)
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March 8th, 2013 at 1:01 PM | Eh... (Score:5 Normal)
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I mean, I never played college football but I played high school sports and if I went and got water during streches I think worse things would've been yelled at me.  

Oprah's Minge.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:02 PM | I deem this to be okay (Score:5 Normal)
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I deem this to be okay so long as OSU doesn't make them run laps for loafing around or make them do any really hard drills as part of their conditioning process.

Hail.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:02 PM | I've yelled worse things at (Score:5 Normal)
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I've yelled worse things at Michigan kickers...

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:34 PM | I've yelled worse things at (Score:5 Normal)
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I've yelled worse things at Denard, and I love him.

Special Teams means special times!

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:13 PM | Your signature has (Score:2)
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Your signature has a pleasing relevance to this topic for me.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:02 PM | Non story (Score:5 Normal)
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Is what this is

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:03 PM | I really don't see much of a (Score:4 Normal)
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I really don't see much of a problem with this, berating might be a little harsh of a word in this instance.  

Lloyd Brady is my homeboy...for real he is!

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:03 PM | Is it time to raise the (Score:5 Normal)
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Is it time to raise the points required to start a topic?

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:10 PM | Not sure that would help (Score:5 Normal)
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Maybe if we had something like if a thread gets a +/- more than -10 then it just gets automatically deleted or something

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:11 PM | Situational (Score:5 Normal)
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I applaud the effort to find something to pile on ohio for, but this one just didn't cut it.  Don't discourage him.  Let him burn out like the rest of us...

The Team, The Team, The Team

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March 8th, 2013 at 3:03 PM | Time to raise points to be a (Score:4 Normal)
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Time to raise points to be a USA Today writer.

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March 8th, 2013 at 5:04 PM | No...it does not.   People (Score:3 Normal)
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No...it does not.   People need to stop asking this question everytime a topic is started that they don't like

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:03 PM | Posts like this... (Score:1 Trolling)
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just make us look like a bunch of whiney babies.  

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:03 PM | Heh (Score:4 Normal)
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Their practice facility sucks compared to ours.

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:03 PM | Who Cares? (Score:3 Normal)
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He's a kicker.

"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:06 PM | WHAT DO YOU NEED TO START A (Score:5 Normal)
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WHAT DO YOU NEED TO START A THREAD FOR, SUNSHINE!

YOU ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF A KICKER ON THE BOARDS!

ARE YOU TIRED FROM TYPING LAME THREADS!?!?!

SACK UP, BUTTERCUP!

 

Seriously, the dude is coaching football. The kid is probably lazy and needed a foot in his ass. Have you ever played a sport?

 

Strive to win. If you lose....win. 

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:06 PM | Gibbons would simply have a (Score:5 Normal)
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Gibbons would simply have a brunette deliver the water to him.

The Team, The Team, The Team

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:07 PM | How about a link?  Hard to (Score:2)
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How about a link?  Hard to believe USA Today doesn't have better things to write about... probably happens everyday 100 times over.  No, that that makes it right.  But it also doesn't reach the threshold of national media coverage.

Strange.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:13 PM | I thought there was a link... (Score:2)
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I thought there was a link...

Edit:  There was a link for the video.  Myyyy baaaad.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:15 PM | Lolwut? (Score:2 Normal)
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State run?

Same company as Detroit Free Press...

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:09 PM | The NCAA- (Score:3 Funny)
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just needs to shut this program down.  That was a complete loss of instiutional control.  I can't wait to hear Dr. Gee cover this mess up..........

O-Fo-Sho

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:11 PM | Easy folks...just relaying some info. (Score:1)
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/03/08/ohio-state-coach-kicker-...

 

I will post under alternate identity next time, with Pink Pony and all.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:35 PM | You posted about an OSU (Score:2)
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You posted about an OSU article on a Michigan blog- your heart was in the right place.  I will upvote you because so many negs without one upvote is sad...

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:14 PM | This Thread... (Score:4 Normal)
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So hot.  Milk was a bad choice.

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:11 PM | Come on. Please don't be stupid about this. (Score:2 Normal)
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The only sensible repsonse I can think of is to drive internet traffic to Eleven Warriors, where they have the video of Kerry Coombs, doing his job as an Assistant Football Coach at the Ohio State University.  They love Kerry Coombs for a string of hyper-enthusiastic quotes, Tweets, and YouTube videos.

If Michigan had a Kerry Coombs, the MGoBoyz would be hanging on his every word.  He'd be a God, immortalized on a t-shirt.  He'd have his own YouTube channel.

Kerry Coombs is like a combination of Fred Jackson and R. Lee Ermey, except faster and made of nylon.

Enjoy.  Happy Friday:

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/03/20316/ohio-state-football-spring-practice-videos-the-legend-of-kerry-coombs-grows 

 

 

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:17 PM | My guess is Wisecrakker never (Score:5 Normal)
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My guess is Wisecrakker never played sports.  I could be wrong, but that's my guess.  

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:26 PM | True... (Score:2 Normal)
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...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:07 PM | Receipts or I don't believe (Score:3 Normal)
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Receipts or I don't believe you. 

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:20 PM | The news here (Score:2 Normal)
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The news here is that USA Today thought that this was news.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:28 PM | Excessive stretching is serious business. (Score:4 Normal)
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Remember?

May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:28 PM | I talk like that to my 7yr (Score:1)
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I talk like that to my 7yr old.

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:31 PM | The wussification of America (Score:4 Normal)
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The wussification of America is on full display with the OP.

 

When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:33 PM | Good thing for OSU (Score:3 Normal)
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Good thing the kicker is not a Boren. He would run off and cry to the press about the lack of family values at OSU under Urban, and he would transfer to Penn State (God knows UM wouldn't take him).

"[The University of Michigan] was, in short, the testing ground for all my prejudices, my beliefs and my ignorance, and it helped to lay out the boundaries of my life."--Arthur Miller

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:09 PM | Let's settle that one, once and for all. (Score:0 Redundant)
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Justin Boren didn't leave Michigan because of salty language by the coaches.  God knows, the Borens -- all of them -- are no strangers to rough-and-tumble yelling.  It is, very ironically, part of their family.

And full credit to the Borens; none of them ever said anything about "yelling" in Michigan practices under the Rodriguez staff as a basis for Justin's departure.

What the Borens said, in their own homemade press release, was a cryptic line about the erosion of "family values" at Michigan.  Since nobody in the press knew quite what to make of that, they assumed "yelling in practice."  Why that assumption was made has always been a mystery to me.  Because the real reason was pretty apparent.  The real reason was that Zach Boren didn't get a Michigan offer, as all the Borens hoped and expected.  And they were so pissed, and so frosted that the Boren family history with Michigan sports (Father/Mike, Mom/Hope, Big Brother/Justin) didn't warrant at least a legacy scholly for Zach, that they yanked Justin out of Michigan's football program in a rage.  "I won't have my two sons playing for two different universities" was the closest thing we ever got to an explanation from Mike.

Justin Boren was a good football player and we missed him on our O-line.  Zach Boren got the last laugh, switching from FB to LB and becoming an OSU captain.  Rich Rodriguez was fully justified; his offense didn't use a FB.  And nobody, not even Jim Tressel, figured Zach as a LB in college even though Zach played some LB in high school.  Lloyd Carr (who may have promised Mike Boren a scholly when he was recruiting Justin) remained his inscrutable.  And our old friend Michael Rosenberg covered himself in shame as always, by speculating about the nature of Michigan football practices that he hadn't attended even though they were open to the press (and so his colleagues knew that Rosenberg was not present).

Just another MGoDay.  Gald we could get this MGoMyth settled.

 

 

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:48 PM | It was a joke (Score:3 Normal)
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And if I'm perpetuating the myth, I don't really give a damn because he was still a little child about leaving UM. He could have been a man and said the real reason for going to OSU (which apparently you know) instead of the cryptic "family values" excuse for leaving. He created the myth by citing "family values" which only led to speculation by the fans and the media.

I'm not going to cry for Justin Boren. It's not like he is the model for taking the high road. See Rich Rod Halloween Costume.

"[The University of Michigan] was, in short, the testing ground for all my prejudices, my beliefs and my ignorance, and it helped to lay out the boundaries of my life."--Arthur Miller

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March 8th, 2013 at 3:03 PM | I wasn't taking sides. (Score:1 Normal)
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It is not a simple pro-Boren or anti-Boren equation.

I was trying to be accurate.  I don't think that it was helpful to Coach Rodriguez to use false excuses (fat... lazy... hates bad language...) to blame Justin Boren, who was a 20 year-old and a very potent Big Ten guard.

I always think that the nuanced story (nobody's perfect and there are two sides) is generally more credible than two-dimensional caricatures.  Problem is, simple caricatures are easier to spread, and they have more potency in the minds of a sometimes-disinterested public.

Anyway, it assuredly wasn't Justin who dreamed up the "family values" press release.  Whether Mike and Hope Boren had help, is beyond my knowledge.  People can like the Borens, or they can hate the Borens.  What people can't do, is to blame Rich Rodriguez for any "erosion of family values" because that was the one part that was beyond dispute; it wasn't true.

 

 

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March 8th, 2013 at 10:46 PM | And you live here (Score:2)
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Section 1 and hear the stories from locals?? Sorry wrong.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:34 PM | I hate Ohio State as much as (Score:2 Normal)
russale2012
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I hate Ohio State as much as the next guy on this board, but clearly whoever wrote this article hasn't played sports, much less football, in his entire life. Coaches yell. They criticize. It's part of their job, and they're just doing it to make you better.



The only real news here is that USA Today thought this should be news.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:36 PM | Old School (Score:1)
BoAndHokeFan
Joined: 03/09/2012
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I like this.  Anything potentially bad for Ohio is good in my book.

Also, the issue is not that he's berating him during stretching. Sure that's normal. It's that he is denegrating the "kicker" role.  Where does the top kicker want to go as a recruit...the place where Coombs coaches..."your just a kicker."

Plus this is Old School.  

The New School approach would get him a blond or brunette....or in this case a red head.

...just one man's opinion.

 

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:36 PM | to me this is a non story but (Score:2)
no joke its hoke
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to me this is a non story but where are the Michigan fans that whined and cried because RR said bad things practice?? I know there are some on here,but i bet it was just because it was RR.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:37 PM | so is this kicker gonna quit the team now? or have (Score:-1 Overrated)
cbs650
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so is this kicker gonna quit the team now? or have his mommy or daddy call the AD and say coach hurt my babies feelings lol

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:38 PM | are we at this point now? (Score:1)
bubblelevel
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Really, everything OSU does is evil and stupid and cheating and .....   What that coach said was nothing and it was funny.  

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March 8th, 2013 at 2:02 PM | Agreed (Score:1)
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I laughed when I watched this. Coach is just giving the player a kick in the ass to get going. Nothing to see here.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:49 PM | Am I that old and out of (Score:4 Normal)
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Am I that old and out of touch at 35 to be completely puzzled that this makes news?  Is it the 10 minute news cyle or do young people really think this is offensive? 

The Team, The Team, The Team.

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:53 PM | MEH (Score:2)
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MEH

"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"

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March 8th, 2013 at 1:59 PM | Coombs is an idiot... (Score:0 Overrated)
blueinorion
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Putting down a player just because he's a kicker is just plain wrong - has nothing to do with "pussification".  Putting down a player because he's drinking water is also wrong.  If a player needs water, then he needs water - don't deny him water.  The coach has no clue what the player is feeling - maybe the player actually NEEDS water.  

Coombs was an idiot for doing that.  Damon Webb, if you see this, this guy recruited you - decommit now and GO BLUE!! 

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