Hoke was top notch at this aspect of his job.
USA VS BELGIUM extra time thread
ITS ALL YOUR FAULT
Ya we lost
and excellent goalie play, Belgium could have won by 5 goals. We got owned today.
goaltending, not defence!
I BET YOU'RE THE GUY WHO TRIES TO START THE WAVE WHILE UP BY A SINGLE TOUCHDOWN.
Soccer is the sport most suited for sudden death OT. Silly that this game is going another 15 mins plus stoppage.
...and the feeling was (I don't know if there's any data to back it up) that players tended to play it safe when they knew there was no chance for recovery if they made a mistake that led to a goal. Teams stayed back, fewer goals were scored (allegedly).
And do you really wish we'd been spared that last 27 minutes? The intensity really kicks up when one team becomes desperate. That's why I still think they should take the penalties before the extra time instead of after. Whichever team won the penalties wins the game if it finishes tied; the other team is forced to go for it.
I actually think they should go sudden death and play for as long as it takes, no shootout. You can't just play not to lose if there's literally no way to advance without scoring. If there's still too much playing defensively even after that, take one player for each team off the pitch every five minutes until someone scores. No one is going to be able to sit back and defend if it's 5 on 5 out there. That may not seem like authentic soccer of course, but then what is penalty kicks?
I feel the same way about hockey, for what it's worth. No shootouts. Start taking players off the ice if you have to, but give me a decision, not a draw with some silly exhibition deciding things.
Soccer players calibrate their effort to make sure they can last the required time. If they know the game can't possibly go longer than 120 minutes they can play at a 120-minute pace. If the game might go on all day, they'll pace themselves accordingly. And it will go on all day. And the next--I can't find a link but didn't that happen in Pennsylvania once?
Go back to your hole and sniff glue Darth. I look forward to finding out what username you'll be using next once you out yourself for the weirdo you are.
How sad can someone be to neg literally every thread about a sport.
You forgot #HOTSPORTSTAKE
"Let's not call them anything -- Let's just ignore them". http://youtu.be/PrvXoin9NcA
Neg bang me if you must. Be gentle.
Nice fucking job
At least we made it close and Belgium had to earn every point. I don't think we would have made it close against Argentina anyway. Still plan on watching the World Cup though, now it's nothing but the best teams going head to head.
1 minute of stoppage time?!? Really?!? 1?!? I've watched almost all of every game this WC and I cannot think of one game that had 1 minute of stoppage time. Fucking pathetic. Portugal got 5, IIRC, and it seemed there wasn't but a few stops!
...because it's being added to just 15 minutes instead of 45 and, generally, there's less stuff to add on. By percentage, that's the same as 3 minutes at the end of a half.
I am aware of that ... but Jones was down twice for AT LEAST a minute each time. Bottom line, no Euro ref was going to give the US another chance to win -- bullshit!
I must have missed it.
The head ref was a Swede, if I am not mistaken. Either way, it's fucking bullshit. There was a lot more than 1 minute of stops.
Fine! But that doesn't mean that FIFA isn't going to give the US a chance to tie the game against Belgium. It was obivious. Did you see Coach K's reaction?!?
It's a fucking farce, as was the lack of calls when Jones is getting hit studs up over and over. I love soccer, and I love the World Cup, but it was OBVIOUS at the end that FIFA wasn't going to give the US anything.
Are you really going to throw this temper tantrum right now?
The US had plenty of opportunities to put the ball in the back of the net. They didn't get it done. It had very little to do with the refs.
I agree the US got out played, and that they had opportunities to score. But 1 minute is asinine. If you don't agree, fine. But I am not throwing a tantrum, I am expressing my discontent with the way the refs handled the end of the game -- because we ALL know that that FIFA is above reproach!
Duke sucks !!!!! Lol
Well, how about the US do virtually anything for the first 90 minutes of the game (other than allow Belgium to rain in shots on goal) and you don't worry about stoppage time in OT? I get that people are made about the loss, but jebus this bitching is the worst part of fandom. US could have easily lost by 5 goals today with Howard playing out of his mind. Belgium was the better team, the FAR better team, and they deserved to win.
but are you effing kidding? In a game in which we are dominated from start to finish--and are only alive because our keeper plays a legendary game--you find a conspiracy---cuz given another 60 seconds, what? You may need to adjust the tinfoil.
"You may need to adjust the tinfoil."
What does that mean? Oh wait, I get it ... because I think that the ref, about whom Klinsman expressed concern prior to the game, gave too little stoppage time (about which Klinsman complained vehmently during the game), I must be a *gasp* "conspiracy therorist" who -- to block "them" from reading his mind -- wears a hat of foil. Now THAT is a good one. Did you come up with that all on your own cuz that is pure comedic GENIUS!
I don't own any tinfoil, it freaks me out, and I certainly don't have a hat of one -- I do, however, own a nice chunck of RAI that has done very well. I'll sell you some if you like. It just made a 52 week high, but it is only going up from here, trust me muppet, trust me.
Belgium's dominance is meaningless.
You didn't just complain that the officiating was bad. Rather you ranted ad nauseam that there was a conspiracy involving not only the referee but FIFA as well. We all know that FIFA sucks--but not tacking on another minute is a pretty lame attempt to throw the game.
Sorry, when I hear the word conspiracy, I start thinking Area 51 and....tinfoil.
Also, notice how absolutely no one here agrees with you.
"...you ranted ad nauseam..."
Hopefully you puked your brains out! I disagree with your assessment of my posts as ranting, and that the frequency ascended to the level of ad nauseam. But, you're welcome to my opinion.
"Sorry, when I hear the word conspiracy, I start thinking Area 51 and....tinfoil."
And why should I care what weird associations you have? It's funny how people dismiss things out of hand when there might be more than one perp involved -- as if the "lone gunman" is the ONLY scenario possible. I call people who express the sentiment that you're expressing "Coincidence Therorists." It's odd to me because so many things in history have born out to be actual "conspiracies" in which a group of people united to achieve a common goal. Whether this one was or not, who knows. But I find it funny that you think that by throwing out the "tinfoil hat" meme you elevate your position.
"Also, notice how absolutely no one here agrees with you."
Again, I am supposed to care why? Unlike you, apparently, I form my own opinions whether they run with the crowds sentiment or not. Run with the herd all you want, enjoy yourself. But don't expect me to alter my beliefs simply because others don't agree. You all could be dumbledicks who know nothing. But then again, I could be too. Not sure why you have to get so upset about my thoughts. But, I am flattered that you care so much.
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Portugal got 5 minutes after a 45 minute half.
US got 1 minute after a 15 minute Extra Period.
Can someone explain to me why this team seemed to be on the attack more so in overtime than during the first 90 ? Once they got down 2-0 it seemed like they kicked up the intensity
If we did that the entire game the score would have been about 6-32 in their favor.
Which you can't do because of break aways.
On top of that, if you tried to play like that for an entire game the whole team would be cramping up long before it was over. Eight of your guys have to play the entire 120; conservation of energy is a necessity.
So the point is to play conservative until you start losing ??? Or are we just not in tip top shape to run hard for 90+ minutes
Moving people up in those numbers is only an option when the other team moves their entire team into a defensive position.
But a lot of teams do run a counter attack minded offense. You just won't see numbers up to that extent until there's desperation.
Switzerland had their goal keeper take a bicycle kick in their game earlier today.
Yes they opened themselves up to counter attack by going with almost everyone forward - if they did that for 90 minutes we might have scored 2-3 goals but probably give up 5-6.
Was playing lights out I would have gambled a few times a half.... but then again in not a coach
with a striker. Even if you are Tim Howard.
We picked it up once Green came on. Even the team knew that in terms of technical ability he was the best option. Green gave the team energy. So pumped for him and Yedlin
Well, one of those 2 goals was a result of US putting the pressure on and Belgium getting numbers on the counter-attack. The strategy was not to get run off the field by Belgium and it kinda worked (with Howard making huge saves), and as soon as the US pushed the action they also left themselves even more open. If they had started to do so earlier they likely would have given up even more shots.
And just like that, 300 million people go back to not caring about soccer.