US News Medical School rankings (UofM in top 10)

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March 11th, 2013 at 1:06 PM
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US News Medical School rankings (UofM in top 10)

UofM is ranked alphabetically as the #8 in research and #6 in primary care, according to US News and World reports ranking of the best graduate programs for medicine.  That is out of 149 fully accredited schools.

http://news.yahoo.com/2014-best-graduate-schools-preview-top-10-medical-144236947.html


 

Top Research Schools

1. Columbia University (NY)
2. Duke University (NC)
3. Harvard University (MA)
4. Johns Hopkins University (MD)
5. Stanford University (CA)
6. University of California--San Francisco
7. University of Chicago (Pritzker)
8. University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
9. University of Pennsylvania (Perelman)
T10. Washington University in St. Louis
T10. Yale University (CT)

Top Primary Care Schools

1. Oregon Health and Science University
2. University of Alabama--Birmingham
3. University of California--San Francisco
4. University of Colorado--Denver
5. University of Massachusetts--Worcester
6. University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
7. University of Minnesota
8. University of Nebraska Medical Center
9. University of North Carolina--Chapel Hill
10. University of Washington
              

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March 11th, 2013 at 1:13 PM | I guess Josh Garnett wanted (Score:3 Normal)
Lazer with a Z
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I guess Josh Garnett wanted to do research at Stanford?

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March 11th, 2013 at 2:43 PM | Stanford? After reading (Score:2)
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Stanford? After reading Pryor's paper I can't believe OSU isn't part of this list.

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March 11th, 2013 at 3:27 PM | Was that the "everyone kills (Score:2)
yoyo
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Was that the "everyone kills people" article in the Michael Vick journal of criminal athletes?

March 11th, 2013 at 1:19 PM | Not so fast (Score:5 Normal)
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Those are listed in alphabetical order. The actual order won't be released until March 12. So yes, Michigan is top 10 in both, but we don't yet know where exactly in the top 10.

March 11th, 2013 at 1:27 PM | I'm not sure what this whole (Score:2)
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I'm not sure what this whole "alphabet" thing you are referring to actually is, but I do not like it, sir.  Edited the OP to downplay my inattention to details.  Hopefully people will be all like "What does the OP mean by ranked alphabetically as #8?" and then read into the comments to gain a full understanding as to why it was worded so weird.

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March 11th, 2013 at 9:20 PM | Not saying you are not (Score:0 Flamebait)
March 11th, 2013 at 1:26 PM | We're also in the top 10 for (Score:3 Normal)
tblasius
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We're also in the top 10 for Engineering and Law.

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/articles/2013/03/0...

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/ar...

March 11th, 2013 at 1:34 PM | And similar caveats apply re (Score:2 Underrated)
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And similar caveats apply re alphabetization.  Also does anyone know if USNWR actually covers "news and world reports" anymore or is it like Platform 9 3/4 (or Greenwood Street), popping up once a year to do its thing and then dissapearing.

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March 11th, 2013 at 10:14 PM | I will not (Score:0 Flamebait)
March 11th, 2013 at 1:30 PM | That list of Top 10 Primary (Score:2)
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That list of Top 10 Primary Care universities caught me by slight surprise.  UAB? Colorado?  Oregon H&SU?  I've never heard of these schools previously listed as top institutions in this field.  Interesting.  Thank you, OP.

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March 11th, 2013 at 1:35 PM | A VERY different ranking (Score:1)
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A VERY different ranking system is used to determine these programs. I'm honestly suprised that U-M did so well in this ranking. While widly known as a world-class teaching & reseach medical institution, to now be recognized as a leader in primary care training as well is quite something.

March 11th, 2013 at 1:55 PM | I have a degree from OHSU. (Score:5 Normal)
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I have a degree from OHSU. Outside of medical journals, academic rankings and the city of Portland you don't hear much about it. A few years ago I wore my "OHSU Medical School" tee to a softball game and a guy said to me "Go Buckeyes". 

The distinction between primary care and research is important in these rankings. To be ranked top ten in both says a lot about Michigan's medical school. 

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March 11th, 2013 at 4:55 PM | Question (Score:2)
M Wolve
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Did you like OHSU?  I'm applying for an EM residency next year and really like the way the program looks.

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March 11th, 2013 at 2:05 PM | Primary care focuses on (Score:2)
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Primary care focuses on general practice, like family practice, internal medicine and ped's.  Specialties like ortho, ENT, any surgery, cardio, hem-onc, radiology are separate.  IIRC, in the past, michigan state had tended to rate more highly than UM in primary care, although that's apparently no longer the case. Very different focuses. 

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March 11th, 2013 at 2:48 PM | For a comparison of the (Score:1)
bluebyyou
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For a comparison of the methodology of primary care to research, check here:

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-school...

The percentage of graduates who go into primary care is one of the big distinctions between the research and primary care ranking methodologies. I'm not sure why that would be predictive of very much.

The one piece of data which would seem to be the big equalizer  in comparing all medical school programs is the average Step I score, which is not used by USNWR, and where Vandy often leads the country.

Bottom line - anyone getting into a decent med school is pretty smart.  Michigan just happens to be a bit better than most,  but then I am biased.

March 11th, 2013 at 2:52 PM | primary care rankings (Score:1)
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The primary care rankings don't make a whole lot of sense in general since they weigh heavily the number of graduating students entering "primary care" residencies, including internal medicine and pediatrics, any of whom could go on to become interventional cardiologists, intensivists, etc, and never do any primary care.

March 11th, 2013 at 1:48 PM | Congrats to the 4th years (Score:5 Normal)
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Congrats to the 4th years that matched today I hope to be in their shoes next year!

March 11th, 2013 at 2:10 PM | It's a great feeling! (Score:3 Normal)
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The real mystery is where... I suppose I'll have to wait until Friday. Good luck to you. Do you know what you want to match in?

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March 11th, 2013 at 2:17 PM | I'm thinking anesthesia but (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm thinking anesthesia but it's hard being 100% sure without actually having a rotation in it yet.

March 11th, 2013 at 4:20 PM | Awesome! (Score:3 Normal)
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That's a great field. I have a couple good friends headed that way. Best of luck to you! Rest assured that fourth year is the promised land of medical school. Survive a couple more months and you will be freed.

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March 11th, 2013 at 3:29 PM | Congrat boss.  What field? (Score:2)
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Congrat boss.  What field?

March 11th, 2013 at 4:17 PM | Thanks! (Score:3 Normal)
Lloyd's Boy
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I'll be going into Neurology. I'm currently a student at the University of Iowa, but I'm really hoping to head back to the University of Michigan for residency. We shall see. I will be saying some MGoPrayers over the next couple days!

"To hell with Notre Dame."

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March 11th, 2013 at 5:32 PM | The guy who was (dunno if he (Score:1)
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The guy who was (dunno if he is still) head of the EMG lab, Dr. Teener, is a very nice guy.  Learned a lot from him as well as Dr. Albers.

March 11th, 2013 at 8:38 PM | Congrats to all 4th years who (Score:1)
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Congrats to all 4th years who matched, my gf is finishing up here 2nd year of Med School at Michigan and is currently studying for boards.....God help me haha

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March 11th, 2013 at 2:05 PM | Michigan and UCSF (Score:2)
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Michigan and UCSF are the only schools to hit both lists. Yay.

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March 11th, 2013 at 6:18 PM | This is a stupid question (Score:1)
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This is a stupid question (though I'm not a pre-med student) but what is the difference between research and primary care? If you want to be the best surgeon you can be for example, are you looking for the best reserach or primary care in a school?

March 11th, 2013 at 7:10 PM | Essentially, primary is an (Score:1 Normal)
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Essentially, primary is an active medical practitioner and can be specialized like a surgeon. Research is cancer cures, stem-cell, drug studies, etc. Fellows and post-docs will research something specific, and publish findings. They usually get gov grants, private foundations and UofM monies to work for a couple years to upwards of a decade depending upon the terms to research, publish and literally to discover new medical thingys.



If you wander around by the UofM hospital and meander around the side streets with the tree covered buildings in that area, there are a ton of buildings that look empty. Those builds are some of the research facilities. Research and primary can be a blended approach, though, I mean most Drs are scientist at heart.

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March 11th, 2013 at 6:28 PM | It's a great university and (Score:1)
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I only hope our football and basketball teams can match the quality of our education!

I bet Hoke already printed these rankings to show recruits the quality of UM ..l

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March 11th, 2013 at 6:29 PM | i just read yesterday that (Score:2)
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i just read yesterday that osu pharmacy college is in serious trouble. lawsuits, fraud, professors quitting,and mis use of funds.

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