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US Army All-American Bowl Thread
January 5th, 2013 at 4:39 PM | 
Gotcha
Gotcha
January 5th, 2013 at 4:42 PM |
Cullen Christian is riding
Cullen Christian is riding
Cullen Christian is riding the bench at Pitt now.
January 5th, 2013 at 4:32 PM |
I think it would make more
I think it would make more
I think it would make more sense to look at Alabama the last few years.
January 5th, 2013 at 4:34 PM |
Gibbons and a gallon don't
Gibbons and a gallon don't
Gibbons and a gallon don't excite you when they play? Alright Debbie Downer
Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!
January 5th, 2013 at 4:37 PM |
I like 'em
I like 'em
I like 'em, don't get me wrong, but I see them as solid contrubutors versus elite players. I doubt either have NFL potential for example. You just don't watch them as think "wow"...I guess kinda the eye test. But, definately good players that contribute. This has nothing to do with them as people, just ability fwiw.
Strength equipment is expensive and guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free and can give you everything you want.
January 5th, 2013 at 4:40 PM |
Gibbons has very impressive
Gibbons has very impressive
Gibbons has very impressive kicking stats. I would not be surprised one iota to see him on an NFL roster in a few years.
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January 5th, 2013 at 4:47 PM |
Really?
Really?
I say with the a ton of respect for him for coming back from a dreadful 2010, although it can't be easy to kick for RR. But, I have always gotten the sense that Hoke had to handle him with care to keep him from mentally breaking. Maybe it's like that with all kickers idk. But, there have been times when it seems as though we don't have a ton of confidence in him by going for it on 4th down when kicking a FG would seem logical, he also rarely kicks anything over 40-45yds which seem automatic in the NFL. I think we have gained more confidence over the course of the past two years, and he probably has gains confidence in himself as well. Again, I totally repsect his turnaround, but I just never got the sense he was a great kicker...maybe it's just me.
Strength equipment is expensive and guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free and can give you everything you want.
January 5th, 2013 at 4:55 PM |
I don't put much stock in
I don't put much stock in
I don't put much stock in here say or conjecture. I see Gibbons make high pressure game winning/tieing kicks against Virginia Tech, Michigan State, northwestern as well as 90% of all kicks this year. Robbie Gould has been one of the best kickers in the NfL for the past 6 years while still being very sketchy from beyond 45 yards. If gibbons has another successful year next year ill bet he as on Sundays.
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January 5th, 2013 at 5:44 PM |
Tit for tat
Tit for tat
You can make stats say whatever you want, here are some. If you look at his stats from 2010 he made 1/5 field goals overall and then we basically stopped using him. In 2011 had a huge improvement and made 13/17. But, he was only 2/5 in field goals from 40-49 yds This year he was 1/3 between 40-49. So even though he's had a good past two years he was only 3/8 from 40-49. I don't think that's great. If you take a guy like Adam Vinatieri he makes between 10-14 a year over 40 yds.
Strength equipment is expensive and guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free and can give you everything you want.
January 5th, 2013 at 7:40 PM |
Agreed, Brendan Gibbons is
Agreed, Brendan Gibbons is
Agreed, Brendan Gibbons is not as good as one of the greatest kickers of all time. Is he better than a guy like Billy Cundiff? I would say yes, and Billy Cundiff has started for multiple teams.
Again, I would compare him to a guy like Robbie Gould, where he isn't going to be successful from beyond 45, but he is quite good from inside that range.
And its much harder to manipulate kicking statistics, as kicking a ball is almost literally the same thing every time. 95% from inside 45 yards is an NfL kicker to me.
Agree to disagree I spose.
Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!
January 5th, 2013 at 9:51 PM |
Fair enough
Fair enough
Time will tell, to be continued next year.
Strength equipment is expensive and guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free and can give you everything you want.
January 5th, 2013 at 4:37 PM |
FWIW, Under Armour
FWIW, Under Armour
FWIW, Under Armour All-Americans:
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2008 Brandon Moore TE 2008-2012 |
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2008 Dann O’Neill OL 2008 |
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2008 Darryl Stonum WR 2008-2011 |
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2009 Isaiah Bell DB 2009-2011 |
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2009 Taylor Lewan OL 2009- |
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2009 Craig Roh DL 2009-2012 |
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2010 Devin Gardner QB 2010- |
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2012 Joe Bolden LB 2012- |
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2012 Terry Richardson CB 2012- |
When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....
January 5th, 2013 at 4:40 PM |
Including this year's
Including this year's
Including this year's participants...
http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2012/12/under-armour-all-american-gam...
January 5th, 2013 at 4:37 PM |
geez those 08 and 09 class
geez those 08 and 09 class
geez those 08 and 09 class had some major bust in them.
Vice.com
January 5th, 2013 at 5:08 PM |
Yeah, that's pretty much well
Yeah, that's pretty much well
Yeah, that's pretty much well established at this point, but it's still amazing to actually look back and see it. And it's not like some just didn't work-out at UM, but a lotdidn't accomplish anything at all. I mean Je'ron Stokes can't even crack the depth chart at Bowling Green.
January 5th, 2013 at 4:30 PM |
Tenpenny was dragging Thomas...
Tenpenny was dragging Thomas...
Like a 6 year old...
Reporter: “Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?”
Shaquille O’Neill: “I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to.”
January 5th, 2013 at 4:31 PM |
After two and a half hours watching
After two and a half hours watching
After two and a half hours watching, I'm convinced the organizers made a conscious effort to put Butt and Boutte on separate teams.
That one hurt.
January 5th, 2013 at 4:35 PM |
LOL nice offensive PI there
LOL nice offensive PI there
LOL nice offensive PI there on the 2 point conversion.
January 5th, 2013 at 4:36 PM |
Wow, Illinois is throttling
Wow, Illinois is throttling
Wow, Illinois is throttling Ohio. Up 21 now.
January 5th, 2013 at 4:38 PM |
50-27....wow
50-27....wow
50-27....wow
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January 5th, 2013 at 4:52 PM |
Ugg
Ugg
We look bad! I turned this game off to not watch it yet I still get a score up date. Not looking forward to the rest of this season!
Hello Charles Woodson, now give me the ball on offense. - Brent Musburger
January 5th, 2013 at 4:57 PM |
The big men
The big men
you recruited last year, Trey and Amir along with the other recruits from that class have been subpar performers thus far, especially the big guys
January 5th, 2013 at 4:45 PM |
That OSU offer to Quick
That OSU offer to Quick
That OSU offer to Quick guess it wasn't committable. Seeing how he's playing in this game, totally understandable. He's a bust.
EDIT: /s just in case.
That one hurt.
January 5th, 2013 at 4:49 PM |
Looks like a no brainer for
Looks like a no brainer for
Looks like a no brainer for MM to pick Ohio ... hope I'm wrong.
January 5th, 2013 at 4:51 PM |
15-8 East leading
15-8 East leading
did Brian predict the score for this game
Mitchell to ohio, bummer but expected
January 5th, 2013 at 4:51 PM |
UT is losing a lot of instate
UT is losing a lot of instate
UT is losing a lot of instate talent.
I once witnessed Crable choke a girl at Bell's....
January 5th, 2013 at 4:52 PM |
That kid has some big guns
That kid has some big guns
That kid has some big guns for a high schooler. Hopefully he ends up sucking
January 5th, 2013 at 4:55 PM |
Jourdan Lewis
Jourdan Lewis
Said something to Derrick green in the handshake but couldn't make it out. Hopefully it was, "see you in the spring"
January 5th, 2013 at 5:25 PM |
Does Derrick Green have a
Does Derrick Green have a
Does Derrick Green have a commitment date?? I can't remember. And correct me if I'm wrong but he wil no longer be enrolling early, right?
ALL ABOARD THE A-TRAIN!!!!!
" ~ Herm "
January 5th, 2013 at 6:43 PM |
He has said it will be
He has said it will be
He has said it will be "sometime in January."
He was never planning to enroll early.
January 5th, 2013 at 5:52 PM |
So we're down to #6 class
So we're down to #6 class
After sitting at #1 for a long stretch in the spring, our misses with top kids (LaQuon, LM3, Fuller, Isaac) and competitors landing 5 & high 4 stars bumped us to 6 in Rivals rankings.
Frustrating to see ND and OSU at #1 and 3, respectively.
"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak. But it takes everybody." - Charles Woodson
January 5th, 2013 at 6:44 PM |
It's a little bit of a bummer
It's a little bit of a bummer
It's a little bit of a bummer to see us ranked under 3 teams we lost to this year after being ahead for so long, but just by the Rivals rankings we're very close in the point totals. If, for example, Cameron Hunt were to commit he would push our point total up over 100 points and we'd leapfrog Florida, USC, and Ohio. We're very much in the mix for the top 3 as these classes finish up.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
January 5th, 2013 at 7:38 PM |
It is a bummer, but on the
It is a bummer, but on the
It is a bummer, but on the bright side: our class is #6 in the nation with a shot to still move up a little. The future is very bright.
And really, the difference between the top classes can't be too large. We'll see these guys on the field, where it counts.
January 5th, 2013 at 7:14 PM |
I'd be lying if I said I
I'd be lying if I said I
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about OSU & ND's recruiting. It's a shame that we seem to do this every year in recruiting. We get a great early lead, but are unable to lock down the upper echelon talent when they decide at All-American games. Green would obviously help. It was frustrating watching those AA games and seeing our class rank drop slowly with every selection. It was also frustrating to see OSU & ND on so many tables and Michigan only get on one. I guess we just really need to have faith in our coaches' ability to identify talent and develop talent. Guys like Jake Ryan and Funchess give hope.
January 5th, 2013 at 8:21 PM |
Oh God, can we just please,
Oh God, can we just please,
Oh God, can we just please, please, PLEASE, kill this meme with fire right now. Just because some teams get kids to commit at All-american games and we get them in the spring means nothing. Would it make you feel better if all our commits in the AA games had committed to us at the actual AA games? Does that make them better? Does that make our class better?
Jesus, we have a top-5ish class depending on which site, and it's ridiculously close how the top classes are. As mentioned above, if we added Cameron Hunt, who is a 'generic' four star, and Green, and we jump all the way to number 3 (above Ohio). Of course this is provided all else stays the same, and it probably won't (but we could end up being helped anyways). Thisis just looking at Rivals, which very much emphasises the very top (only measures the top 20) and gives extrodinary bonuses to their Rivals 250, with an even heavier emphasis on the top-of-the-top. On Scout we're still number 1 because they take class size into account. So is the number 100 prospect 50 points (i.e. the difference between #6 and #4 on the rankings) a better prospect than a 'generic' 4 star? I dunno, we could have that debate, but that's what Rival's rankings measure.
The point is that we have a fantastic class, and the coaches pretty much got it all before the season started. The upper echelon on the recruiting rankings are all so close, the differences in field success will come down to coaching, and getting these types of classes year after year. Considering we now have two consecutive classes of this caliber, I would say we're well on our way to being very good. Of course I would love to see Ohio and ND fall of a cliff, but that's a pretty unrealistic hope unless they hire the completely wrong coach.
January 5th, 2013 at 9:12 PM |
I didn't say we had a bad
I didn't say we had a bad
I didn't say we had a bad class. I'm just saying it sucks to be passed by your Rivals in ANYTHING. When Michigan is ahead of OSU/ND everyone is talking about rankings. When OSU/ND pass UM, then it is MGoTerrorism to be upset about falling in the rankings. Why am I not allowed to be discouraged when our rivals pick up multiple top end recruits during the AA games, and we're only on one table and missed that one. Of course our class would be better if we had Green and Hunt, but it would have been better with LM3 too. OSU/ND did pick up key verbals, and we have key targets. The truth is that our rivals got a leg up on us this weekend and ut sucks. Is it not ok to be slightly upset about that?
January 5th, 2013 at 10:37 PM |
Just so you know
Just so you know
OSU and ND do not have better classes than M. Rivals.com is not the end-all be-all when it comes to recruiting rankings. We currently have the #1 class according to Scout.
I have no idea why you're so depressed. The 2013 class is full of guys that were Hoke's staff's first choice. Jeez.
If Shane Morris decommits and goes to OSU, then we can panic.
Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!
January 5th, 2013 at 11:25 PM |
My original comment was
My original comment was
simply that it's frustrating to see ND and OSU get more recognition (based on Rivals as affiliated with the Army game) at this point.
If we hit on just a couple of our top targets and/or they miss, then we likely keep #1 or 2. It's close.
After losing to both on the field by small margins, winning the mythical recruiting title would steal a little thunder from them.
"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak. But it takes everybody." - Charles Woodson
January 6th, 2013 at 12:05 AM |
I'm not depressed about
I'm not depressed about
I'm not depressed about Michigan's class. It just sucks to see ND get a recruiting boost for being in a NC (which I don't think they belong in), and it sucks to see OSU get a recruiting bump despite their violations (just bcus they hire a new dirtball coach to replace the old one).
January 5th, 2013 at 11:27 PM |
Yes, because we all know that
Yes, because we all know that
Yes, because we all know that the one thing that matters is...
...how many prospects have a Michigan hat on their selection tables.
January 6th, 2013 at 11:58 AM |
So I should be happy that
So I should be happy that
So I should be happy that Michigan was only in the running on one decision all weekend and missed on that one? People keep trying to combine being upset about missing out on elite prospects at AA games with not liking our current class. I think we have a great class. However, I'm upset that other schools got huge additions this weekend and we got none. Why is that a bad thing? It's Michigan, and I'm not 100% happy unless we're #1. I might be 95% happy. Either way, seeing ND get a 5 star safety and OSU get the #30 player in the country is a downer for me. If we had the #1 class I wouldn't care about hat selections.
January 6th, 2013 at 12:23 PM |
I'm saying you're taking
I'm saying you're taking
I'm saying you're taking things like whose hat sits on a table too seriously.
January 5th, 2013 at 7:54 PM |
Well next year, instead of
Well next year, instead of
Well next year, instead of getting our committments early, we will tell them to hold out until the all star games so they can pick our hats on national tv. wishing green realizes that he can play early and often at michigan instead of the other schools. don't understand why kids go to schools who already have a load of 5 star talent from previous classes playing the same position as they play and get mad when they don't get playing time.
Michigan Football- What you gonna do when hokemania RUNS wild over you?
Gotcha, thanks. Hopefully Hoke et al. evals will prove better. What ever happened to Cullen Christian? He was highly ranked, a top 100 guy, has good size for a corner at 6'0" 187...is he still on the team? Pardon my ignormance as I just started really following recruiting other than casually last year.
Strength equipment is expensive and guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free and can give you everything you want.