Sweet. Picks Miami over ND.
"You can't make me," Hoke said. "You're not my father."
Sweet. Picks Miami over ND.
Was it just me or was his dad wearing a Detroit Lions winter hat?
Helmet to helmet...pretty dirty hit there....made no attempt to wrap up.
in this game last year? Anyone remember?
Michigan on hopefully michigan tackle
Derrick fricken Green!!!!
Dude is huge and legit runs like a 4.5 or something. He's apparently a monster in 7-on-7 and can lock down WRs even though he's an LB. That said, he could be suffering from the "Oh crap, now I'm playing against people who can actually play" type of thing that most kids who dominate lesser competition suffer from.
running we need from Green in AA, nice sweep run
it was Jourdan Lewis who tackled him
Wow! That D Green is good. Oh how I salivate about a potential commitment.
for a TD here please, he's earned the chance
Oh shocking, the NBC guys are talking about the speed on D for ND. I really should just mute this game...but it's more fun to complain!
ND has a TV deal with NBC.....what were u expecting.
Unfortunately I think Jaylon Smith is the best player in this game.
by the QB's in this senior class so far, I know it's tough in these games but I've seen QB's in the past look way better than this crop.
Yeah, there aren't a lot of quality quarterbacks in this class. I've been saying that since I watched the "elite" quarterbacks at The Opening. Browne is going to be good, Morris will get there eventually, and I like Brice Ramsey. I'm sure there will be some other guys to emerge in college, but it's a weak class.
FWIW, I was really impressed by Hackenberg yesterday. Great touch and accuracy.
Huh? Hackenberg looked bad as always.
OK. Agree to disagree. The Scout guys that were there seemed impressed by him as well... again, FWIW.
He was 4/16 for 34 yards, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions, and 2 sacks. I don't see how anyone could be impressed by that.
I don't think any of the quarterbacks in that game were impressive, but I'd take a few of the participants in that game over Hackenberg.
True, but he had a LOT of drops (I know... standard excuse for why one's favored QB doesn't have good stats). Most of the QBs were no where close to their intended receivers.
Some quotes from Scout.com
"Christian Hackenberg has been the best and most consistent quarterback on either team throughout the week" - Scout National Recruiting Analyst Brandon Huffman
Love when these guys don't pick Ohio.
It was already expected that he wasn't going to go to OSU from inside reports. No shock here but Mitchell is expected to commit later today.
Can't blame him. If UL isn't on the upswing, OSU's chances are great, but I wouldn't turn down my hometown team either in this scenario.
how much inside you need to get, but last time I took a look at 11w they were at least 50-50.
Yeah, I think they originally had him at that between OSU and Lou but one of the writers said it was a no go a few days earlier. I think in the end he wanted to be at home and the win over Florida might have done that too. Moreover, with Teddy Bridgewater being able to throw a ball (we're not sure about Miller as a passer yet), Quick will be able to make some really good plays. Good pick up for the Cardinals!
11 Warriors is not the best place to look if you want an unbiased opinion.
There are still people here who think that Josh Garnett is going to pick Michigan.
People more inside than 11 Warriors expected Quick to pick Louisville.
The staff at 11w expected Quick to go to UL. Anything in the forums is inherently biased fanhood, no harm there.
It was more like cautious optimism, but most people weren't really buying the 50/50 thing. I actually think Shelton Gibson is better as a deep threat, because he's a more physical receiver with comparable speed.
Can we count this as a victory?
Louisville is a better fit for you and U-M
Quick to Louisville
The only thing that will make me happy here is if MM commits somewhere other than OSU
by Fuller on that PI
How is that a PI? He had better position than the WR.
After taking a quick look at the link Magnus put up from previous UM commits at this game from the past 5 years, I'm wondering what's all the fuss about?
Kyle Kalis, OL - Lakewood, OH
Royce Jenkins-Stone, LB - Detroit, MI
Erik Magnuson, OL - Carlsbad, CA
Ondre Pipkins, DT - Kansas City, MO
James Ross, LB - Orchard Lake, MI
Blake Countess, CB - Olney, MD
Matt Wile, K - San Diego, CA
Cullen Christian, CB - Pittsburgh, PA
Will Hagerup, P - Whitefish Bay, WI
William Campbell, DT - Detroit, MI
Jeremy Gallon, WR - Apopka, FL
Brendan Gibbons, K - West Palm Beach, FL
Anthony Lalota, DE - Princeton, NJ
Je'Ron Stokes, WR - Pittsburgh, PA
Justin Turner, CB - Massillon, OH
Boubacar Cissoko, CB - Detroit, MI
Sam McGuffie, RB - Houston, TX
Brandon Smith, S - New Brunswick, NJ
How many of those guys have actually gone on to be what we would consider quality players ala all-conference types? It's too early to judge last year's group. Countess looks like he's got the potential. Wile, Hagerup, BWC, Gallon, and Gibbons have been solid contribtors, but nothing to get too excited about. Should we really be excited about any of these guys and expect them to be all-conference types? Not to say we shouldn't, but just a question if this is all hype or if it's a good indicator of who will be good in college.
Maybe it's just an unfortunate coincidence, but I feel like Michigan has had an uncharacteristic lack of success with its recent Army Bowl participants. The players who played for Rich Rodriguez generally didn't do well. Before that things were pretty good, and the jury's still out on the Hoke recruits who participated.
Gotcha, thanks. Hopefully Hoke et al. evals will prove better. What ever happened to Cullen Christian? He was highly ranked, a top 100 guy, has good size for a corner at 6'0" 187...is he still on the team? Pardon my ignormance as I just started really following recruiting other than casually last year.
Cullen Christian is riding the bench at Pitt now.
Gibbons and a gallon don't excite you when they play? Alright Debbie Downer
I like 'em, don't get me wrong, but I see them as solid contrubutors versus elite players. I doubt either have NFL potential for example. You just don't watch them as think "wow"...I guess kinda the eye test. But, definately good players that contribute. This has nothing to do with them as people, just ability fwiw.
Gibbons has very impressive kicking stats. I would not be surprised one iota to see him on an NFL roster in a few years.
I say with the a ton of respect for him for coming back from a dreadful 2010, although it can't be easy to kick for RR. But, I have always gotten the sense that Hoke had to handle him with care to keep him from mentally breaking. Maybe it's like that with all kickers idk. But, there have been times when it seems as though we don't have a ton of confidence in him by going for it on 4th down when kicking a FG would seem logical, he also rarely kicks anything over 40-45yds which seem automatic in the NFL. I think we have gained more confidence over the course of the past two years, and he probably has gains confidence in himself as well. Again, I totally repsect his turnaround, but I just never got the sense he was a great kicker...maybe it's just me.
I don't put much stock in here say or conjecture. I see Gibbons make high pressure game winning/tieing kicks against Virginia Tech, Michigan State, northwestern as well as 90% of all kicks this year. Robbie Gould has been one of the best kickers in the NfL for the past 6 years while still being very sketchy from beyond 45 yards. If gibbons has another successful year next year ill bet he as on Sundays.
You can make stats say whatever you want, here are some. If you look at his stats from 2010 he made 1/5 field goals overall and then we basically stopped using him. In 2011 had a huge improvement and made 13/17. But, he was only 2/5 in field goals from 40-49 yds This year he was 1/3 between 40-49. So even though he's had a good past two years he was only 3/8 from 40-49. I don't think that's great. If you take a guy like Adam Vinatieri he makes between 10-14 a year over 40 yds.
Agreed, Brendan Gibbons is not as good as one of the greatest kickers of all time. Is he better than a guy like Billy Cundiff? I would say yes, and Billy Cundiff has started for multiple teams.
Again, I would compare him to a guy like Robbie Gould, where he isn't going to be successful from beyond 45, but he is quite good from inside that range.
And its much harder to manipulate kicking statistics, as kicking a ball is almost literally the same thing every time. 95% from inside 45 yards is an NfL kicker to me.
Agree to disagree I spose.
Time will tell, to be continued next year.
FWIW, Under Armour All-Americans:
2008 Brandon Moore TE 2008-2012
2008 Dann O’Neill OL 2008
2008 Darryl Stonum WR 2008-2011
2009 Isaiah Bell DB 2009-2011
2009 Taylor Lewan OL 2009-
2009 Craig Roh DL 2009-2012
2010 Devin Gardner QB 2010-
2012 Joe Bolden LB 2012-
2012 Terry Richardson CB 2012-
Including this year's participants...