His stats don't seem that great, but he still seems to have all of the physical tools to be a great player. I mean he plays on a great team that doesn't need him to just dominate in every phase of the game, so i guess I was just curious.
Updated ESPN Bball Recruiting Rankings - MM Drops Slightly, GRIII Near 5 Star
As he did over the summer. I do think some of it is his team.
I think he had a bad showing on a national stage. First, he didn't start due to "lack of effort" in the days prior to the game. Second, he was not the most impressive player in that game, and that is often times all the people on these sites are able to see as far as live game action goes. He will be great for us no matter what star rating he has. Yesterday everyone was as excited as ever for this kid, and now one (maybe more) site knocks him down the rankings and people's opinions change.
He's been disappointing in several high profile events this fall. It's actually really strange. He went up against a number of these same guys during the AAU season and was the best player on the court (he had a great showing against Nerlins Noel during the summer, for example).
Very true, hopefully he can shake this. We all know he has the potential to play extremely well, so lets not over think this rating stuff.
he's not going to Duke.
But I wouldn't worry about a drop in performance. Coach B hasn't gotten hold of him yet. Prepare to be Pittsnoggled!
Mitch McGary did not look like a top 5 player in that televised game on ESPN. BUT he does have a high motor and once he is on a team that actually runs plays, he will benefit greatly.
That is what ESPN has him listed as. Rivals and Scout have him at 6"10" 250 and 245 respectively. Seeing film on him his is no way only 225.
espn and their recruiting info should be taken with a grain of salt. They are always way off compared to other recruiting sites in bb and fb.
when it comes to bball recruiting, ESPN is the best of the bunch. Dave Telep who is probably the best bball recruiting analyst works for ESPN. I would take ESPN over Rivals/Scouts when it comes to Basketball recruiting.
I didn't neg you because your idea seems to be common around here, and I think more people need to learn this:
I second the point on Telep. ESPN is the best at bball recruiting. Not at FB, but when it comes to BBall, they are surely the best.
That's quite a drop for MM. I wouldn't call that "slight".
in the country is a pretty sizeable drop. color me disappointed
maybe this will motivate him more going into next season.
Bragging rights only go so far. It will make him more motivated and perhaps keep him on the team longer than a 1 and done. Good for Michigan, good for Mitch. The next Kevin Love.
It's pretty crazy when your high school team is far better than your AAU team. It's almost always the exact opposite. His AAU team runs more stuff around him, but his high school team doesn't play as a team at all. Basically, Brewster's guards and wings just go iso and don't work the ball around. Not to worried about the drop. MM will be very good in a team offense. Good passer, great on the boards, lots of defensive effort, and not afraid to body up in the post.
He struggled scoring recently, but Michigan doesn't need him to average fifteen points per game next year. They need him to rebound and generally be an inside presence.
Would not care if ESPN had McGary as the #100 player in the country! Hyped that he chose Michigan. That's all!
There goes the bragging about 5 star #2 recruit in the nation to my sparty co workers. Still able to brag about 3 in row though
Not that I recommend arguing with MSU fans. That's just a waste of time.
Have both said he's gonna drop when they update. I'd guess he ends up around 20 everywhere.
I can live with that. Who would have thought that we'd be disappointed to "only" have two top-30 players back when people were saying that Beilein couldn't recruit?
Robinson is probably gonna get a 5th star on Rivals.
Maybe Mitch stays two years to develop fully as a player... I hope the best for him and this program. No reason to worry what some website that wants clicks thinks.
I'm just glad we are getting a true center to have on the court
LOL. MM is a power forward. If you're thinking center you're thinking Dwight Howard. Big guys who can't really ball handle or shoot from beyond 7 feet. MM can do both of these things.
At 6' 10" he may not be a true center but he is an upgrade to our strength and height on the court. I think he can easily play both the 4 and 5 in college.
what position did Hakeem olajuwon, arvydas sabonis, yao ming, Patrick Ewing, david robinson, etc etc play?
Mitch McGary isn't a 4 in the Beilein offense.
that 6' 10 guys aren't 4's in Beilein's sytem (ive argued extensively against Horford as getting PT at the 4), I think McGary can be either a 4 or 5 for Beilein.
Just comparing him to Smotrycz, I think he is quicker and has a better handle than Evan. I also think he will be a passable (>30%) 3 point shooter. He seems to have experience playing on the perimeter and he should be able to adapt to all of the screening and cutting actions of a JB 4 man.
I anticpate we will see starting lineups of both McGary/Smot and JoMo/McGary next year depending on the opponent.
I don't know how much college basketball you watch, but 6'10" 240 is plenty of body to play C in college. Most teams play a 6'8" or 6"9" guy at the five.
I'm thrilled that we will get the type of player that we desperately need.
And that's all that matters.
Why does it feel like ESPN would drop Shabazz Muhammad out of their top ten if he signed with Michigan, too?
In other news, Arizona's class looks quite impressive: 4,8,9, and 35. All they need now is a catchy name.
And yet ESPN has continually vaulted GR3 up their rankings, all while being a Michigan commit. Give me a break, man.
Furthermore, ESPN basketball recruiting is the best of the bunch. Much better than Rivals.
Let's see how he looks on the court in A2. Right now, how he looks in HS and AAU games seems irrelevant.
and based on his ability to identify players and talent, that's good enough for me!
I don't care if McGary scores a ton while he's here. I'm just hoping he provides rebounding and energy, which is what he seems to always provide even in his "unimpressive" games. So I'm fine. He was rated in the top 5 on potential, not production, anyways. Still think he can be a great player.
#halol at those who are "disappointed" with McGary. He's a hell of a talent who was ranked as high as #2 in the country. I don't care if ESPN drops him to a 2 star because of a crappy high school season. He tore it up in AAU and that's some tough competition.
Can't wait til he gets to campus along with the others.
Duke and UNC also wanted him. His offer sheet is impressive to say the least.
I don't know why people continue to say it's ESPN. They drop McGary, because he goes to Michigan...yet they almost make GRIII a 5* player.
The conspiracy stuff doesn't even make sense.
McGary will be fine, he, like 99.9% of the guys out there with NBA Level Talent need some coaching to get to the next stage. IMO, he seems slightly disinterested and ready to get to college.
He'll have Michigan's returning players and his good friend Trey Robinson.
Robinson is reminding me more and more of Hardaway Jr., I don't think THJ leaves after this year, but if he did...Robinson could come in and have the same type of freshman impact.
This team to me is SCARY next year with Burke, Hardaway, GRIII, McGary and Morgan.
The main problem, the same one we have today...we have no backup point guard. Burke will again have to do too much and when we face pressure teams like Arkansas, we'll need to PG's on the floor.
The issue with next year isn't a 4* McGary vs. a 5* McGary...it's finding a 2nd ball handler.
We will be a much bigger and more athletic team next year but with only one true point guard. Someone has to develop into a better ball handler. Brundigde or Staukas may be the best options we will have unless Hardaway can channel some of his father's game into his.
We really need CB to make a jump next year, and since he has a pretty good recruiting pedigree and can benefit from the typical frosh-to-soph move, he's got a good shot.
I believe Stauskas can play the point in a pinch. Hes pretty good reading ball screens and has a solid handle.
If Brundidge becomes a useful player, that's just gravy.
due to our current lack of an inside presence, I am extremely excited for him. Plus Stauskas and Robinson are nice sized wings. We are going to put out a pretty big, athletic lineup next year!
3 top ten players and the number 35 player overall...that is FAB FIVE kind of recruiting there!
yes, i know that is only 4 players...
Remember, Blake Griffin was ranked #18 in the country by ESPN.
isn't over with yet. He could climb back with improved play the rest of the way. Either way, I'm still very, very excited about him coming to Michigan. He has huge potential that our coaching staff will bring out. (EDIT: Sorry, by "he" I was talking about MM)
As was commented on by others, I wish ESPN would fix their stats for McGary in regard to his weight. He hasn't been 225 for a long time now. You look at him and know he's at least 250.
Then I remember, we have 3 top 80 recruits, and the highest rated ESPN recruit (McGary) that Beilein has ever had.
So. Um. Yeah. Things are good.
I have faith Beliein will turn him into a beast, however long may take. Plus, if McGary needs development, he may not be "one and done" and he could be on our team for multiple years until he's ready to make the jump to the NBA.
I figure there is atleast a somewhat strong correlation there.
Its a weird phenomenon in college bb recruiting where slight negative indicators may acutally turn out to be a good thing for the program.
I'd rather have 2 years of really good McGary than 1 year of awesome McGary.
Agreed but if he's leaving after his 2nd year anyway he might as well be 1 year of "really good" McGary followed by a breakout year of "awesome" McGary who then enters the draft.
McGary in many ways seems like Novak 2.0 except much bigger and with the potential for more post-ups. If he plays with the same heart that Zack has played with then watch out America.
I've seen guys like Robinson move up in the rankings over time...but has anyone seen one of the top 5 players drop to around 20 before? Any examples? And how did they do after that? Did they prove the ranking drop right or wrong?
The other kid (Elon something, a Jr.) completely dominated Mitch. In fact, Stauskas' team played in the same tournament & Stauskas looked better than MM too. Stauskas' team's C was really nice... goin to AZ, along with a bunch of other 4-5 types. AZ gonna be long!
Anyway, after watching Mitch, I am not surprised to see his rating drop, but also have no concerns about him being a 1 & done! But still very excited to have his large frame inside, and totally understand now why his AAU coach so wisely steered him to Coach B. @ Duke he'd of been shunted to the side if he didn't instantly pan out.
dishing out a lot of cash. They've been kind of irrelevant for the last 4-5 years and now they are raking all these guys in?
They went to the Elite 8 last year
Sean Miller is a great coach, his team has won a game in the dance 4 of the last 5 years
I think McGrary's age is an issue, he's turning 20 this summer and he's bee less than dominant versus kids 2 or 3 years younger than him lately, but he's a good player, the rankings are often based on potential and the scouts see a kid that's already almost 20 years old as a senior in high school they might think he has already reached his limits.
This also puts more pressure on him to go pro early since nobody wants to draft a 24 year old rookie to the NBA.