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Updated ESPN 2013 BBall rankings: Irvin #21, Walton #32, Donnal #97

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Updated ESPN 2013 BBall rankings: Irvin #21, Walton #32, Donnal #97

It looks like ESPN updated their 2013 basketball recruiting rankings.  All 3 Michigan guys make the list:

Zak Irvin-21 (3 away from 5 star status)
Derrick Walton-32
Mark Donnal-97

Both Irvin and Walton moved up, while Donnal took a fairly significant tumble.  Michigan also has the top 2 commits in the big 10 at the moment (although people think MSU has a pretty good shot at #1 overall Jabari Parker).  Another great year for Beilein in terms of talent evaluation.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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August 8th, 2012 at 11:37 AM | James Young? (Score:1)
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What's the deal with the kid from Troy who is top 5 or so on the list?  Any idea which schools really interest him?

wolverine 73

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August 8th, 2012 at 11:39 AM | He likes Kentucky (Score:1)
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a lot.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:03 PM | I have read here (Score:2)
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and elsewhere that there are significant questions about this kid - academic and possibly others.



This is why both Michigan and MSU are not pushing for him at the moment. Does sound like a good fit at KY..rig grades then one-and-done. (allegedly)

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:35 PM | I was wondering the same (Score:1)
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I was wondering the same thing... I also assume the fact he's most likely a one-and-done would play a part in us not recruiting him

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:44 PM | What about Maceo Baston Jr.? (Score:2)
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What about Maceo Baston Jr.?  I know he's not a senior, but is he looking at Michigan?

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August 8th, 2012 at 9:43 PM | Top 2 of Michigan State and (Score:1)
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Top 2 of Michigan State and Kentucky. But its really

Kentucky

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Michigan State

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August 8th, 2012 at 11:38 AM | Donnal has been noticably (Score:3 Normal)
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Donnal has been noticably improving his game each time I see him.  How he drops that much is beyond me.  While I don't think he is a top 50 player, he definitely belongs in the 60-70 range

I'm awesome.  Get over it

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August 8th, 2012 at 11:59 AM | It is either everyone was (Score:2)
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It is either everyone was lying about him performing well over the summer or ESPN is being stupid here.  

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:28 PM | A buddy of mine who is a GA (Score:2)
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A buddy of mine who is a GA at WMU and a Sparty fan said that we got a good one in Donnal and that we are really gonna like what we see when this kid gets on campus.

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:58 PM | I think it has more about (Score:1)
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I think it has more about people rising than him falling. Take for example Irvin....He has risen a lot and in the process has bumped people down in rankings. Being top 100 is nothing to be mad about either, it is extremely respectable.

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August 8th, 2012 at 11:38 AM | Remember when everyone said (Score:5 Normal)
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Remember when everyone said Beilein couldn't recruit?

HOKEAMANIA RUNNIN' WILD

Formerly, TheLastProphet

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August 8th, 2012 at 11:40 AM | beilein (Score:1)
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man Coach Beilein is proving year in year out that he's a great judge of talent evaluation... and with his ability to coach/develop players the future looks bright for M basketball!

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August 8th, 2012 at 11:57 AM | Donnal (Score:5 Underrated)
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Donnal in Beilein's offense is going to be really valuable.  I'm not at all concerned about his ranking. 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:01 PM | I'd also say (Score:5 Normal)
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that if you told Michigan fans 4 years ago that they'd have to decide whether or not they were "concerned" over having a basketball recruit ranked 97, they would have laughed in your face.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:03 PM | Is he coming in at the 4? (Score:1)
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Is he coming in at the 4?

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:17 PM | Most likely 5 in the current (Score:4 Normal)
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Most likely 5 in the current Beilein offensive scheme.  He's a pretty solid 6'9 and a decent athlete, so I wouldn't be worried about losing a lot defensively as long as he can be a consistent rebounder.

Except for the other thing. That hurts the most. But the lack of respect hurts the second most.

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:54 PM | I think he'll be a solid rebounder, FWIW (Score:4 Insightful)
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To compare him to Smotrycz, he looks like he's not as good a shooter (while still being skilled from the outside) but like he's more athletic and a tougher rebounder.  He reminds me of former Wisconsin F Jon Leuer, who would have been perfect for Michigan. 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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August 8th, 2012 at 2:32 PM | Donnal is the next Maurice (Score:1)
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Donnal is the next Maurice Taylor and McGary is the next Robert Traylor.

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August 8th, 2012 at 3:39 PM | I don't like to see anyone (Score:2)
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I don't like to see anyone compared to Mo Taylor.  That guy did not get the most out of his ability.

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August 8th, 2012 at 3:48 PM | He had a nice long NBA career (Score:1)
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He had a nice long NBA career for a guy who didn't get the most out of his ability.

I don't think Mo Taylor was a great talent anyway. very good but not great and then I thought the coaches played him out of position at M. Taylor could leap well but his lateral movement was poor and he was not a fluid athlete, but he had a beautiful shot. Also, the coaches tried to post him on the low blocks to often, when I thought Taylor's best spot was in the high post or out 10-15 feet out on the wing, facing up, taking advantage of his sweet stroke from mid-range. This would have also allowed the Tractor to get the majority of the touches on the low block, making that M hoops squad a better team.

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August 8th, 2012 at 4:20 PM | I don't really care what he (Score:2)
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I don't really care what he did in the NBA.  At Michigan, the guy flat-out loafed on a regular basis.  He was 6'9", 250, and a three-year starter, and he could average only six boards a game in his career?  (To say nothing of the Ed Martin situation...)

 

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:26 PM | Those #21 and #32 spots, if (Score:4 Normal)
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Those #21 and #32 spots, if they're accurate, are about as good as it gets in college basketball.  Too much higher (closer to #1) and you're talking very likely one-and-done territory.  The sweet spot is where you find those really good players who are likely to stick around for a few years.

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:28 PM | Yup (Score:2 Normal)
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Also known as "the Izzo."  He's had an uncanny knack for those guys over his career.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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August 8th, 2012 at 12:57 PM | It's weird that Irvin is #21 (Score:2)
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It's weird that Irvin is #21 here and #62 in Scout's ranking.  That's a pretty broad split there.   ESPN is saying that he's a potential McDonald's All American and Scout doesn't have him in the top half of the 100.

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August 8th, 2012 at 1:50 PM | Former targets (Score:4 Normal)
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Interesting to see Demetrius Jackson up there at #18.  IIRC, at one point it was anyone's guess as to whether he, Walton, or Monte Morris would be the first PG to pull the trigger for Michigan.  Definitely happy that Walton got there first, but still pretty great to know that we had three top 100 point guards (two of them top 40) vying for that spot. 

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August 8th, 2012 at 3:17 PM | It's nice to see Michigan (Score:3 Normal)
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It's nice to see Michigan recruits skyrocket through the rankings in both bball and football over the past year. Keep finding that talent early!

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August 8th, 2012 at 9:11 PM | IMO (Score:1)
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THJ will leave after JR season. You get a year head start on pro ball paycheck and stock will never be as high than at JR year. SR prospects typically gets downgraded for being too old.



Could see as many as 4 declaring early for the draft.

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August 8th, 2012 at 5:42 PM | Young recruitments has been vastly strange. (Score:1)
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Five star cruit who hasn't gotten ANY love from the instate schools. Don't know if its attiude or his desire not to stay instate...but no one has been on his radar.

A sidenote...I don't want Izzo anywhere near Parker.

Lucky enough to have my own JT wristband!!

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August 8th, 2012 at 10:35 PM | Michigan now #2 in ESPN team recruiting rankings (Score:1)
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I know this will change drastically by signing day, but we'll still be Top 10.

Think Izzo is getting nervous yet?

It's just too bad Beilein can't recruit Detroit.

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