Update: Treetops Resort now reports $430,000 in damages
Sorry to poke a finger in a black eye, but this story just gets worse. If you don't want to reiterate, move along.
I can only imagine the pressure inside this frat and the finger pointing, the divergent needs to cover one's own ass and rat out a fellow "brother" versus the wish to circle the wagons. The stereotype says that these kids have a "rich parents" who can easily dole out the money and get their kids off the hook. I'm not so sure about that. And anyway, this is some serious coin we are talking about.
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/02/treetops_resorts_…
Sounds exactly like something a member of an affected sorority house would say. Basically what that sounds like is refusal to take responsibility for your actions.
The fact that she is playing the victim card is pretty pathetic.
"I heard from a sorority member affected that they did basically the same amount of damage last year that they did this year but were never kicked out or reprimanded, and the going theory is that Treetops only invited them back so that they could kick them out and sue them later."
Good imagination. After last year many ski lodges did not want U-M students anymore, so this year the kids were intentionally booking their rooms with out of state I.D.s, to circumvent the heat.
Sounds totally legit. Hotels love to do long cons that span years and rely on massive destruction to their facilities during a peak season.
wounder how much is call-sam fees. did not take them long to jump up 300K. might have some to fix the golf course.
Whenever you go on a trip like this, whether its a group of friends or a whole fraternity, there's almost always that one friend that has a little too much to drink. The problem now is you have a bunch of people who have way too much to drink. One person does something, and then another, and eventually it moves to mob mentality. "Why not join along?" "Everyone's doing it."
Obviously when you're drinking you hardly ever give real thought to consequences for your actions. I think mob mentality took over, and people, in their drunken stupor, just didn't think that what they were doing was going to cost that much to replace. Or they just didn't think about it at all, which is the more likely scenario. They just wanted to raze hell.
It's the University of Michigan. Of course it's more than just booze. I think we all (who went to Michigan) know that.
No, we don't.
I knew a few folks who smoked a bit every now and then, but let's not pretend like it was an automatic given. Or that there is much more than that going on for most everyone.
I'm not saying it was a given that everybody did it. I'm saying it's fairly common knowledge of where to go/who to talk to if one seeks it. You can be willfully ignorant if you want or just not care. Michigan like all the other high echelon schools have some interesting side activities.
Straight cash homie.
(I'm not talking about weed)
You ran with the wrong student groups apparently.
Considering all my groups of friends have graduated and are onto having successful careers as doctors, lawyers, engineers and businessmen, I think I ran with a fine crop of students.
Sorry I can't prevent you from being judgmental.
No, you've got me. The only conceivable reason that you wouldn't want to do blow is because of a risk of losing future earning potential.
Again sorry I can't prevent you from being a judgmental person of other people's decisions.
And you're a Gooner too? lol same here.
Because drug use doesn't occur at virtually every college in the world?
Or are you somehow insinuating that had it just been drunk college students, versus drunk AND HIGH (!!!) college students, the damages would have been less?
Lol no. I'm just saying that amount of damage and crazyness must have more than just drunk and high kids running around. I can't imagine high kids being too active if at all. Obviously other drugs at play. It's not that hard to get access to them especially UM. That's all I meant by my post. Apparently people don't like to know what they don't hear/see.
The issue (as I can tell from your other posts here) is that drugs were probably involved, and that seems based on the amount of damage versus some perceived "limit" that alcohol places on destruction. I'm sure that isn't your point, but that is what I'm reading.
Drugs were probably involved because college kids in 2015, like they did for decades before, can get f*ed up in innumerable ways. But I absolutely remember places getting trashed when people got drunk, and how people enter into a frame of mind where smashing entire ceilings is "acceptable" is kind of irrelevant to me. They messed up someone else's place for no good, and if they did so under the influence of cheap vodka, high-end cocaine, Molly, Alabama Crank Yankers, whatever isn't anywhere near the top of my list of things that matter.
"...one friend that has a little too much to drink..."
In this scenerio "drink" means copious amounts of cocaine, Adderall, molly, hard liquor, cheap canned beer. And a complex that the people in this up north backwoods town are poor, dumb peasants in flyover country and I can do what I want to their crappy enclave. My dad's checkbook will take care of it and these rubes here can clean up my mess while I plan my spring break trip to Mexico. Did I mention I'm in Ross? Because I'm in Ross. Or I'm going to law school, bro.
What, does the Treetops president need to redecorate his office? /s
This is a joke right? Tell me you're kidding. You have never met anyone from a rural area that took offense to that term? Have you ever met anyone from a rural area? Ever?
You've never been outside of Long Island/Ann Arbor have you? Reading this is actually unbelievable. I'm not going to do you the dignity of even treating anything written in your second to third paragraphs as being worthy of a response. It's asinine.
In regards to your final sentence, I don't think that every person in Gaylord should be PAINTED WITH ONE FUCKING BRUSH.
Do you realize that a good number of people live in northern Michigan precisely because they don't want to live in a place like New York? And that this is a conscious decision?
I'm angry and defensive because you were openly attacking a place very dear to me in a ridiculous and uneducated manner and then followed that up with increasingly bizarre statements regarding the emotional predilections of its residents that reeked of a completely unhinged and arrogant viewpoint.
There are some people who think this of the ENTIRE SOUTHERN UNITED STATES! It makes me sick when people congratulate themselves for their own very limited worldview and write off millions of people as hayseeds with the sweep of an arm. Guess what dickwad, there are people all over the country living in "rural" communities who are WAY FUCKING SMARTER THAN YOU.
Your arguments have gone from semi-reasonable to just blatant, blanket justifications for whatever ax you are trying to grind. The crowd here as spoken, and you are in the severe minority.
They are young, dumb kids, they are also people. They are young, dumb kids who showed a blatant disrespect for other people's property and are now going to pay for it, as they should.
You and I can't possibly know the dollar value of the damage. It could be $430,000, it could be less. It's useless to speculate on that, and even more useless to speculate that this is nothing more than a cash grab due to "deep seeded jealousy and inferiority." How would you know?
have prosecutorial discretion. only mike rola does.
nobody forced the council to vote on it. i think it was merely an agenda item at their next meeting after this happened. and the elected prosecutor is the chief law enforcement officer of any respective county. he can do basically as he pleases and the worst that can be done is to turn him out at the next election. now, mike is going to file charges unless through some incredible miracle they are unable to actually determine some/all of the folks that did this, but nobody has the power to force him to do it.
PeterKlima vs MGoBlog round... 10?
let those committed to the seriously silly wing of the psych ward out on Sundays for family visits and somebody wasn't keeping an eye on their laptop? That's some really goofy ranting goin on there.
but it's nice to see you're wearing a helmet now. Good decision.
How about you sit this one out.
We have a rule for our 2-year old: it's allowed unless it hurts someone else or someone else's property. It took him an hour to figure this out.
Your kid is way too young to be smoking weed.
...alum who grew up in that area and misses it tremendously I find this entire situation extremely embarassing. I am unsurprised by the reaction of the guilty parties since I knew quite a few folks from that part of the world with a similar mindset when I was on campus.
Personally, if the Unversity really wanted to make a statement about their values they would eject the individuals involved, refund their tuition, and wish them well in life. There are plenty of quality individuals out there that would jump at the chance to take their places on campus.
There is nothing wrong with getting drunk and having a good time, but this level of property damage is the work of a group of people that simply do not share the core values of the University of Michigan that I know and love.
Keep milking. More publicity the better.
Not /s, Treetops will make a killing next year.
Genuinely curious, why do you think they will make a killing next year? Lots of people won't want to start flocking to a place with a reputation for destruction by psychotic college kids.
Last time I was there, they were in need of renovation. I'll go skiing there next year. (won't wear my Michigan sweatshirt, though...)
Under the assumption said college kids won't be allowed bookings of more than 20 (from the same place) people at a time or however they do it.
Not to mention renovations.