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I don't think they changed Les at all actually
national champs baby
Patrick Hruby is doing God's work.
first comment: "EVERY ATHLETE HAS ASPIRATIONS OF WINNING AND WE HAVE OUR FAVORITES BUT IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO OTHER STUDENTS ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, TOO!"
stupid Pistons and their refusal to tank properly
rundown of Michigan's riser
needs moar usage
so much for that
This list is completely arbitrary and not a genuine analysis of the relative merits of state fossils.
will be michigan's highest pick in a while
money has to go somewhere
I am only motivated by people who have no opinion about me.
the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection
but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?
Doesn't mean he necessarily met Michigan's standards. And what do you expect a mother to say? Whatever the reason, I am sure there was a good one for Standifer/the coaching staff to go in a different direction.
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In my opinion, if a kid's mother says her kid has the grades we should take her at her word. There are a lot of plausable reasons why Standifer is no longer a Michigan commit. Lets move on and not get into a 17 or 18 year old kid's business...
No, let's get into his business! People magazine should invest in HS recruiting. I'll get a photographer to stalk out his house.
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The Free Press sent not one but two investigative reporters to Florida, to investigate Dorsey. Talk to acquaintances, go to the courthouse to check records, etc.
That was in addition to stories by Mark Snyder, not one but two columns by Drew Sharp, and one column by Mick McCabe. There was a freep.com blog post by Jamie Samuelson as well. That's at least five bodies assigned to "Demar Dorsey" at one point or another.
And, it is clear: Dorsey was a pawn in the Freep's proxy war against Rich Rodriguez. And the field of battle that was very carefully chosen by the Free Press was "Respectability." That was the guts of the Stretchgate story; that after more than a lifetime of clean football at Michigan, Rodriguez and Barwis' methods were somehow taking the program down a dirty path. Ditto the Dorsey story; the narrative was more dirtiness in the form of players who do not fit the Michigan Man Mold.
So your joking about journalistic stakeouts is apt. I am not criticizing you one bit. But what you rightly suggest is also not so funny when you think about the recent past.
I hope you have a Merry Christmas, Section 1.
Oh, knock it off. It's since been well established that Dorsey wasn't nearly up to standards as a student. That's why no other D1 school took him, either. Even Louisville couldn't get him qualified. So give it up already.
I do think that Michigan admissions made their determination apart from Free Press reporting. So the Free Press didn't, as far as I know, perform any publi service -- they didn't save the greater University of Michigan community from associating with this terrible young man by forcing a negative decision on admissions.
I responded to a half-humorous point about journo-stalking high school athletes. And you can say a lot of things about Dorsey but what everybody would have to agree on is that he was the subject of some remarkable Freep journo-stalking.
That was my point, and I was right.
But still, I understand where you are coming from. Jim Harbaugh would have been so wonderful.
Agree, This is a tough thing for all the kids that are trying to go to a D1 school, big decisions. I have no problem if he is changing his mind, it happens. I wish him luck where ever he goes.
We have no idea what happened one way or the other. The kid isn't a free agent, he is a high school student.
First ever, not even sure what I did wrong. FAIL.
ON TO THE NEXT ONE
So a conventional decommit then, I see. It seems to be mutual thing, so good luck to him wherever he goes. We should actually be able to improve our class because of this, it was getting too cramped and I would hate to turn down a guy like Yuri Wright.
COYS and lets go Detroit FC!
Assuming the very worst from our coaches, they thought could get a better player so they decided to move on. Isn't that still better than getting a guy on campus for a year and then cutting him a la Saban and Miles?
this is what happened.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
Never said anyone was (although on the Rivals board people are tossing it out there).
As a coach, that's probably a dangerous precident to set where you cut up a kids scholarship because you found a player better than him. I'm not suggesting that's what I think happened, I'm still believing this is either a grades thing or maybe now that he's garnering more attention from top schools he wants to take all the free visits and see some other schools, which I don't have a problem with. But I agree with the staff and I've thought this way for years, you're not committed unless you stop taking visits and stop looking around. Kids these days change their minds on a whim and as a head coach you can run a good program if these "commits" are changing their minds with every visit that they take and wavering with all the propaganda being fed to them about why you shouldn't go to school X and why you should come to school Y. You don't want to be scrambling around, especially this late in the game, looking for new guys to replace a kid who was never really committed to you in the first place.
It's killing LSU and Alabama.
"After all was said and done, there was nothing left to do."
In all fairness though, the South is chalk full of kids so much that you can piss off one high school's coach and still have more D-1 prospects than you know what to do with (probably just step over them in the hallway and maintain that as the captain of the ship and need to stay composed for the team's sake), and it is tougher to piss off coaches in the Midwest when there is a smaller pool of recruiting talent coming from here. That being said, dropping a kid's scholarship just pisses off one high school coach, one family, and one kid. It isn't that damaging, especially if you already have a repuation for integrity.
"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.
It could be that coaches either, 1) got a better evaluation of his character and didn't like it, or 2) we want to go for better talent
"We are gonna get drunk with Russell Crowe and we're gonna head-butt some goddamn kangaroos" - Ari Gold
saw the depth chart at CB.
It's tough being Blue in Columbus!!!
It seems he probably had an honest convo with the coaches about this and possibly that there was an off chance he may not qualify. After they talked, it sounds like both parties agreed it would be best to look elsewhere. I wish him the best and hope he had great success somewhere outside of the big ten :)
We had room for Wright regardless of what happens with Standifer. I agree with expatriate , we don't want another situation such as what happened with Dorsey. Luckily there is plenty of talent still available to fill the viod.
"Whoa, Nellie"--Keith Jackson
I respect the right of Hoke & Standifer to keep their reasons to themselves. Privacy is a reasonable thing that we all appreciate.
There could easily have been a combination of things. Grades are one possible issue. Character another. Fit another. Depth another. Who knows.
This being the internet, and a Michigan sports blog, and the beginning of the off-season, well, speculation will run rampant. Isn't that what the Internet is for? However, neither Hoke nor Standifer owe anyone anything as to the reason for the change.
Hoke & Mattison have received high marks for being honest. Perhaps as they looked at Yuri Wright, or others who will commit shortly, they were honest enough to tell Standifer, "we'll honor your commitment to us, and ours to you. You have a spot. However, you are going to need to compete to start. There are no guarantees you will play. You likely won't see the field for several years, maybe only on special teams."
If something like this happened, neither party would want it to be public.
"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi
Right. Assuming Standifer had no issues with grades or discipline, I have no reason to believe the coaches did anything wrong here -- ie, nudge Standifer out. Unless or until there's evidence that the staff does that sort of thing, they're presumed 100 percent innocent.
More likely: the "market" is just sorting itself out. At the time Standifer signed, recruits like Wright and Reeves were not so much on M's radar. Now that they are, well, the coaches in no way intend to bump Standifer. But would they be crushed if he wants to leave (thereby creating a slot for a Wright or Reeves)? Unlikely. So when Standifer gets nervous, the coaches assure him that he's still safe and wanted. But if he wants to explore other opportunities, they don't exactly fight him on it. And why should they? Would you?
You seem to be trying to prove their innocence. Hypothetically (as you say), if the coaches wouldn't feel like they are missing out on too much then it could be equally plausible they sowed the seeds of his unrest themselves. I don't think Hoke is like that, but if he is, then we should call him out on it. Biggest thing from the earlier thread was Ace said that Treadwell is completely fine and no changes there (he also said he thought Treadwell just loved Michigan anyways), which if Michigan did drop him, Treadwell's coach would be immediately in Treadwell's ear about it.
Not all DI qualifiters qualify at Michigan. We know this from past evidence. We go through this year after year.
In any case, I don't want to investigate this any further. Standifer hopefully will end up in a good situation, and I wish him the best.
I hope he goes somewhere and excels. Just not a BIg 10 school or Notre Dame.
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Said it WAS something to do with school, but he didn't specify and said he was just going to leave it at that.
2011 11-2 Sugar Bowl Champs
Agree; although the depth chart still looks very favorable for any DB coming into Ann Arbor. Floyd will be a senior, Countess will have his side locked down for at least 2 more years, with Avery and Brown as the only other CBs on the roster...
...but Raymon Taylor, Terrance Talbott and Delonte Hollowell are all youngsters who should compete for the position Floyd will vacate after the 2012 season. Still, I have to agree that I don't think the depth chart at CB will scare any recruits away. And if any CB is ever scared off by the depth chart, chances are they are better off elsewhere anyhow. Competion is a good thing....always.
"One man. Goodbye! Hello Heisman!"
Laquon Treadwell - his WR teammate? But from a defensive back point of view this could end up being a positive if we can find a really good player to replace him with.
"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans! Now go out there and make it happen!"
- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22 OSU 0)
A couple of sources noted that Treadwell has said that this doesn't affect Michigan's position with him. He sent out a tweet to that effect and I think that Ace may have spoken with him too.
...re-tweeted a post last night from Laquon Treadwell that read, "Anthony's decision doesnt affect my choice with the school i choose ." Take that for what it is worth.
Syracuse has recruited him and his recruiters are Scot Shafer and Tyrone Wheatley per Rivals
This can't be good for our chances with Laquon Treadwell
Didn't you read the posts from 2 and 6 minutes earlier? Treadwell tweeted it had no bearing on his decision.
Treadwell can tweet that all day long, but going from having a good friend and teammate on the team to not having him will certainly make a difference, whether or not Treadwell says so or not right now.
Treadwell may be one of those guys who is very focused on finding the right fit for himself, regardless of where his friends go. That is certainly the advice people should be giving him.
Unless Treadewll is already sold on UM and just riding out the process for a few more months.
hopefully the post was irony and not ignorance.
Wasting away in Ohio, a Wolverine in a sea of red and grey
But isn't necessarily bad either
I am pretty sure AS was expected to have his Official visit this weekend, I also believe you have to have passed the NCAA Clearinghouse to take an official. So that might be our clue right there.
Given that M has been hot on the heels of Wright, probably it was pretty clear to Standifer where he would stand in the pecking-order. Happens all the time. Recruits aren't stupid. Standifer would probably be better off elsewhere. He knew it. M knew it. Period.
I think you are overestimating these kids' evaluations of their abilities. They pretty much dominate their high school games and then get bombarded with fans, coaches, and recruiting sites about how talented they are. They usually don't have fears about competing with each other for spots. Look at any SEC recruiting class; lots of highly ranked kids who seem like they would have a better shot at getting immediate playing time elsewhere.
It seems it would be in the best interest of both parties (the coaches and Standifer) to come out with a brief statement to squash any rumors that are circulating, and get ahead of more of them that are sure to come out.
As for me, I'll withold any criticism unless there are reports that come out in contrast to the "mutual" idea.
~Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, it is that we are powerful beyond measure~
I just don't imagine many guys at the high D1 level get scared off by the prospect of fighting for playing time with other recruits. This is true at most positions, but especially at CB I would imagine, where 4+ guys are going to receive major playing time every year. It's not like he's a QB where the entrenched starter is going to be there for years.
I dunno. I'd be a bit bummed if he decommitted because Hoke wasn't showing him the love as far as playing time went.
Michigan was recruiting him and cooled. He went elsewhere.
Who was it?
Are you thinking of Wayne Morgan? He hasn't picked a school yet.
Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20
CB Wayne Morgan was a 4* star when we offered him and fell to a 3* due to poor camp performances, I believe.
The only other safety I've heard about is 5* Shaq Thompson.