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Unfounded and ridiculous rumor (Move along)

[ED:BISB: Can't unpublish or lock because of stupid Javascript.  In the meantime, it stays up because it is at least noteworthy that a 'professional' (#HALOL) journalist raised the issue, and because I don't want to out-and-out delete it. Sufficed to say that it is certainly false. Rob Parker is a professional Concern Troll.]

Hey guys, sorry if this has been discussed some place else. I searched and didn't find anything. I was watching Sports Final Edition on Channel 4 for those of us in SE Michigan. They started talking about State so I put my headphones on and went back to studying. I saw some Gardner highlight and I took my headphones off long enough just to hear Rob Parker talking about Gardner being the QB of the future and how big of a loss it would be if he were to leave. WTF is this about? I know Parker is full of BS sometimes (read: most of the time) but is there any substance to this? No other mention on the interwebz of this that I could find. Like I said, I just caught the end of the interview, so I apologize if I may have missed anything more substantive that he said. Not trying to stir any panic or anything.

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:42 AM | that would be devastating, (Score:1 Normal)
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that would be devastating, lets hope these rumors don't have any legs behind them. 

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:59 AM | The only rumor is the rumor that the OP is trying to (Score:4 Normal)
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start. The OP doesn't even know what the broadcaster actually said, but he's still chalking it up to Gardner transferring.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:03 AM | Are you seriously this dense? (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Are you seriously this dense?

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:24 AM | Haha (Score:5 Normal)
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Considering that you actually believed something out of the mouth of Rob Parker, it's pretty hypocritical for you to call anyone else that.

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October 24th, 2011 at 3:10 AM | Doesn't sound like you heard what he actually said. (Score:5 Normal)
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"I took my headphones off long enough just to hear Rob Parker talking about Gardner being the QB of the future and how big of a loss it would be if he were to leave".

You heard part of a telecast. You started a post based on listening to half of a segment from a disreputable newscaster. So no, I'm not the dense one here. Thanks for throwing out the insult though.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:47 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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First off it was bye week, then msu wins in thriller, now this, hopes its all bs

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:47 AM | Very Unlikely (Score:5 Normal)
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He and Denard are very close.  Good chance he could start over Denard next year in a more traditional set with Denard being moved to a hybrid role.Given he is already seeing playing time and the coach said as much in terms of him being the more accurate passer, I don't know why he would transfer.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:24 AM | Where do you get this stuff? (Score:0 Overrated)
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Where do you get this stuff?  In Coach Hoke's press conference this week, he said (not quoting) that the idea of starting Devin over Denard hadn't come close to entering his mind, and that the two weren't even close in terms of playing QB at Michigan.

Furthermore, the chances that Denard moves to a "hybrid role" next season would leave us with two QBs on the depth chart, one being a RS Freshman.

I don't want Devin to transfer, as we need QB depth desparately right now.  That said, I don't understand why people are penciling him in to play more when in the few snaps we have seen, he has been terible (poor reads, missing open receivers, throwing passes 5 yds past the line of scrimmage, and crazy circular circuis runs on fourth down).  Everything considered, I think the chances of him trasnfering are probably greater than him beating out the defending B1G offensive player of the year at QB, and in both cases, I think the chances are very very small.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:31 AM | Michigan has worked No. 2 (Score:3 Normal)
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Michigan has worked No. 2 quarterback Devin Gardner into the game plan in certain situations, but according to the Detroit Free Press, Borges said on a radio show last week that any idea of benching Robinson for Gardner was "flat ridiculous."


"I don't claim to be the smartest guy in the world," Borges said, "but I'm not taking 300 yards of total offense out of the game."

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October 24th, 2011 at 3:51 AM | "he has been terible (poor (Score:1 Trolling)
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"he has been terible (poor reads, missing open receivers, throwing passes 5 yds past the line of scrimmage, and crazy circular circuis runs on fourth down)."

BS

For starters you seem to be making two issues out of one with the "poor reads" and "missed receivers"... But yeah, he's had a few of those. Which is shocking considering the number of snaps he's had. /s

He was 1-1/2 yards past the line LOS on that pass. One stride. Not 5 yards or even 2.

It was a broken 4th and 22 where he busted his ass trying to make something out of nothing (would have been a hero had it been 4th and 10). 

As far as your quotes from the couches...

Meaningless really. As they assume that Denard would be benched in favor of Devin and almost no one has called for that.  As for the Brady Hoke "non-quote"... That's not even paraphrasing (more like embellishment or a heavy dose of "reading into") because he said nothing of the sort. He simply dismissed some fans calls for Devin to start over Denard at this time.

BTW- Moving Denard to another role wouldn't take him off of the team or leave us with "2 QBs next season... ". We'd have the same players regardless of what you call them. 

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October 24th, 2011 at 6:55 AM | The point that I was trying (Score:4 Normal)
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The point that I was trying to make was that in limited action this season, Devin Gardner has not looked like he is ready (or even close to ready, for that matter) to supplant the starting QB of a 6-1 team.  He has looked bad in games, and I'm assuming that the coaches haven't seen enough in practice to put him over Denard either.

And yes, there is a difference between making a poor read (throwing into coverage instead of a wide open Stephen Hopkins) and missing receivers (inaccuracy throwing to the desired target).

And moving Denard to a different position obviously doesn't remove him from the roster, but if Devin goes down, what do you do?  Ask Denard to pick up from where he left off last year, or hand the ball over to the only other remaining option on your team at QB.

Everyone is overreacting WAY too much to our one loss this season.  As it stands now, we are a 6-1, soon to be 7-1 team, ranked in the top 25, with a damn good QB, and a backup with a lot of upside.  Let's not get too carried away here.

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October 24th, 2011 at 6:56 AM | I guess you don't understand football... (Score:0 Normal)
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a poor read is a QB reading something wrong in the defense while a missed receiver is an inaccurate pass. They are definitely not the same thing.

Look, it's clear from comments you have made since the MSU game that you want Devin in at QB but as the coaches said, it isn't happening.

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October 24th, 2011 at 8:11 AM | I agree (Score:1 Normal)
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that the coaches have not indicated that a quarterbaclk switch was imminent, and I think that this was a reckless post by the OP, but I think it is inaccurate for a lot of the above posts to refer to Gardner's performance this year as bad in game, etc.  In limited action, Gardner has done nothing but make me want to see more of him.  It is not easy to be spotted into a game at any point and perform well immediately, and I think Gardner has looked imposing and very dangerous as a duel threat in his time this year.  Taking 300 yards "off the field" is different than deciding to implement something that can made both Denard and Gardner as effective as possible together.  I have not heard any rumors as of yet, but for a highly touted recruit with Gardner's physical tools, really, how long do you expect him to wait?

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October 24th, 2011 at 9:35 AM | I agree (Score:1)
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Devin is very imposing and I believe it would be threatening to duel him as well.

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October 24th, 2011 at 10:54 AM | a poor read is a QB reading (Score:1)
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a poor read is a QB reading something wrong in the defense while a missed receiver is an inaccurate pass. They are definitely not the same thing.

I get it: you're Jim Carty. Welcome back to Ann Arbor.

 

 

 

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October 24th, 2011 at 2:22 PM | ..... (Score:1)
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October 24th, 2011 at 2:20 PM | "And yes, there is a (Score:1)
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"And yes, there is a difference between making a poor read (throwing into coverage instead of a wide open Stephen Hopkins) and missing receivers (inaccuracy throwing to the desired target)."

"a poor read is a QB reading something wrong in the defense while a missed receiver is an inaccurate pass. They are definitely not the same thing."

 

*sigh*

I assumed he was equating the two because I've heard no one complaing about Devin's accuracy (especially relative to Denard).

My apologies then...

You didn't make two complaints out of one... You simply made one up.

Better?

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October 24th, 2011 at 6:55 AM | Well that's all for this (Score:1 Normal)
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Well that's all for this year. Frankly it wouldn't surprise me to see Devin get more reps as the No 1 QB next year. I don't think he'll ever fullly start over Denard, but I think we'll a lot more of Denard moving around the field

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October 24th, 2011 at 9:34 AM | Yes -- it's the offense (Score:2 Normal)
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Hoke and Borges pretty much said (when questioned about what we saw against MSU) that the offense they have been installing involves both players. I don't think they will give up on it after basically only one game with it firmly in place. Think of Denard as a captain, with Devin as a lieutenant. I don't think there is any confusion on the team about who is who.

From the point of view of teaching, which is really what college-level coaches do, Michigan's open week is well-placed this year -- this team is going to win most of its remaining games.

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:48 AM | My CWPF's (Score:3 Normal)
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You know, Close Warm Personal Friends tell me and I will quote, "Rob Who?"

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:50 AM | DG transferring would make no sense. (Score:4 Normal)
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I'm not sure why he would transfer, seeing as he is playing in games with some regularity and will be the starting QB after next season. If he transferred, he'd have to redshirt/lose a year of eligibility, so he'd basically be transferring to play in a new place in 2013, the same time that he'd be starting here.

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:50 AM | Devin is not going anywhere (Score:3 Normal)
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Devin is not going anywhere

ALL ABOARD THE A-TRAIN!!!!!

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:50 AM | no way (Score:0 Trolling)
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i think that is why he is playing so much as it is... I mean that is the only reason I see to disrupt thr offense by putting in different packages all the time is more to please him and keep him happy versus good of the team. Now saying that I do think he is one of the best eleven on the team and should be out there and he is 1 injury from playing full time. So I call BS on this 100 percent.  HE IS PLAYING WHY LEAVE NOW?

21 years of coaching and every senior who stayed had at least 1 big ten title... That is what " Those who stay will be champions" will really get you Ohio native Bo Schembechler.

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October 24th, 2011 at 5:31 AM | That's a plausible explanation for the "report". (Score:4 Normal)
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Maybe the context (which the OP admits he hasn't the foggiest idea of) was exactly this: a discussion of why Gardner is seeing so much of the field? Of course they want to keep him happy while he waits his turn.

People piling on Parker here are making the same mistake as the OP--as far as I can tell nobody here has any idea what he was actually saying (and neither do I). But if he were really rumor-mongering a transfer there'd be a bit of an internet or media echo, which there isn't except for this post. I'm guessing the OP completely misunderstood.

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:57 AM | I feel like we've gone over this at least a hundred times. (Score:2 Normal)
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Devin Gardner is not transferring. Neithe is Denard. Stop trying to incite a panic-fest.

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:58 AM | Rob Parker's "moles" or (Score:1)
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Rob Parker's "moles" or whatever must be telling him some bs.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:00 AM | Sounds like this reporter was (Score:1)
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Sounds like this reporter was just talking out of his...it doesn't appear there's any substance to this.  The media loves to hate Michigan.  And sometimes they'll do whatever they can to play mind games.  sparty is the darling right now and that's fine.  I wouldn't worry too much about what some slap on channel 4 is saying.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:01 AM | Looking @ devin's twitter, he (Score:1)
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Looking @ devin's twitter, he is all blue. 

Looking for BTTYS Nike sb Michigan Dunk Highs size 14, hit me up. 

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:25 AM | Kentucky?  Oh No! (Score:3 Normal)
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Kentucky?  Oh No!

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:34 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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No wayyyy boise state !!!!!!!!!!!

"The millions, the proud, the Wolverines"

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:03 AM | Rob Parker said this (Score:2 Normal)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......I will laugh at him and head to the Waffle House. Have a good one folks.

 

GO BLUE!! 

I am drunk, or I wouldn't be talking to you.


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October 24th, 2011 at 1:06 AM | Is this the same Rob Parker (Score:2 Normal)
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Is this the same Rob Parker who got suspended by the Detroit News for two weeks for falsely reporting that Kirk Cousins was involved in a fight with members of the MSU hockey team and who subsequently resigned from the Detroit News after asking Rod Marinelli if he wished that his daughter had married a better defensive coordinator? Not exactly a bastion of journalistic integrity.

Hail to the college whose colors we wear,

Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:07 AM | Yes.  The same one who (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Yes.  The same one who inexpicably appears on ESPN with regularity.  Like I said, I wasn't trying to incite anything.  Just caught the tail end of the that interview talking about how devastating it would be and I was trying to get more info tis all. 

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:13 AM | "Devastating it would be" (Score:1)
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Hell, if one of my Ohio State family members won the lotto, that "Would be devastating." If someone that i cared about died, "That would be devastating." You cannot bring up a would if situation and claim that it is true. Hell, if i knew the world is ending, "That would be devastating."

I am drunk, or I wouldn't be talking to you.


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October 24th, 2011 at 1:05 AM | yeah right (Score:1)
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yeah right

"He has an uncanny ability to get kids to believe in him and believe in themselves. He doesn't do it with smooth words. He's not smooth. He does it by being the same genuine person day after day." ~Jason Whitlock on Brady Hoke

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:09 AM | ha.lol. not happening. (Score:0 Redundant)
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ha.lol. not happening.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:16 AM | Come on. Take this post down. (Score:1)
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Come on. Take this post down.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:19 AM | 4 Reasons I Don't Buy This (Score:2)
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1) It's Rob Parker

2) Gardner has been getting playing time and is a QB of the future.

3) Gardner loves Michigan 

4) IT'S ROB PARKER

4th Generation Student

Class of 2014

Go Blue!

 

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October 24th, 2011 at 7:51 AM | (Score:2 Normal)
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5) Its Rob Parker

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:27 AM | Right before the Gardner bit (Score:3 Normal)
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Right before the Gardner bit Parker implied Craig James killed five hookers while he was at SMU. 

The swag is back. 

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:37 AM | yeah but Craig James did KILL (Score:4 Normal)
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yeah but Craig James did KILL FIVE HOOKERS WHILE HE WAS AT SMU

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:37 AM | wait (Score:3 Normal)
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I am confused now.  I would think that Rob Parker would report that Craig James was an upstanding citizen during his time at SMU, not once commiting a single act of murder.  He ignores all of the unpublished rumored evidence that CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:35 AM | So know one has pointed out the obvious (Score:4 Normal)
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The TV guy was saying how devastating it would be if Garner trasferred. That's like saying, "damn, this guy is really good. I hope he never transfers." This has got to be the stupidest fear mongering post I've seen in a long while. Please delete.

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October 24th, 2011 at 9:37 AM | I'll point out the obvious. (Score:2)
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I'll point out the obvious. It's "no", not "know".

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:43 AM | The title of the thread gave (Score:0 Trolling)
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The title of the thread gave me a wtf moment, I think he's staying.

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October 24th, 2011 at 2:26 AM | Well if he did (Score:1)
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leave, it would be devastating because we'd have the fragile Denard and a RS Freshmen for QB's

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October 24th, 2011 at 2:38 AM | Obviously nobody's saying "go ahead and leave Devin" (Score:1)
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but Denard has been a lot less fragile this year. The only game he's left was against MSU, and only after about three blatant personal fouls at that. Other than that, he missed snaps against Northwestern with a finger issue and I think that's it.

Go Blue!

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October 24th, 2011 at 3:30 AM | 1) Rob Parker is just (Score:0 Flamebait)
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1) Rob Parker is just stirring up a pot to get some news going in a bye week. Now every local news outlet (Freep, Detnews, etc.) will report some bullshit story based on HIS information. (Trying to get some revenge on the detnews?) Someone will awkwardly ask Hoke about it, someone will ask Devin, etc. It might be his way to stay relevant locally while he's doing it big on ESPN.  He has a few restaurants in Detroit, so it's in his best interest to keep is name flowing here even though he has a national presence on 'First Take'.

2) Clearly, it worked. Michigan fans flip a shit when they here something like this. Everyone just needs to chill.

3) I know the kid loves Michigan, but I really don't like the way he has been used the past few weeks. I am sure he and his family aren't the happiest either, especially with Denard's struggles. I hope he gets some snaps with the first team O and get's complete drives in games instead of this one play in and out bullshit. It's just a tough situation and people are really hell bent on their opinions in regards to it. *His medical redshirt status isn't known yet, so you MUST consider him a sophomore.  

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October 24th, 2011 at 6:47 AM | I am sorry (Score:0 Flamebait)
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when Devin Gardner committed to Michigan, he knew for a fact that there was Tate Forcier and Denard Robinson in front of him. At the time it was maybe Denard Robinson, and Tate Forcier the returning starter. My point is Devin committed with two in front of him, and knew the risks. He in fact is a lot closer to playing time now than he was going to be, and actually gets some game time.

Obviously if he is a competitor, he should want to play, but why would he not be "the happiest" when he is in the situation he signed up for?  Frankly the fact that he is seeing the field in situations other than as a backup is unusual, and means the coaches value him.

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October 24th, 2011 at 9:03 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
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I love that your first point criticizes Rob Parker for blind speculation and your third point blindly speculates about the feelings of Devin and his family.

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