The Uncommitable offer

Submitted by Bo Schemheckler on

What is the point of an uncommitable offer? I don't see the difference between saying "we are very interested in you and may offer you soon" and saying here is an offer that means next to nothing because you can't commit to it. Am I missing something here?

Esterhaus

July 8th, 2015 at 4:31 PM ^

 

In my day it was always referred-to as [that truncation]. However I accept the neggings for having missed the prior post with its sad pizza identification. Personally, I've never eaten either Papa John's or Sarpino's - I live in Chicago and we have 4 a.m. delivery for superior inferior product. How Domino's survives here I have no idea, although I suspect they take EBT and that might help.

May I buy you guys a Papa John"s? Toilet paper not included.

Moonlight Graham

July 8th, 2015 at 5:18 PM ^

It was fairly, somewhat awesome to see Sad Urban when it first came out, I shared it on Facebook ha ha. But remember: 

Michigan State beat him, in the year that was Michigan's last opportunity to face Ohio State in the B10CG (before moving into the same division) and MSU went on to win the 100th Rose Bowl against Stanford (the first Rose Bowl being UM defeating Stanford). 

So everything about that game and what led to that moment sucked. This was funny when Urban had a 12-0 season but nothing to show for it, then proceeded to lose this game and also the Orange Bowl, right up until after the loss to Va Tech. 

It is no longer is funny nor has any relevance. The guy was hungry. 

So ... moving  on. HARBAUGH. 

Gofor2

July 9th, 2015 at 8:59 AM ^

It's because he just lost his 3rd game in 3 years and is now only 38-3 with a undisputed Nationql Chqmpionship Team he has to coach. Imagine the depression he must feel. Surely Hoke was happy to be Hoke, thanking God himself that he didn't have to continue the season and play in a Conference Championship Game. Open your eyes man. That's a happy dude with a happy team and even happier fan base. 38-3 !! Now the UDNC. Yep, pretty happy indeed. Seems UM fans have just forgot what happy and successful looks like.

turd ferguson

July 8th, 2015 at 4:16 PM ^

I think this is pretty close.  It should be called a "conditional offer."  All offers are conditional in some ways in the long run (e.g., on the kid's grades and whether there are any scholarships left when he commits).  In this case, though, it's conditional even in the moment of the offer, since it depends on what other player(s) decide to do first.

rainingmaize

July 8th, 2015 at 4:57 PM ^

It's basically saying the coaches think you are worthy of a Michigan offer, and that the player would be a good fit on the team, however they want to see where the top players go before you can commit. It's basically like applying for a job and getting a call saying that they offered the job to someone else, however you are the runner up/backup. You didn't get the job, but at least you know they thought you were a quality candidate.

ypsituckyboy

July 8th, 2015 at 3:32 PM ^

To make a kid feel good about you even if you don't intend on accepting his commitment unless he gets better or you need him as a backup plan. Remember, a kid often doesn't know his offer is uncommittable until he tries to commit.

Avon Barksdale

July 8th, 2015 at 3:39 PM ^

An offer only becomes uncommitable after others have committed in your place. I think all offers are committable (to a point) when they are first given out. So a perfect example is a guy like Derrick Green. He had an offer from Ohio State, but his offer was no longer a committable offer due to Ezekiel Elliott committing first.

Is that still a win over Ohio State in recruiting? Probably not. But an offer from a big time school is definitely a good thing regardless if it becomes uncommittable in the future.   

I have heard that none of Saban's QB offers are committable i.e. Jayru Campbell until after he sees them throw in person. So it's basically a way to get them to campus. "Hey, we're offering you, but it's dependent upon you coming down here and throwing in front of the staff."

No harm, no foul to that in my opinion.

Tuebor

July 8th, 2015 at 4:04 PM ^

Talk about a fall from grace.  That kid was the top QB prospect in Metro Detroit, if not Michigan as a whole, for the better part of 3 years.  Was committed to MSU (We bash our rivals but there are far worse places to go than MSU for football players).  Then it all started to unravel.  First the body slam. Then he beat up his girlfriend.   Now he is going to a JUCO in Kansas.  At this point I think he has a better shot at working on the line at Jefferson North than playing power 5 level football.

ssuarez

July 8th, 2015 at 3:51 PM ^

This is just baseless speculation based on the earlier thread about the huge number of decommitts from Stanford's class a while back. That said, here's a what if.

What if Harbaugh said to kids, here's an offer - you can commit if you want, but there is nothing firm on our end as we evaluate offers. We'll be in communication over the next few months, and will have a firm answer to you by October. If you want to keep looking around, sounds good - If you want to commit, maybe doing so will raise your recruiting profile a bit and get some other schools to look at you. Seems like committing is a win-win for both of us. Would that be sketchy if come October Michigan said it wasn't committable? I don't think that it would be.

Photogenic

July 8th, 2015 at 4:11 PM ^

It's like what I do with girls. Any time I'm out at the bar, I generally make it known to any attractive girl that I'm willing to have sex with her. Now if she gains 20 pounds and I see her at the bar a month later, I may not still be willing to bang her. An offer of sex at one point in time doesn't imply a sex offer in perpetuity.

Dix

July 8th, 2015 at 4:32 PM ^

I think you have this completely backwards.  It's more like making it known to the girls at the bar that you'll be willing to have sex with them if they get just a little bit more attractive or if you get a little bit more desperate/drunk. 

Fortunately for you, there are no arbitrary limits on the number of commits you can accept.