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UM/Oregon

Why is Oregon so much better than UM?  Besides them having the RB James.  Both made coaching changes, both have new starting QBs, I mean really?  Can they really out recruit us that bad?  The damn PSU game has me so fn pissed right now...damn

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October 30th, 2010 at 9:51 PM | James, plus a defense that (Score:1)
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James, plus a defense that isn't god-awful.

 

It really is that simple.

 

CJK5H

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October 30th, 2010 at 9:52 PM | Call me Mr. Vegas, but I'd go w/ Oregon in that one (Score:1)
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October 30th, 2010 at 9:53 PM | They have had their spread (Score:1)
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They have had their spread offense in place for years.. when they switched coaches they really didn't have to switch much.. and all along they had the same type of players they needed there.

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October 30th, 2010 at 9:55 PM | and theyre in the pac 10. UM (Score:1)
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and theyre in the pac 10. UM 30, Uconn 10...Uconn 16, WVU 13. just sayin

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October 30th, 2010 at 9:58 PM | What? Last time I checked the (Score:1)
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What? Last time I checked the Pac10 is pretty good.

Hide your kids, Hide your wife, And hide your husband.

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October 30th, 2010 at 9:56 PM | Exactly. People underestimate (Score:1)
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Exactly. People underestimate how important continuity is for a program.

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October 30th, 2010 at 9:57 PM | Yep just going to say that. (Score:1)
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Yep just going to say that. Oregon has been running the "Spread" or a form of it for years now (Joey ran a form of it).

Michigan went from a very conservative predictable pro style, to the spread read they is based on running the football.

Oregon has a D that can stop people. Michigan doesn't have a D that can stop people so if they fall behind they have to abandon the run and throw it and that isn't what the RR spread is ment to do.

Long story short....Oregon has a team, while Michigan has Denard.

Hide your kids, Hide your wife, And hide your husband.

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October 30th, 2010 at 10:13 PM | Michigan had Mike Martin (Score:1)
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Michigan had Mike Martin.  So, yeah, pretty much just Denard at this point.

Crunch. Zip. Live to fight another day.

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October 30th, 2010 at 10:30 PM | Perfect (Score:1)
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Zippy the last line of your comment so completely encapsulates the season I dont even know what to say...+1 to you sir

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October 30th, 2010 at 9:57 PM | Correct (Score:1)
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Chip Kelly was the offensive coordinator, then became head coach. Smooth transition. Nothing compared to us.

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October 30th, 2010 at 10:21 PM | The coaching transition was (Score:1)
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The coaching transition was completely different than UM.  Kelly was Oregon's OC and then became the head coach and also did not drastically change the coaching philosophy when he took over. 

You can sum up this sport in two words, 'You never know.'

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October 30th, 2010 at 10:08 PM | Coaching and talent (Score:1)
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We are deficient in both areas. 

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October 30th, 2010 at 10:13 PM | A big part of it is Carr's 07 (Score:1)
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A big part of it is Carr's 07 class

/s

Galileo was also chastised.

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October 30th, 2010 at 10:50 PM | A lot of those guys aren't (Score:1)
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A lot of those guys aren't even playing at the FCS level. Like 50% actually.  That is a whiff of what would be our experienced talent right now.

"because character wins in life and character wins on the football field....."  1-11-11

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October 30th, 2010 at 10:54 PM | Yeah, it doesn't seem fair to (Score:1)
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Yeah, it doesn't seem fair to judge players who've washed out of football entirely does it? Especially when so many of them had top tier offers.

Galileo was also chastised.

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October 30th, 2010 at 10:20 PM | Oregon =/= Michigan (Score:1)
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Oregon has run that offense since 2003/2004 from what I remember, possibly longer. I just remember Michigan going to "The Zoo" and getting beat there by a similar offense. If I'm not mistaken, I believe Chip Kelly was the OC when Belotti was there... I'm not sure how long.. I wanna say it was only from like 2006 or 2007 and when Belotti stepped down it made sense to just move Kelly up before he left ( and came to MICHIGAN instead of Rich Rod)

Oregon also doesn't run stupid defensive 'zones' like Michigan. Our Zones are JOKES. I have never seen a SLOPPIER defense. Michigan STACKS 8 in the box on every defensive play I actually focus on. I think Oregon didn't really have any attrition like we did going from a 4-3 to a "????" 5-2? 3-3-5? 3-4? Who knows. 

With all that said, I was not a fan of the Rich Rod hiring, but I changed my attitude and said GIVE this guy a chance, wanted to spontaneously combust after we lost to Toledo... regained my composure and figured, let [Stubborn] Rich have time to get his program going, and I believe he needs a FULL rotation of recruiting (4 classes)... but enough is enough. 3-9, 5-7, and possibly a 6-6* season for the recruiting power he has? I just think Michigan is going backwards. Carr's worst year was 7-6 (ending the reg. season 7-5) I believe. I just don't like this style of offense if we have to sacrifice a GOOD defense like we had.

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October 30th, 2010 at 10:37 PM | why are we playing with (Score:1)
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3 down lineman while psu runs up the middle on every other play.  I mean right up the middle.  They have ran about 5 different plays today.  HB dive, HB screen, PA rollout, and Ace Fly, thats it.

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October 30th, 2010 at 10:50 PM | Michigan should consider (Score:1)
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Michigan should consider using image boards to convey play calls. 

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