I'm sure both fanbases would take it but it's still a weird/unfortunate scenario.
finally people are complaining about us
No Way! Let's show them and throw at least one of the last games!!
then just count on pennst to beat msu
Correction: UM and msu both winning out sends msu to the Rose Bowl. Don't count out penn state in sparty's season closer.
to McGloin lighting up MSU's secondary.
Well, that depends on whether we will see the McFavre that lit up Michigan's secondary or the McFavre that threw two Mc-Sixes to the OSU secondary.
McGloin did very well in the first half against OSU. I think they said that he threw the first (and second) touchdown passes that Penn State has scored in Columbus during Joe Pa's time there. I believe they also said that, prior to McGloin scoring 2 TDs, a Joe Pa coached Penn State had never scored 2 TDs in Columbus.
I want to believe you on that stat. But I can't. I'm sure I'm wrong... PSU has NEVER thrown a TD pass in the Shoe? I don't buy it.
strange but true:
McGloin, who finished 15 of 30 for 159 yards with the two interceptions, hit Justin Brown on a 23-yard score and Moye on a 6-yarder. They were the first touchdown passes Penn State had thrown in Ohio Stadium since joining the Big Ten in 1993, and gave the Lions the most points they've scored there in that span.
Either you didn't watch the game or you watched it with the sound off because they talked about it a LOT.
McGloin = Moxie
on ATH (around the horn) TR would have taken away several points and muted you for not doing your homework and then saying something untrue. i would say PSU might have thrown a TD pass, however a JoePa coached PSU team had not! i am also fairly certain that while i was watching gameday that herby even predicted that McGloin would throw two. (Probably because he was trying to jump on his bandwagon after blasting him on gameday when he started against us)! Go Blue beat wiscy!
Edit: this was in response to bwgrudt...
If Jay Mariotti was on ATH, Tony would fuck his shit up for getting arrested for domestic violence.
Still, that nets out to zero, since he threw two TDs for each team.
Matt McGloin was just playing all-time QB.
the McFarve from the first half that gave JoePa his first and second passing TDs, ever, in Columbus.
I agree you can't count out PSU, but there's other scenarios that also send MSU to the Rose Bowl.
However, UM beating both Wisconsin and OSU would make it extremely likely that MSU gets there.
(not going to go through all the headache-inducing tie-break scenarios)
I like how you lower-cased msu and penn state. That is what I call good grammar.
I'm of the faction that is indifferent to Sparty's fortunes. If they get to the Rose bowl for the first time in a generation, wonderful. I want M to win every game. Every win helps us get our program back to its rightful place, and that is a place in which MSU don't matter.
Wow, you're spot on about the once in a generation thing. A generation is generally accepted to be about 22-25 years and michigan state last went to the Rose Bowl in Jan 1998 - almost 23 years ago. The last time before that was Jan 1966 - another 22 years.
I agree. I could care less what happens to State at this point. We had our chance to take care of business against them and we didn't. If we help them, so be it, but it helps UM more if we win our last 2 games. If UM finishes with a 9-3 record, I could care less where MSU is heading for their bowl. 9-3 means we keep RichRod and build off of a great season going into next year. It also will greatly help with closing out recruiting season and build towards the future.
I could care less what happens to State
You could care less? How much less could you care? I'm guessing a lot. Oh, you meant that you COULDN'T care less!!!
(Sorry, had to do it... What would that make me? The idiom nazi?)
I will care about our team and only our team! I refuse to be Sparty. More often than not, they care more about what we do versus what they do. If they had to cheer for us to have a better outcome for themselves, they still wouldn't do it. Typical Sparty.
I mean are you a Michigan fan or a Sparty hater?
A Michigan fan wants his favorite team (Michigan) to succeed.
A Sparty hater wants Sparty to fail.
Plus, does Sparty doing a face plant make Michigan's loss to MSU look better, or worse?
who cares about MSU? i want to win.
then we should lose the rest of our games
/Dantonio, if he were in our position, and MSU winning out sent us to the rosebowl. I suppose if it needs this much explaining, then it's no good.
Eff it... let them have it... it'll probably be their last one for a while. "Just win baby...HARD EDGE!"
assures the team of a nice sunny day in Florida on Jan 1st. Screw Sparty.
Are we assuming MSU will win if they are to go to the Rose Bowl? I'm not.
I'll take the two additional wins even if it means MSU goes to California. We could use all the positive outcomes we can possibly get.
Could definitely not care less. Of course I'm sure Sparty fans will still cheer against UofM both weeks.
If UM wins out, MSU loses out, Iowa Beats Ohio State but then loses to Minnesota and Wisconsin loses to Northwestern, Michigan would tie for the conference title and would probably have the highest BCS average and goto the Rose Bowl.
when i find out my student loans have been paid in full by a mystery benefactor, Denard drops a bakers dozen x1000 all-purpose on Wisconsin and OSU each, i am hired to the role of assistant athletic director and my wife lets me win an argument... cuz then i would go to the Rose Bowl too
I think that's all plausible... except of course for the winning an argument with the wife, we all know that will never happen for any of us.
They still won't cheer for us. They are that stupid.
Dantonio will be rooting for the Badgers and Buckeyes so his team can go to a lower bowl.
He certainly isn't interested in a rose bowl: he is interested in our misery.
The best thing we can do is send him to a rose bowl, and let him get smoked by TCU/Boise.
...but every Sparty fan I know will root against UM in every circumstance, regardless of how it affects MSU.
Which begs the existential question: if Sparty fans are more concerned about the Wolverines' fortunes than MSU's, does that make them Michigan fans?
Is apathy the opposite of love, and hate the same emotion?
When people say that the blog culture is loaded with low-brow nit wits, I always send them to Mgo to show them all is not lost.
I seriously can't wait to use that one on the State fans that inhabit every corner of my world.
considering he explicitly noted in his first year he wouldn't root for UM to beat OSU even though it had Rose Bowl implications for MSU. it was ass backwards and absurd.
His second year, not his first. Not that it really matters.
I guess I never heard him say that, but I believe it.
In the meantime, that sounds like a perfectly reasonable thought from East Lansing's equivalent of Jesus.
Win em both. Enjoy the Rose Bowl, Sparty.
I wouldn't put it beyond Sparty to self destruct.
You know when you panic. when you are more successful than you ought to be.