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UM-MSU Snowflakes Thread

It is probably not too early to start this up.  I love the team and the success they have had this year so far, but in order to go far in the tournament they've got to step it up.

The lack of physicality on this team is a noticeable issue - they have gotten eaten up inside by teams with a halfway decent big man.

Trey Burke is the only one who can create offense for others.  No other players can penetrate to the hole with regularity.  You slow Burke down and Michigan suffers. 

You're not going to get very far on jump shots alone.  Take it to the hole.

EDIT: The defense is average at best.  Get in front of someone and cut off drives to the hoop...PLEASE.

Enough said.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:34 PM | Whoa, way too early. (Score:-1 Overrated)
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Whoa, way too early.  Probably won't win, but this has got to be a record.

Touchdown Michigan!

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:35 PM | Sometimes (Score:5 Normal)
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You just know. Take your ass kicking and move on.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:37 PM | Then continue to watch the (Score:-1 Overrated)
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Then continue to watch the game.

Touchdown Michigan!

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:44 PM | I think when you're down 30 last in the 2nd half (Score:5 Normal)
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It's not too early.

And it saves 20 of these popping up in the first five minutes after.

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February 13th, 2013 at 6:10 AM | These threads shouldn't start (Score:1)
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These threads shouldn't start while a game is in progress. There's a lot to be said for not starting them until the next day.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:34 PM | Can't say I blame Craig James (Score:5 Normal)
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Can't say I blame Craig James for killing five hookers if he ever had to watch a game like that one.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:21 AM | Alledgedly. (Score:1 Normal)
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Alledgedly.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:34 PM | TV (Score:1)
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has been off for over 45 minutes... I guess this means no comeback. We just weren't ON tonight.

2013 will be the year.

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February 13th, 2013 at 8:11 AM | It got so bad... (Score:3 Normal)
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that I watched Chronicles of Riddick instead of that mess of a game.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:34 PM | NCAA tourney games are (Score:5 Normal)
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NCAA tourney games are neutral sites

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:36 PM | GRIII (Score:5 Normal)
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has played like this at home too... We really need to do work if we want to be elite.

2013 will be the year.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:29 AM | I agree that he's been way (Score:1)
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I agree that he's been way off recently but when has he not played well at home?

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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February 13th, 2013 at 11:05 AM | OSU (Score:2)
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OSU

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:40 PM | Dude (Score:5 Normal)
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Ride that one as long as you want. We are getting worked right now fair and square.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:34 PM | Belien has not done his job (Score:4 Normal)
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Belien has not done his job in the past few games.  Piss-poor substitutions and inability to coach a lick of defense.

"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:37 PM | Coach B is not the one (Score:4 Normal)
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Coach B is not the one playing soft out there! These kids just don't have the guts to play these big games right now. We NEVER looked comfortable this game.

BTN broadcast guy talking about Nik Stauskas~" He is the best import since Molson"

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:01 AM | Umm.. (Score:4 Normal)
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Who's job is it to have the team ready to play?  Whose job is it to have contingencies in case the team has difficulties?  These losses are on B. 

There is no more complete school anywhere.

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February 13th, 2013 at 6:51 AM | five freshman...sometimes it (Score:1)
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five freshman...sometimes it takes time for toughness to be earned...you know, through games like this.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:42 PM | One word (Score:1)
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Elerbe

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:49 PM | Whoa! (Score:5 Normal)
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Lets not forget that coach b has led us to a 21-3 record coming into this game. Fwiw..I don't know if anybody would beat state tonight as well as they've played. Our 4 losses have been on the road in the big ten..at arguably the 4 toughest places to win in the conference. Lets not get into freak out mode until we lose to all of these teams at home.

Remember..it was only 6..six..SIX!..days ago when we beat osu in ot and everyone talked about how well coached and complete this team was. To my knowledge we haven't lost anything from that team.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:35 PM | - (Score:5 Normal)
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A complete and thurough ass-kicking maybe exactly what this team needs. Jesus this is embarassing. 

"I tried to but a pencil in the light socket but it was too wide and didn't fit so I used a paperclip."-Terrelle Pryor, Future Rhodes Scholar

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February 13th, 2013 at 9:02 AM | Agree (Score:2)
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I had the sane thought. Our team looked unbeatable for much of the season, but since achieving the #1 ranking, we have been a mess. I see it as a combination of several of the following potential factors:



1. Lack of confidence - it seems like since we lost some of these big games, the team has lost its mojo - they don't seem to have the same swagger. This needs to be fixed asap, as teams that lack confidence don't tend to go far.



2. Youth - we are playing many true freshmen - several are starting or playing critical minutes. these kids have experienced nothing but success so far, so the las of confidence may be even greater for them.



3. Fatigue - this stretch of schedule has been brutal and physical. Could be that some of our guys are fatigued. Look at GRIII, who has dropped off the most - he has been battling guys larger and stonger since Morgan went down, and it looks o be taking its toll.



4. Jordan Morgan - we are really missing him and his inside presence. McGary is bigger and stronger with a higher ceiling, but Morgan is a critical piece.



5. Defense - this one is obvious. We did well for much of the season relying on our shooters, but there are times when you need to get a big stop, especially against better teams. Until we improve this area of our game, I am not confident going into the tourney.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:35 PM | I'd like to at least see (Score:4 Normal)
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I'd like to at least see GRIII find himself during this game.

Touchdown Michigan!

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:35 PM | Snowflakes? Gonna be a damn (Score:5 Normal)
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Snowflakes? Gonna be a damn blizzard after tonight's game

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:36 PM | I'm getting tired of watching (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm getting tired of watching teams with big men casually rebound and score, rebound and score, rebound and score, rebound and score, rebound and score, rebound and score while 3 guys not named jordan morgan hover around with vacant expressions on their faces

We are the most upset-able top 5 team in the country

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:44 PM | To be fair, we're no longer a (Score:5 Normal)
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To be fair, we're no longer a top 5 team.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:36 PM | Football is getting commits (Score:3 Normal)
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Football is getting commits again. Oh, and did everyone hear, Kate Upton is on the swimsuit cover of SI

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:46 PM |  My opinion of the game is (Score:5 Insightful)
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My opinion of the game is that it’s very fair to start questioning what Belein is doing to get these guys ready.  The team is getting worse every week. Nobody has improved other than McGary, and he was awful tonight.  The offense has become completely one-dimensional, the defensive effort is just embarrassing at times, and there is absolutely no mental toughness on the road against decent teams, especially from the freshman.  How many top 30 recruits consistently fail to show up for games and throw the ball right at the other team multiple times?  Novak and Douglass were guys nobody wanted, and they competed well against State. This team is talented, but they look SOFT and stupid in big moments, which is a bad combo.  In addition, Belein’s substitutions have been very questionable.   Spike, Levert, and McGary on the floor at the same time is a disaster, and I’m not sure how the coaches don’t see that.  This is not a top five team right now.  It’s barely a top 15 team right now.  

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:50 PM | That about sums it up.  Our (Score:1)
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That about sums it up.  Our big men do not have much offensive ability, as well.  I love Mitch, but he is almost certain to drop a pass when pressured underneath.  At least he flies around.  I can't think of another player showing reckless passion out there.  I also agree that the substitutions tonight have been awful.  Do we have an offense other than passing around the horn and taking a three?

 

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:09 AM | Sorry to keep ranting, but (Score:4 Normal)
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Sorry to keep ranting, but there is just no excuse for an experienced scorer going 1-11.  Regarding the big men, between Horford, McGary, and Morgan, we have 5 points, 5 fouls, and 7 turnovers.  That is just unbelievably awful.

Even worse, Hardaway, McGary, and Robinson combined for 8 points on 4-20 shooting.  You're not going to come anywhere near a good team when 3 starters do that. 

THEY WERE OUTSCORED BY SPIKE ALBRECHT, COREY PERSON, AND ESO AKUNNE.  

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:53 PM | Nope.   (Score:5 Normal)
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Nope.  

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February 13th, 2013 at 1:09 PM | Avatar Thanks (Score:1)
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Dude, thank you for the avatar.  Much needed after last night's massacre.

 

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:00 AM | The offense has become (Score:4 Normal)
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The offense has become completely one-dimensional

That was the most alarming thing you said... Because its so true. Pick roll. Pick in roll. Watch the pick and roll. Michigan has to get back to their base sets. Play better team basketball. Michigan has a ton of soul searching to do.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:03 AM | You know it's a bad night (Score:5 Normal)
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When TheGhostofYost is having one of his post loss "meltdowns"....and everyone agrees because he's 100% right, and it's not really a meltdown at all.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:06 AM | Agree. (Score:2 Normal)
umeuph97
Joined: 08/30/2009
MGoPoints: 41

CJ Lee leaves, team lacks leadship and nose dives.  Zack Novak/Stu Douglas leave...  This slow start on the road thing is no longer a fluke. 

There is no more complete school anywhere.

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February 13th, 2013 at 6:56 AM | I disagree with your (Score:1)
coldnjl
Joined: 12/31/2009
MGoPoints: 2430

I disagree with your assessment. I think that at this point in the season, the big minutes being played by our freshman, have officially caught up with us. GR3 and Stauskus look anemic out there. The B1G is a tough schedule, and with a team how feeds heavy minutes to 3 freshman, wear will show earlier than most. Further, mental toughness is forged through battle, and this team just needs to continue to forge that mindset. Burke and Morgan has it...Timmy had a bad game, but this is a one off for him. Lets enjoy a team that has more than outplayed expectations and let them weather the B1G season, and take the lessons learned on the way and apply them in the B1G and NCAA tournament. That is the one upside to having alot of freshman, that they have a larger capacity to improve over a season than any other team, and their base is pretty fucking good

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:36 PM | SPORTS. (Score:5 Normal)
BlueBarron
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SPORTS.

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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Barron-Photography/13379

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:37 PM | We have been outplayed, (Score:5 Normal)
mGrowOld
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We have been outplayed, outshot, outhustled, outcoached and outeverything in this fucking game.

 

 

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:37 PM | Robinson has got to be hurt. (Score:1)
yoopergoblue
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Robinson has got to be hurt.  There is now way he shouldn't have thrown that down.

"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:38 PM | Refs sucked tonight and the (Score:3 Normal)
ThadMattasagoblin
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Refs sucked tonight and the team has no effort or energy.  Novak has to be furious.

903 wins most in college football

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:53 PM | It's not why we lost, but (Score:0 Normal)
SC Wolverine
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It's not why we lost, but they might as well have drafted random Sparty fans and put them in striped uniforms tonight.  The NCAA tournament is going to be a breath of fresh air just getting away from Big Ten refs.

 

"Football is happening at Michigan... we have that savoir faire."  Dhani Jones

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:17 AM | Without these refs, we could have kept it to a double-digit loss (Score:2 Normal)
Muttley
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February 13th, 2013 at 12:20 AM | Well you'd have to try pretty (Score:5 Normal)
AmaizeingBlue
Joined: 09/01/2010
MGoPoints: 1345

Well you'd have to try pretty hard to lose by triple digits, refs or no refs.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:38 AM | There were a couple calls (Score:3 Normal)
MilkSteak
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There were a couple calls that were bs but for the most part I thought they were alright. We were god awful.

"I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy."

 

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:55 PM | You're calling out the refs? (Score:5 Normal)
MontuckyYooper
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You're calling out the refs?  Seriously?

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:38 PM | Im glad its only the second (Score:2 Normal)
redwhiteandmaize
Joined: 02/04/2012
MGoPoints: 1049

Im glad its only the second week in February.

"Are you an official here?Because you've officially given me a boner."

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:38 PM | Once again (Score:5 Normal)
Hokemaniac24
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Joined: 09/02/2012
MGoPoints: 445

nobody came to play

2013 will be the year.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:38 PM | This team hasn't been ready (Score:5 Normal)
NFG
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This team hasn't been ready for a game in 3 weeks. We don't have an offense and our defense is pathetic.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:39 PM | Kittens? (Score:1)
ckersh74
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Kittens?

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:22 AM | What's the opposite of (Score:1)
kevin holt
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What's the opposite of muppets?

Mike Martin told me he loves me. My life is quite possibly complete.

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