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February 13th, 2013 at 12:21 AM | Now that's just mean.  I (Score:4 Normal)
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Now that's just mean. 

I thought we agreed to never talk about that game again on this blog.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:07 AM | Yeah, when Izzo had them run it up to 50 (Score:1)
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We at least sucked then.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:50 PM | Maybe (Score:2 Normal)
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This is what the team needs. Before this stretch, we were flying too high and got too cocky. This stretch may just bring the team down to earth, and show them that they need to win games with effort as well.

2013 will be the year.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:50 PM | Penis! What a crappy end to (Score:1 Flamebait)
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Penis! What a crappy end to the day

Coach Hoke once told me that a moral victory is still a (expletive deleted) loss.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:52 PM | You say Penis like it's a bad (Score:2 Informative)
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You say Penis like it's a bad thing.

There are no corners in space.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:50 PM | The Wisconsin (Score:3 Normal)
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Game KILLED this team. I think they let Wisconsin beat them twice.

What a brutal stretch though - four ranked teams in a row, three of them on the road.

Have to question where the leadership is going to come from now...?

I thought Morgan was supposed to be our defensive rock? How many times did he get outhustled?

First basketball or football game I turned off early in a couple years...just seems like one of those nights. State couldn't miss - we couldn't hit anything (even layups).

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:54 AM | Morgan was gutting it out on (Score:3 Underrated)
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Morgan was gutting it out on one leg and if you watched he defended Nix beautifully when he was in there.  He is a problem only in the sense that we miss having him in the game at 100%

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:51 PM | Thanks for jinxing MSU's win tonight with a premature thread (Score:4 Normal)
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We totally are coming back from 30 down with a few minutes to play now.

Well played.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:14 AM | Fuck (Score:5 Normal)
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I reversed jinxed it.

Sorry everyone. My bad.

Piss poor effort from me as well as the basketball team tonight.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:51 PM | Just a thought (Score:4 Normal)
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Is it possible that this team is just totally and utterly exhausted?  Think about this stretch they have played since last saturday.  @Indiana, OSU, @wisco, @msu.  Plus going to overtime in two of them.  They are off until Sunday, I want to see this team get rested, get pissed and come back strong to finish off this season.

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February 13th, 2013 at 8:48 AM | Many if us probably have wet (Score:1)
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Many if us probably have wet dreams about this team playing pissed off so let's hope that happens. But we've seen no indication that that us in their genetic makeup. They are more worried about trying to remember what option 13(b)(4)(D) is off the high pick and roll than they are about kicking someone's ass.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:51 PM | This is why you don't make an (Score:5 Normal)
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This is why you don't make an "Izzo's team is garbage" thread in November.

Hopefully this game wakes this team up. They aren't doing anything in March looking like they did tonight.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:55 PM | You can only say "this was a (Score:5 Normal)
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You can only say "this was a wake-up call" or "the freshmen grew up tonight" so many times before accepting that this team just isn't as good as we all hoped. 

"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:12 AM | I'm not saying this was a (Score:4 Normal)
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I'm not saying this was a wake-up call. I'm saying I HOPE it is. 

This team is way too talented to get blown out like they did tonight.

If they get it together, I still think this team is capable of doing big things. However, if this is what we look like in March, we ain't doin' shit.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:51 PM | Beilein (Score:5 Normal)
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I look at this team the last 3 weeks and see a decent Beilein WV team.  I'm not sure what happened over the last month, but I don't like it.  Our guys are scared out there.  They don't rebound, they don't defend, they don't go to the basket.  Its unfortunate that we haven't really improved or grown during b10 play.  If anything we've regressed.  

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:53 PM | lol ap#1 (Score:2 Normal)
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lol ap#1

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:53 PM | Running the table the rest of (Score:2 Normal)
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Running the table the rest of the way and parlaying it into a B1G tourney championship and a strong NCAA tourney showing will most certainly make tonight and Saturday forgettable. 

Just don't feel M has what it takes. The next 3 vs. PSU, vs. ILL, @ PSU will be key to kickstarting it.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:11 AM | Disagree. Beating up on (Score:1)
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Disagree. Beating up on average to below average teams does nothing.  They did that for the majority of the first 60% of the schedule.  They have beaten no one (Minn) on the road.  They have been exposed from the OSU game forward on how to be beaten.  Pressure Burke, take away options, punch GR3 in the mouth (he disappears) and out work Michigan.  

Defense always travels. Offense will go into a funk.  OSU with 1.5 freaking offensive options almost beat UM on the road.  WIscy always is tough to beat with almost no offensive talent.  Michigan is a fun offensive team against inferior talent, but does not show the defensive effort or drive to play with big boys. Beating PSU by 15 wont change that.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:53 PM | what a... (Score:4 Normal)
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fucking joke this game was... yet another game that JB does not have this team prepared for...

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:53 PM | Everything is still terrible. (Score:3 Normal)
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Everything is still terrible. No reason to alter my hatred of it yet.

Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:55 PM | Worst loss of the Beilein era. (Score:5 Normal)
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Probably have lost worse, but those teams weren't good. No reason for this team to get run out of town in the biggest game of their season to date.

Backs are against the wall now and have to win out just to share. But this doesn't look like a team that's even going to be able to protect home court right now. More likely we're just trying to get our shit together because all this ugly gets erased with a nice run in March. But it's sad to be playing for March before mid-February with this team.

We may not be #1, but we're not playing to the level of our talent either. We can keep using youth as an excuse, because guess what- this is college basketball today. You're almost never going to have a talented and experienced team. You have to find a way to win with freshmen, and sophomores.

And everyone dissing Izzo and MSU back a month ago, uhm, yeah....

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February 13th, 2013 at 8:39 AM | Anyone who counts MSU out (Score:2 Normal)
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In January is an absolute idiot

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:55 PM | I'd watch this tape every day (Score:1)
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I'd watch this tape every day if I was Trey Burke. See those "things" laughing at us. See all those, terrible things.

All in for some manball.

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February 13th, 2013 at 2:17 AM | Effort (Score:2 Normal)
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How do you come out so flat in the three biggest road games of the year @ OSU, Indiana and MSU games with absolutely no energy and effort.  There are two big differences from this year to last, 1. Novak and company had heart and effort but almost no elite talent - 2.  This team has elite offensive talent but no heart and effort which is really what defense, rebounding and hustle create.

I would almost rather watch last years team at this point as at least you would count on the kids hustling after almost everything 100% of the time.  At this point, it seems like everyone wants to only hustle to get down to the 3 point line to try to get a long-range shot, way too man y offensive boards due to simply not blocking out and putting in effort, and what appears to be a distinct lack of effort and aggresive play around the basket.  

There is no killer instinct that has at least been displayed at this point, and it would be nice to see someone finally drive effort around an almost insane level of effort at hustle plays and defense.

 

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:55 PM | Rest (Score:1)
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The team will be in Ann Arbor for the next 15 days or so. They need to get some rest now and watch highlights of this game everyday till they meet these guys again.

They ran out of gas last year, hopefully they can get back some momentum over this break.

They did fail in their most important stretch of the season to date though. They can turn things back around.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:55 PM | Scared. This team is playing (Score:5 Normal)
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Scared.

This team is playing scared.  Why I have no idea but you can see it in their eyes, their body language and their overall play.

They are scared.

 

 

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:13 AM | They are not scared, they are (Score:2)
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They are not scared, they are small.  And unlike scared, that can't be fixed easily.

 

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:41 AM | Scared. Watch the first ten (Score:2)
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Scared. Watch the first ten minutes of all the important Big Ten games we've played this year.

"I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy."

 

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:56 PM | Team-building strategy (Score:3 Normal)
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Can a team built around players out of their ideal size-based position really contend on the big stage? It seems clear that GR3 is not ready to play the Novak role (and I don't think many people ever will be--Novak was a special guy)



I think that the way this team is built sets it up for failure on the defensive end. We have no athletic bigs to cover our mediocre perimeter defenders. Ideally, McGary/Morgan would be a 4, and we would have a stronger 5 presence.



I see that I'm rambling. I dunno. I just think this team is doomed to be soft. I know I know they're allllll freshmen, but I just don't see where we can grow. To me it's like a 6 foot linebacker who could be really good but he's just too small

I do it for my love of the Streets

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:14 AM | Yeah, the small, athletic, shooting PF doesn't work (Score:1)
M-Wolverine
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If he's getting 4 points a game solely on put-backs.

Guards rule the tournament, but eventually you need some down low presence.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:56 PM | Is old man Paine still in? (Score:1)
allintime23
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Joined: 09/21/2009
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Is old man Paine still in?

All in for some manball.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:57 PM | Granny Harris put its fake (Score:1)
allintime23
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Granny Harris put its fake teeth back in.

All in for some manball.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:58 PM | Okay. I'm going to bed (Score:1)
allintime23
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Okay. I'm going to bed

All in for some manball.

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February 12th, 2013 at 11:58 PM | THJ (Score:1)
Center Ice
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He's like the Alfonso Soriano of basketball. When he's hot you can't guard him. When he's cold the basket could be 10 feet wide and he still wouldn't make it. 

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:00 AM | Game's not over, we can do (Score:2 Normal)
unWavering
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Game's not over, we can do this!

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:00 AM | All I really saw tonight was (Score:2 Normal)
BlockM
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All I really saw tonight was true freshmen playing like true freshmen. Couldn't buy a basket under the hoop, lots of thoughtless turnovers. They got flustered on the big stage because they're young and they're not ready. Hopefully this gets them ready.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:08 AM | I thought getting manhandled (Score:5 Normal)
Magnum P.I.
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I thought getting manhandled in Columbus got the freshmen ready? Or was it getting blown off the court the first half against Indiana that taught them what it's like to play on the big stage? 

It might just be that we're not a top-10 team.

"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:52 AM | I don't know what to tell (Score:1 Redundant)
BlockM
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I don't know what to tell you, but growing up takes time. I think the tough games are showing us that we probably aren't a top-10 team. When these guys are hitting on all cylinders, they're really tough to beat. When they're off, they can be beat by good teams. This is much better than previous years when if we were off, we could be beat by anyone.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:00 AM | Beyound stupid to play the (Score:1)
DKohn81
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Beyound stupid to play the back-ups for such extensive minutes. Even if your in foul trouble you have to go with your main guys before it gets out of hand. Completely outcoached tonight.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:01 AM | Soft (Score:4 Normal)
Kilgore Trout
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Joined: 02/20/2009
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Got pushed around and couldn't do anything about it. Very early 2000s like.

 

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:01 AM | pussies (Score:-1 Flamebait)
chuckdogg2
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Michigan looked like the softest team in the country.  What a joke.   Well at least we know that GRIII and Hardaway wont be entering the draft. I doubt they could get minutes in the WNBA at this point. 

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:14 AM | Agreed (Score:1 Flamebait)
NFG
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Agreed

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:36 AM | Don't be an asshole (Score:2)
OysterMonkey
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I get that you're pissed, but this kind of shit makes you look like an idiot.

This has nothing to do with Michigan football.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:02 AM | Burn the tape and move on. (Score:1 Redundant)
dcmaizeandblue
Joined: 04/01/2010
MGoPoints: 672

Burn the tape and move on. Nothing to take from this one. They came to play and we didn't.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:07 AM | We don't have the bodies to (Score:3 Normal)
M-Dog
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We don't have the bodies to match up.  It's not just a matter of not giving effort.

M'Dog

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:11 AM | I don't buy that. They came (Score:1 Normal)
dcmaizeandblue
Joined: 04/01/2010
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I don't buy that. They came out making everything and we didn't respond. If nix shoots 70% in Ann Arbor ill freely admit I'm wrong.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:02 AM | My silver lining (Score:5 Normal)
Dutch Ferbert
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I will be happy if this team only makes the sweet 16 now.

They should fall out of the top 10 after this game. They have lost 3 out of 4...and have just been humiliated on the road.

 

"[The University of Michigan] was, in short, the testing ground for all my prejudices, my beliefs and my ignorance, and it helped to lay out the boundaries of my life."--Arthur Miller

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:04 AM | That Izzo is such a great (Score:0 Flamebait)
allintime23
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That Izzo is such a great human being. I love him so much.

All in for some manball.

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:06 AM | I don't watch much NBA, but (Score:1 Normal)
KBLOW
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I don't watch much NBA, but after these last few games against high level competition how in the world in Burke considered such a high draft pick?  His D is average, his outside shot is iffy and agianst tall, quick defenders he gets shut down.  

 

 

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February 13th, 2013 at 12:08 AM | Go back and look at his stats (Score:5 Normal)
goblue_17
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Go back and look at his stats and tell me he got shut down. He's the only one that shows up to play.

 

 

 

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