UM leads Big Ten in just released QS 2014 World University Rankings

Submitted by snackyx on

UM is ranked #23 in the world in the 2014 rankings.

Other Big Ten schools:

#34 Northwestern

#41 Wisconsin

#102 Purdue

#109 the Ohio State University

#112 Penn State

#119 Minnesota

#122 Maryland

and....drum roll, please....

at #195, cracking the TOP 200! the Spartans of Michigan State University.

The next time your Spartan friends start that "both UM and MSMoo are great universities",  point them to this link:

 http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-ran…

 

 

 

 

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Maximinus Thrax

September 16th, 2014 at 10:54 AM ^

Obligatory, annoying, pedantic "MSMoo"....not here buddy.  "You must not come here often".  "Don't bring us down to the level of RCMB of MLive with that stuff".  

 

Just kidding.  But watch out...

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Princetonwolverine

September 16th, 2014 at 11:08 AM ^

We'd be higher ranked if we ran offensive plays faster.

#23 in the world but #29 in the US (US News and World Report) ???????

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gwkrlghl

September 16th, 2014 at 11:54 AM ^

Michigan is consistently rated higher in the world than it is in the US. Different rankings valuing different things.

FWIW, it sounds homerish, but the QS and London Times rankings seem to be held in higher regard than the USN&WR national ones i.e. we're probably closer to 30th in the world than we are to 30th in the US

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Sopwith

September 16th, 2014 at 6:18 PM ^

but holy hell, have you ever been to Champ-Urb?  Went for a game once.  How does anybody not become a hard-core alcoholic at that school?  The campus is just out in the middle of miles and miles of open flat farmland-- about as literally in the middle of nowhere as you can get without being in a desert.  They should move the whole thing to Chicago and join the existing UIC as flagship of the system.

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Wisconsin Wolverine

September 16th, 2014 at 11:35 AM ^

It's true - MSU is a fine academic institution.  Stratifying the top 200 can separate "super elite" from "still pretty great", but how meaningful is the difference?  It's hard to say ... I think you'd have great career opportunities graduating from MSU, and great career opportunities graduating from UM.  At that point, variance in success would most likely be explained in larger part by the individual than the institution.  In any case, we shouldn't disparage MSU as being "not good" because that's patently false.  If you want to disparage them for being "not as good as us", then that's fine I guess, but still pretty petty.

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ak47

September 16th, 2014 at 12:28 PM ^

I'm not saying MSU is a bad school but being top 200 in the world isn't an indicator of it.  There are maybe 30 countries in the world that really have invested in higher education and in many of those countries it is really only 1 or 2 schools.  The education recieved at a community college in the US is probably equivalent to anything outside of the top schools for a majority of countries in the world.

The reality of it is that there probably isn't a difference between an msu or an arizona state, or a texas tech.  They are all going to give you a good enough education to be successful but there is a level of schools that is seen as above that level of good enough and there are opportunities associated with being in that level that someone from msu would most likely not have and that is why people pick michigan over msu, or come out of state to michigan.  In reality its a pretty stupid difference but it makes all the difference in the world in terms of actual opportunity even if it shouldn't.

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bringthewood

September 16th, 2014 at 1:07 PM ^

If you look at the numbers GVSU is nipping at their heels.  Is GVSU great then?  MSU is a good school but far from great.

Those two schools are much closer than you realize

 

SAT's - push

                    Reading                   Math                Writing

                      25% 75%                 25% 75%          25% 75%

Grand Valley   480 615                 510 620            460 590

Michigan State 430 580                 540 680            460 580

(this just reinforces "can't read, can't write")

ACT's - MSU has the edge

                     Composite               English                Math

                     25% 75%                  25% 75%           25% 75%

Grand Valley  21 26                       21 27                  20 26

Michigan St    23 28                       22 29                  23 28

GPA - Tossup

GVSU - High School GPA (mid 50%): 3.3 - 3.8

MSU - High school GPA: 3.4-3.9

Admission rate MSU - 71% GVSU - 82%

At my kid's high school MSU gives verbal admission decisions on the spot with no application.

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ak47

September 16th, 2014 at 11:34 PM ^

You say that like academic jobs are offered based off teaching skills.  I had teachers in high school that were better teachers of the material than professors at Michigan.  Most people in academia regardless of whether they are at GVSU or Harvard have a good enough knowlege of the material to teach undergrads, it doesn't take a noble prize to teach econ 101.  It is the standards they hold their students to that makes the difference.

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Thrillhouse

September 16th, 2014 at 11:18 AM ^

In terms of the US public schools, how are some of the rankings so different from US News? UVa at 141? Also, what makes Michigan higher than UCLA and Cal on this list, but lower on the USNWR rankings?

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chatster

September 16th, 2014 at 11:48 AM ^

Michigan was ranked 22 in the 2013 QS World University Rankings. The National University of Singapore (ranked 22 in 2014) probably has a more experienced offensive line, and they might've been developing a better solar car and showing better quarterback pressure and press coverage on defense. LINK to 2014 QS World University Rankings

It's way too early for the Fire Schlissel posts to begin.  But he could be on the University President Hot Seat if there's any more slippage in 2015.

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gwkrlghl

September 16th, 2014 at 12:02 PM ^

You can also point to this when Domers say they can't recruit top football players because of their academics

University of Notre Dame #237

 

and if we dream about the B1G really going for footprint, McGill and UT would be sweet adds from a location and academics standpoint. Athletics probably not so much

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ChuckieWoodson

September 16th, 2014 at 12:21 PM ^

rankings come out as a proud alum this is my reaction as I see our ranking over MSU and all others. (edit: and yes, I'm usually sitting by a stream holding some mid 19th century contraption...presumably for chopping wood or gutting fish)

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