UM Hockey Twitter war...mgoblog vs childrenof yost

yet, you excuse Dear Leader's petulant whining when he gave up halfway through the season. 

Because saying he doesn't want to write about a team == losing hope and being a whiny person. 

And my gawd, he disagreed with someone else on twitter!  Hide the children and close the hatches, the world is about to end!

I don't agree with Brian on everything - I think he holds a more pessimistic view on the teams during a season than I would - but the fact that anyone is arguing an 18-19-3 team (that was 10-18-2 before a late-season hot streak) is somehow redemptive because they lost in the finals of a tournament completely ignores the fact they had no business even getting that far.

Subscribe to Twitter but only follow Jose Canseco, the philsopher king.

Step 1: Create Twitter account.

Step 2: Call someone a bad name.

Step 3: Wait...

I'm sorry, but what's there to be positive about?  This is the worst Michigan hockey team since I was a toddler. Sure they made a decent attempt at salvaging the season, but when, by all accounts, you underachieved and did not bring effort for a significant portion of the season, I would say you're not exactly begging for positive reviews.

This is his original response to Nesbitt's rather tame inquiries. I'm sure it was necessary in Brian's eyes.

@stephenjnesbitt do me a favor and don't predict what I'd say based on alternate histories.

— mgoblog (@mgoblog) March 25, 2013

Or you could be like bdsisme and call college kids on the team "diseases"! Model of a great fan right there!

Not like they won any games in early February or anything! All was at the last minute. Yep....

As some who totally fights with his spouse, I agree.  And this year's hockey season was pretty pathetic.  Why is it that Michigan fans are allowed to be jubilant when our teams do well, but we aren't true fans if we're upset when they don't?  

Wanna know why I'm not pissed about the season?  I honestly stopped watching it less than halfway through.  So maybe I'm a fair-weather M hockey fan.  

To keep the analogy alive, Brian is at least still fighting with his spouse.  I've stopped fighting because I stopped caring, which is far worse.

I understand CoY's stance. They're the student section. They support the team blindly, as they should.  As a former serious Maize Rage member, I do the same for basketball.

But it doesn't mean the season wasn't a failure. It was.

Just like I can admit the 2010 basketball season was a failure while still supporting the players, CoY should be able to just support the players and accept that there will be (rightfully) criticism of the season.

I don't agree with the CoY post.  Sure, they played very well in their last 10 games, but a season is more than your last 10 games.  This is like me saying that how awesome it was that we scored 28 points in the fourth quarter to lose by only 2, and how awesome is that because 28 points in one quarter is great!  

Finishing the season 8-1-1 would be great if they were doing well before that.  Then, we'd be bummed that they didn't win the CCHA but we'd be gearing up for a high seed in the tourney.  Instead, the hockey season ended before the basketball season.  

I'm certainly not one of those fans who tear down players and attack them as if they're 30 year old professionals making millions of dollars, but I'm not opposed to being let down and complaining about it when your team sucks. 

A big reason why M sports is so great is the passion of the fanbase.  That passion can cut both ways, as it should.

We all would love it if you (a huge bigot, as has been noted) would stop visiting this blog and keep to those other blogs, then.

[Edit: This was directed to Wolverine Devotee (so no one else gets undeserved backlash). This comment reply thread has gotten so long, jeesh.]

"COY should realize Brian's job isn't to be a fan, but provide an opinion and analysis."

I think they were upset about the lack of "opinion and analysis" since the team got off to a bad start. They have a point. This site did seem to lack hockey this season...

Please don't compare the two groups. COY chose not to be a student group because they didn't want to deal with the oversight from the University that comes with that.  I was hanging out with the people with the Maize Rage twitter password when I saw this and the immediate reaction was "getting into a fight with the largest Michigan sports blog is really stupd." I guarantee that if the equivalent happened to basketball, the current leadership of the Maize Rage would have handled it differently.

I believe that Brian once threw a water bottle at an opposing jackass fan. 

"Going through what we did for five years … it's hard to put into words truly what it means and truly what we've been through," Molk said Monday night at the Laurel Manor. "Because frankly, I don't think there's many people in this room or in this country that understand. Unless you've been a fifth-year senior here, you don't know. You didn't live it you didn't feel it, you didn't see the pain, you didn't hear the anguish, you didn't hear the hate."

Take that, guy I threw an empty water bottle at after the Toledo game. You probably think Demanding Excellence is what got Michigan back on track. I hate you so much.  

http://mgoblog.com/content/unverified-voracity-clarifies-lemon-bet 

Looks like it was a jackass Michigan fan after the Toledo loss.

and that is the heart of the current argument and why I called out brian on twitter last night and started the great mgohockey civil war (my tweet to Brian prompted the CoY response). 

site search is your friend: http://mgoblog.com/content/fort-sumter

"I stooped to pick up whatever flingable bit of detritus I could find, seized upon an empty water bottle, and chucked it at the booer. I missed,* lightly damaging an older man a row behind him. But I did get his attention. And the old guy looked like he was on The Other Side, so eff him."

Meh. If tossing an empty water bottle at someone booing Michigan athletes is a low point, what do you call it when frat brahs demand you give them your football seats when they arrive in the third quarter, dump liquor on you, and start pushing and swinging?

Really, the water bottle thing was funny, real, and something 99% of us have experienced in some way if you've attended Michigan football games and especially if you've been in any B10 student section.

I agree with your very first statement and I think that Brian gets a little too emotionally vested in the teams success.  Understood that this is fan as well as blog-success issue.

It must be tough to analyze/report on a team that is performing poorly, but he really has should do it and not come off so "fair-weathery."  I am sure having a 5-hour enema would be more fun, but he did choose to have a Michigan sports blog and sometimes needs to emotionally divest himself a little and try to analyze the things that are going wrong with various poor-preforming teams when they happen.

But being proud of the last month makes you uninformed?

Obviously, the season as a whole was not successful. But I think it's ok to be happy that they didn't lie down for an entire season. We had no goalie for 3/4 of the season. A lot of games, multiple soft goals were let in. I never played competitive hockey but I'm sure that its frustrating and discouraging. I came into this season thinking we'd have to fight til the end for an NCAA spot. Preseason ranking was crazy IMO because of our goalie issue.

I honestly think most fans are just happy they had something to cheer about for the hockey team the last month and were hoping a team that was dead in the water could somehow resurrect itself. Yes, they put themselves in that position but I think the play the last month should be praised. No reason to dwell on the past other than to remind yourself that you can't expect to win anything when you don't wake up til the last second. But I'd rather the team and fans focus on what we did right toward the end than what we did wrong earlier in the season

The team could have taken two very different paths at the end of the season. The team could have folded its tents and nobody would have been surprised. However, the team decided to take the season at heart and not go out like complete punks. We can find some positive in this season, especially with the end and the emergence of Racine as a decent goaltender. 

if you sat there and watch the Bowling Green game in January it was. 

If only we had twitter in the 90's. Pac and Biggie might still be here. /pours out a lil for his homies

frankly, the fact that this blog suddenly discovered basketball a couple of years ago already suggested the fairweather thing. This has basically proven it... the only sport that will ever get coverage here come what may is football.  

BUT, there is a difference between being critical of the team and being a fairweather whiner. Completely ceasing all hockey coverage falls into the latter.

That's a bit of a stretch for a guy that goes to every Michigan hockey game. So he decided to not write about the worst Michigan team in many of our lifetimes. It doesn't make him fairweather. If anything it makes him realistic and a smart business operator to divert his attention to the basketball team and things like "SeedWatch" and "B10 Power Rankings of Power"