Thought we saw lots of good things tonight. They really shot lights out and they're almost impossibleto beat when they hit like that. I think Maui could be Burke's coming out party. What did everyone else think? Everyone else craving another liveblog?
Good game. Played a very mediocre first half, and tough to beat a top tier team when you do that. Burke has really impressed. Overall, I am very happy with the team's progress.
We dug ourselves a hole in the first half, but I think Duke could've beaten anyone tonight playing / shooting the way they did (52% from three!). I have good feelings about this team though going forward, and Burke looks like he's getting better and better every game.
in the half for us.
Duke was amazing from 3pt range though. Even more amazingly, if we make our FT's and shoot a little better from distance (we were 31%), we might have been able to withstand that great shooting performance.
Trey Burke could be the Kemba Walker of the NCAA this year. He was relatively unknown until Maui.
I was really pleased with UMs performance today and hope we can secure third place tomarrow.
Actually Kemba was fairly well known since he was a freshman 5 star kid coming out of high school, averaged almost 15 as a sophomore....
I took out of this game that Tim needs to have someone else create his shot...not quite the offensive god I envisioned...Kinda goes with the idea that his plan is to stay for three years...
I also took out of this game an immense hatred toward Kelly
I'd have to disagree, granted in the first half his shots weren't falling and he did take a couple questionable shots. Once he hits his flow he can be unreal, ala that pushoff tre near the end of the game -- all him.
I wish I could "Like" the score of the comment...calling it insightful haha pretty funny
(If they don't leave early for the NBA, Mr. Brand.)
It looked worse than it was. But you cant come at a guy like that and not expect it to look bad to the ref.
Duke usually isn't going to shoot anywhere near a 65% eFG% (or whatever they ended up with) taking the shots they were taking. On a lot of nights that game ends up a win for Michigan.
They should be a major factor in the Big 10 this year.
Duke had an answer for every shot we put down and quashed much hope of any comeback. Hats off to Duke, but after evaluating both games, our season and our future looks realy bright. Very proud of this team's no quit attitude, long season still ahead so lets go blue!
I didn't get to watch it but it seems to Burke is going to be awesome. 17 pts and 9 assists vs #6 Duke and 14 pts and 4 assists vs #8 Memphis. If we're going to go far this year, it seems like we might live and die by Burke
If you think hes going to be awesome without seeing this game then just wait til you watch him play like he did tonight. He's more elusive than morris and can actually make a pull up jump shot or runner. He's the real deal.
If one of those blocking calls (pick almost any one of them) was called a charge...ughsigh.
Concur refs rabble.
Duke was getting some calls early..... They seem to get away with going over the back on a lot of rebounds but, overall, fouls were getting called both ways. If not for having to foul them at the end, Duke would have finished with more total team fouls. The discrepency at the stripe was to be expected.
Key stat...... Michigan out rebounded Duke. That's impressive.
The only problem I had was the duke dribblers pushing the defender with their "off" forearm...other than that, refs seemed to call everything both ways.
I won't pace around the family room with a stern look over this one. The guys played hard, it's early in the season, and we saw a lot of things in this game that are definite positives.
GRRR IMMA GO JUMP IN MIRROR LAKE
Its too bad we cant capitalize on opportunities. Fergodsakes make horford put on 40 lbs or tell him to not post up and tell Smotty hes not allowed to dribble or for that matter touch the ball unless hes wide open for a three.
First victory was Mitch Mcgary
He committed this year?
9 assists out of Trey Burke, 6-7 and 12 points from Jordan Morgan and some aggressive play against a Duke frontline
I think Burke will be Big Ten rookie of the Year and in contention for 2/3rd team All Big Ten, and if Jordan keeps this up with Hardaway giving us his 15-ish pts/game and actual bench production....We can be really good THIS YEAR is what I'm saying
They played hard, but Duke
This looks like a 4-6 seed with more potential if Smotrycz can figure out what to do with his skill set. Get hot from outside in a one and done situation and they can make some serious noise. With a guy we can post next year and Morgan's quality minutes off the bench? Sky's the limit.
I'm willing to wager McGary puts Smotrycz on the bench, not Morgan.
I wouldnt be shocked by a Burke-Hardaway-Smot-McGary-Morgan type of lineup
I thought both Morgan and Smotrycz did some nice things yesterday, but I was especially impressed with Morgan. I thought he looked very comfortable taking the ball at the Plumlees -- that baseline spin-reverse in the second half was particularly nifty, coming against one of the more imposing bigs in college basketball. I also think that the frontcourt of Morgan and McGary will complement itself nicely -- we see that Morgan can score on the block against anyone, and McGary can do a lot from the high post/wing.
Ya, I thought they both played well. Smotrcz only played 12 minutes as he was in foul trouble, so that seemed to make it tough for him to get in a rythm. I thought he hung in their besides that. Morgan had a couple of plays were I thought he had good post position against Duke but Burke didn't feed him the ball. Maybe Beilein just didn't have the confidence to have Morgan take Duke's defenders but, if not, once Burke gets more comfortable feeding the ball to his teammates then Morgan might get a few more chances. All in all it wasn't too bad. Duke was lights out shooting the ball and just dominated us the first half for the most part with some great defense and a few missed open shots on our part. Officiating was too bad. DIdn't like the last call on Novak, but that might just be my philosophic difference with basketball officiating.
Now add McGary and Robinson III. GET EXCITED!
Trey Burke is all kinds of awesome.
I like the way the team looks so early in the season (against the likes of teams not named Towson and WIU). In Iowa I haven't been able to see the first 3 games but after Memphis and Duke I am pleased (and somewhat surprised) to see how well the team plays together; this starts with the Freshman point guard. As mentioned already Duke wasn't losing to anyone tonight. Duke was able to build leads up to 15 pts and the way the Michigan team responded was awesome. They didn't get down and lose faith, they were still out to win the damn ballgame (coach Beilein helps with thes of course).
All in all great early season test(s) to build this team into an all-around contender.
(note: Duke also looks like a great. Can't wait to see battles between them and UNC this year)
Duke is a really good team and they shot lights out tonight. If we played them again, I doubt that they'd shoot so well and I think that we'd come out with the win. I'd like to see us shoot better though.
Definitely thought we would feel the loss of Morris a lot more and take time to gel as a team. Burke is legit right out of the gate. At this point it looks like we can expect a performance much like last year's only without the early season struggles. Hopefully the fellas can keep it up.
Thought it would take some time for this team to gel together -sans Darius Morris- like the way they were at the end of last year. it's great to see Burke step right in and control the point. Yes, he makes a few bad decisions and turns the ball over at times but overall, and considering how early it is, I love how this TEAM looks.
I'll be sad when we lose Novak next year
I keep thinking that next years team can only get better, but we will lose a lot in Stu and Novak. I'm proud of their contributions to help get this team and program to where it is.
I'm hoping Novak stays on as a grad assistant next year. We need his leadership, and he could help McGary since they know each other. No idea if this is even an option.
Horford's fine defensively, but doesn't provide the screens that Morgan does and Morgan was playing very well tonight so Beilein rode him.
I didn't watch duke, but what I saw from the memphis game, I thought we have a bit of foul leeway between Morgan and Horford. Plus the weight Smoctryz put on makes him a different player.
I'm just glad seeing a number next to Michigan football and basketball teams again, the way God intended.
and its awesome
I believe almost every team in the tournament has a similar warm up, and a couple have similar shoes as well. The funky color is "Maui Blue," it's supposed to be a tribute to the tournament.
Duke is good, they were great tonight. HOWEVER, everytime Duke plays, the refs are hanging out and chatting away with Coach K, and they are probably in awe of him. Then they proceed to give Duke every call all night. They flipped a call out of bounds to Dukes favor, Duke called a timeout, we fouled after the whistle, they still got the foul AND the timeout. Novak grabbed Kelly so he wouldn't fall and get crushed, but that is a technical foul. Duke is hard to beat when they are shooting like they were, but it's almost impossible when the refs are on their team too. Still, we were close, played a great second half after sleepwalking through the first. Only lost by single digits with a freshman point guard, I'll take it. We stil will get a game against Kansas or UCLA, which if we win will boost our RPI like crazy.
Let's just stop the childish "refs love Duke" meme. It's not true.
Refs have their calls (and non-calls) video-analyzed by their supervisors and graded. They are scrutinized by themselves, their peers, and most importantly by their coordinators. This is what decides if they keep working in the NCAA or not (or in the case of good officials, how many post-season games they receive).
It's a profession. There are plenty of guys waiting in the wings dreaming of a shot. If a ref favored one team - even subconsiously - they wouldn't last long in the NCAA.
Bruke will be better than Morris. Mark my words
thats obvious. He has more natural talent than the butterfly as is...
The first half doomed us. They shot really well and theyre tough to beat when they do that but I thought we played hard. Our defense couldve played better, we couldve rebounded better and we couldve had less turnovers. Obviously when you dont do that, you will probably lose, you cant play from behind and expect to win against a team like duke. Some bright spots were Trey Burke and how we played in the second half but you gotta play a complete game to beat a team like duke. Oh and Tim Hardaway Jr is still a beast, great second half by him. The rest of the season is still bright though, Trey Burke is a star in the making and Hardaway already is a star when he plays a complete game.
I can't believe we didn't get blown off the court considering the heavy referee bias, their lights-out three point shooting and all the junk prayer shots that were dropping for them. If you're a ref you live for moments when you get to officiate a Duke game in the presence of Coach K. Maybe they got a picture with him for their dens.
I agree, we couldve played better and we were still in it. Regardless, its gonna be a fun season.
I agree that in many games, the refs skew towards Duke, but I really dont think so in this game...young Plumlee got 3 charges called on him and they did get a few over the back calls as well. Michigan lost because of the early ganme struggles and lights out shooting by Duke, not the refs.
Good game though and this should be a fun year, I say 4 or 5 seed in the tourney.
It's going to be a great year. That said I don't feel like we played very smart. I understand the offense we run but at the same time we took a lot of bad shots. If THJ struggles for periods we are in trouble.
into an instant offense type player off the bench we have the potential to go beyond the Sweet 16. During our first half dry spell, we needed one more person on the floor that could break down the defense. Brundidge is the only other person on the roster with that potential IMO. Either way, a real good showing. Burke played a ton of minutes though. I hope that doesnt show in the game tomorrow...
I agree. I think Brundidge could be a significant asset in the role you described. It would be a huge weapon to be able to deploy midway through the second half in close games. . . and, you know, other times. Like an Eddie House or Bobby Jackson type from a couple years ago(NBA).
Great game by two awesome coaches, we lost and loss is never good. However we saw Michigan make several late runs and hope we can build from this game.
We need to get Timmy involved earlier next game going to the bucket. The guy is explosive and probably can beat anyone off the dribble. He took a lot of jumpshots in the first half but wasn't that involved in the offense. He is the guy that can put this team on his back.
I've already said a few times how I like Burke and think he's further along as a freshmen than Darius was as a freshmen. Very impressed with all aspects of Burke's game and can't wait for him to grow and become a bigger leader.
...I was impressed that our "seasoned" players didn't give up and took it right back at them, and Trey knows no fear. I'm impressed. Sometimes the other team's shooting the lights out, and there's not much you can do but keep at it and hope they cool off. We'll have some nights like that too.
Frustrating that Duke was so good in shooting especially from 3 point range. Michigan played well and it is VERY early and all of this is good preparation for the Big Ten season. Tomorrow we get a chance to get 3rd place out of 8 strong teams in the tournament. All in all a good start to the season
duke was lucky. got every call and made every half court prayer. they're good shooters yes... aren't we supposed to be good shooters? wtf. me=angry+drunk
Thoughts from the last two games
-On the ball defense was terrible tonight. Which led to drive and dish 3pt shots.
-Burke is the real deal. Still has frosh moments but very few.
-Still think Hardaway isn't a "super star" or number 1. I think he makes a great number 2 when defenses don't game play around him. Like last year. He still struggles with dribbling at times. I think Next year with Mcgary we will see the best of THJ.
-Evan Smotcvjojjpok is a player that will either help you or kill you. He is still weak with the ball(gets the ball knocked away). Has major trouble with anyone with a hint of athletic skill. You would love for him to come off the bench but not with the current roster. He still looks at the refs to often as well.
-Hortford still needs a lot work. I really don't see the upside his brother had. His movements are just awkward and that is hard to change. I can see him being a good role player but never a big time player. He will always come off the bench if I had to guess.
-FT shooting is still a head scratcher. 3 ball is off... bah.
-Stu is still not a PG so Burke is it. Duh I know.
was too often when M would actually record a defensive stop on Duke (which was rarely with Duke hitting every shot, even those very well contested), they'd run right back down and launch up the first three look they got. TAKE THE EXTRA PASS!
Noticed this as well. Fortunately, this...is...Fixable!
They're playing at the Palace December 10. You dont think it will sell out do you? I want to go, but dont really want to pay the Palace's ridiculous "convenience" charges. There is a box office there for walk-up customers, yes?
Also, is anyone else going walmart eagle to the EMU/MSU game at the Convocation Center on Sunday? My wife is an EMU grad, and our Washtenaw county brothers could use some support.
Rooting for EMU would be very little brotherish. We play MSU twice, while we never play EMU. Accordingly, it's in our best interests for MSU to win. We'll get our crack at them later.
Does anyone else notice how Coach K's team is built more like a prototypical Beilien team? The 3 Duke guards with Kelly and you have 4 capable 3 point shooters that can spread the floor. An absolute zone buster! I truly believe that Coach K seen that Beilien's teams would be a thorn in his side in the near future and built his team accordingly. That ability to adjust to the times is what keeps Coach K ahead of the class IMO. Probably explains why he went after McGary so hard, knowing that Michigan would definitely have the final piece to put his team to pasture. Michigan has a great coach with a beautiful proven eye for talent (Burke, Hardaway, Morris,) and I'm excited about this team and the future. I see a championship coming to Ann Arbor sooner than we think!
As much as I'd like to believe that teams across the country take beating Michigan to be their main goal every year, I tend to believe that this isn't true.
I am EXCITE for MICH hoops. This team will compete for a Big Ten Title.
God did Duke really shoot lights out.
Michigan wins this game when Duke shoots, you know, not 65% or whatever outrageous number they did.
Feelin' good about this team.
It sucks to lose, I hate Duke, future is bright. That is all.
I think he will do well under JB. I did see him force a few shots, but I don't think we'll see the return of Mannyball.
Still early, but I am fairly certian of a sweet 16 this year...possibly more if THJ gets it going.
Once Burke and Hardaway get more familiar with supporting each others game and Burke figures out where SMots like his shot from this team is going to take off.