UM DL position changes
Magnus has info about possible DL position changes for 2012. Give him a view.
http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2012/02/possible-position-changes-for-roh-and.html
how is this not on the board yet? what is happening around here?
February 13th, 2012 at 2:51 PM ^
February 13th, 2012 at 2:34 PM ^
To answer your question; Why would someone want to know what a random junior middle school assistant football equipment manager thinks MIGHT happen with the Michigan Football team DL positions?
February 13th, 2012 at 2:35 PM ^
Wasn't Beyer recruited as a weak-side end in the first place? How much would he have to bulk up to play there effectively?
February 13th, 2012 at 2:40 PM ^
Yeah, Beyer was introduced as a DE during last year's NSD press conference, and he played DE in high school. I think his playing SAM was just a function of a) a lack of depth and b) his lack of bulk. Someone close to him e-mailed me at one point and told me he was up to 235, and that was several months ago, so I imagine he's even bigger now.
February 13th, 2012 at 2:43 PM ^
Remember Dantonio making a jackass of himself because he didn't like Hecklinski's presentation on Michigan recruiting.
Below is a screen shot of the opening to Spartan LB Coach Mike Tressel's segment at the coaches clinic last Friday. Aside from this slide, there had to have been a dozen other pictures and clips of the MSU game vs us last year (including multiple repeats of the sack on 4th down). I realize this is what coaches do. It's part of their presentation. Unfortunately, Dantonio didn't get the memo.
February 13th, 2012 at 3:32 PM ^
Am I missing something in this picture?
February 13th, 2012 at 2:40 PM ^
February 13th, 2012 at 2:43 PM ^
Here's to never (or rarely) watching Brennan Beyer's gangliness in coverage again.
February 13th, 2012 at 3:09 PM ^
Cant beat beers and food with the coaching staff. I enjoyed watching them practice. I will be in attendance again this year. If you aren't a coach, get with a friend who is, its well worth the inside look.
February 13th, 2012 at 3:32 PM ^
Agreed. It's not often you get a chance to sit around with a big-time college football coach while he tips back a few beers. It's a pretty cool experience to see them in a relaxed situation, rather than on the football field or giving motivational talks.
February 13th, 2012 at 3:12 PM ^
Where can I get a Frank Clark jersey online?
February 13th, 2012 at 3:50 PM ^
http://www.mden.com/shopping/product.cgi?AD870+1500
You can't get his name and number though because that is an NCAA violation. I guess you can order #57 and hope he doesn't change number before the season.
February 13th, 2012 at 4:02 PM ^
I was really hoping this move would happen. Seeing how it allows us to get our best players on the field. I see Roh playing SDE at 280lbs this season which should be fine for his frame. So, after that move I see the DL depth chart looking like this:
SDE: Roh, Brink, Wormley/Godin
DT: Q.Wash, Wilkins/Rock
NT: B.W.C, PeeWee
WDE: Black/Clark, Beyer
**-Black- Will get time both on WDE and SDE. IMO I see Black as the starting WDE and Clark coming in to relieve Black and coming in pass rush situations. I don't think Black will have the weight for the 3-tech since he couldn't put on the weight last year.
As for the linebackers and Cam Gordon
WILL: Morgan, Poole/Ross/Ringer
MIKE: Demens, Jones, Bolden/RJS
SAM: Ryan, Gordon, RJS/Bolden
This depth chart is only for the first few games or so..after that I see the freshman making moves up the depth chart. Also I think after demens leaves Morgan will move to Mike and either Ross or Poole will take the starting will spot.
February 13th, 2012 at 4:19 PM ^
but that DT spot is extremely unproven, unheralded, and unimpressive to-date. Could see one of your projected DE slide inside regularly, or even in most situations that aren't likely runs. Similar to how Heininger and RVB (nominal DEs, at least sometimes) often ended up inside.
February 13th, 2012 at 4:18 PM ^
what do you guys see the front 7 looking like next year? here is what i came up with
WDE- clark
DT- pipkins
NT- campbell
SDE- roh
WILL- bolden / morgan
MIKE- demens
SAM- ryan
February 13th, 2012 at 5:11 PM ^
This is good news...
February 13th, 2012 at 8:22 PM ^
WDE:
1. Frank Clark
2. JiBreel Black
3. Jake Ryan
4. Brennen Beyer
NG:
1. Will Campbell
2. Richard Ash
3. Quinton Washington
4. Ondre Pipkins
DT:
1. Quinton Washington
2. Ondre Pipkins
3. Kenny Wilkins
4. Matt Godin/JiBreel Black
SDE:
1. Craig Roh
2. JiBreel Black
3. Nathan Brink
4. Chris Wormley
WLB:
1. Desmond Morgan
2. Brandon Hawthorne
3. James Ross
4. Kaleb Ringer
MLB:
1. Kenny Demens
2. Joe Bolden
3. Mike Jones
4. Royce Jenkins Stone
SLB:
1. Jake Ryan
2. Cam Gordon
3. Jordan Paskorz
4. Mike Jones
February 13th, 2012 at 8:51 PM ^
I'm a little bit surprised that so many people (not just you) are penciling Pipkins in as a 3-tech. Pipkins is more of a prototypical nose tackle than a 3-tech. I'm not ruling it out as a possibility that Pipkins plays the 3-tech, because I think the nose tackle position is more important and they might want a more experienced guy there. But Campbell hasn't really shown the ability to defeat double-teams, while he has shown the ability to destroy single blocks. It could really mess up an offense if they feel like they have to double-team the 3-tech AND the 1-tech.
February 13th, 2012 at 11:15 PM ^
I hear you, it's just personally...I think the NG position is more demanding. I'm not sure our coaches are going to leave that up to a freshman.
I DO think Pipkins will be the starting NG in 2013-14...I just think he'll get a year at DT where they'll say. Stay low and go get the football. And then he'll learn the position a little more and be able to move over when Campbell leaves.
IMO it'll be: Campbell/Ash at NG and Washington/Pipkins at DT this year...and then it'll be Pipkins/Ash at NG and Washington/(Godin, Rock, Black, maybe Wormley) at DT the following season.
February 13th, 2012 at 10:47 PM ^
How come you don't have Antonio Poole listed anywhere?
February 13th, 2012 at 11:24 PM ^
This is why I update the depth chart I post every other month or so...so I don't forget anyone.
With that said, I'd have Poole as the #4 WLB ahead of Ringer so it's not like it matters to much for this exercise.
Really I have Ringer and RJS both redshirtting and Ross and Bolden playing.
I could see Ringer missing the RS because he's already with the team, and maybe Ross would want to RS if he's just going to be on special teams. So I could see them swapping. Bolden plays. Demens job is obviously safe...but on passing downs, I wouldn't be shocked to see Demens watching and Bolden out on the field at MLB. OR depending on what happens with Cam Gordon, I wouldn't be shocked to see Ryan at WDE, Demens at SLB and Bolden at MLB on passing downs.
February 14th, 2012 at 12:48 AM ^
I think that many of you are underestimating Brennen Beyer. He has a lot of speed and athleticism. This isn't a move to bury him in the depth chart. This is a move to get him on the field in his ideal position. It will be interesting to see the battle between Clark and Beyer for WDE. He is gaining a lot of weight and Mattison seems to be very high on him as he is on Clark. The Spring practices will tell us a lot.
February 14th, 2012 at 5:07 AM ^
I agree that it's not a move to bury Beyer. I think he'll be the backup WDE, but he wouldn't start at SAM, either, so it's not bad for him...it's just a change.
February 16th, 2012 at 1:48 PM ^
#3 SAM to maybe #2 WDE depending on what happens to Black.
February 14th, 2012 at 1:05 AM ^
I just wanted to confirm the inforation provided. Mattison said Beyer would be moving to DE, and Roh would be moving to SDE.
February 14th, 2012 at 5:04 AM ^
Thanks.