Schembo

September 19th, 2013 at 5:04 PM ^

I'll disagree with you there.  The chicken dance was meant to mock Notre Dame.  Neither the players nor the ND fans had anything to do with the series being cancelled and they shouldn't have been subjected to listening to that as they were leaving the stadium or walking back to the tunnel after defeat.  It was disrespectful, imo.  At least the Go Blue message wasn't disrespectful.

ChuckieWoodson

September 19th, 2013 at 1:41 PM ^

here seriously need to lighten the fuck up.  It was a funny prank, and probably cost 2k.  So Ticket prices have nothing to do with this and we didn't "lose" the moral high-ground - just take it for what it is, a fun prank with a rival and go about your day.  Way too many panties getting into binds here

CooperLily21

September 19th, 2013 at 1:49 PM ^

You are not right.  Brandon has clearly been concerned about protecting the Michigan brand and he went (or someone under his control went) and did something that directly affects the brand in a negative way.  It was stupid.  Not fun.  Not funny.  And its embarrassing to fans like me who pride themselves on not being douchebags (or, like me, at least trying to not be douchebags).

CooperLily21

September 19th, 2013 at 2:51 PM ^

Its not a game when stupid pranks like this are endorsed by the AD itself.  Its fun when a former/current player does it, or coaches joke about it, or fans/alumni.  But when a body that is supposed to be professional and removed from this kind of stuff does it, then I'm embarrassed about it.  Its not about what was done, its about who did it.  Like I said above, unprofessionalism is unprofessional.

But like he said above, agree to disagree.  At the end of the day its a dumb little thing.  I just don't like Michigan being associated with dumb things, big or small.

ChuckieWoodson

September 19th, 2013 at 3:08 PM ^

I'm not saying that I liked it.  I'm just amazed by some of the posters here saying "Fire Brandon!  I'm super embarrassed... etc etc".  Just don't understand how something like this evokes that much of a response.

But hey, the good news is our friends in ND will make MSU forget about this pretty quick after they pound them into the ground this Saturday.

MGoManBall

September 19th, 2013 at 1:41 PM ^

It's not that big of a deal. $5,000 divided by the 115,000 people who attended the Michigan-ND game would amount to a little over 4 cents a ticket going towards this trolling.

Just this past weekend we were laughing at how epic this was. Now that it cost you a penny it's an outrage. 

/grumblegrumblegrumble

 

M-Wolverine

September 19th, 2013 at 2:25 PM ^

No one is complaining about the cost, it's the misuse of funds. Whether it be season ticket seat license increases OR student ticket price increases the money no matter how little or big should be spent on something better than this. Take my .03 cents or whatever it is; just don't waste it.

mGrowOld

September 19th, 2013 at 2:01 PM ^

For me it's not the cost (although I think it's a terribly wasteful use of funds) it's the fact our Athletic Department thought this was a good idea and sanctioned it.  If State did this to us (had somebody write Go Green) over the stadium and we found their AD did it we'd have an absolute field day mocking them for it.  

I didnt think it was all that funny then and I certainly don't think it's all that funny now.  We're better than this.

ChetChill

September 19th, 2013 at 2:20 PM ^

And it would cost, what, $50,000 to send the band to Dallas but Brandon thought the AD couldn't afford it.  "Oh, that's only $.50 extra per ticket for one game."  This guy knows NOTHING of the Michigan brand.  I hope he gets booed next week as he glad hands around the field and tries to get himself on tv like a six year old boy. 

Schmoe

September 19th, 2013 at 1:47 PM ^

This is a sad day for me.  A Michigan Alum who's passion since he was 5 years old has been Michigan Football.  Seems pretty clear the athletic department targeted East Lansing.  What a lame thing to do and a complete waste of money.  I will never forget this Dave Brandon. You betrayed me. 

marlon

September 19th, 2013 at 1:50 PM ^

This is what you get when you hire a dolt like Brandon to be your athletic director.  Unbelievably amateur and immature.  Other than his superb people skills and local connections, I don't know how he made it to the top of the Domino's chain.  Guy's just not that bright.

marlon

September 19th, 2013 at 4:04 PM ^

So what you're saying is, if you spend time on this blog, you can't be making millions?  Talk about illogical.  I know of at least three millionaires (not pro athletes) who spend time, and/or post, on this blog.

Also, what does your first "point" have to do with your second "point."  I submit: absolutely nothing.  Ergo, to repeat myself, your post is illogical.

Callahan

September 19th, 2013 at 2:06 PM ^

I've never been more embarrassed as a Michigan fan. The ridiculously crass halftime band performances were embarrassing enough (last year's show that had the Horseshoe as a toilet, or that craptastic Bond show from the CMU game). I've always thought we're above shit like this, but not only are we not above it, we've become the leaders in it. 

VamosAzul

September 19th, 2013 at 1:59 PM ^

You guys and your fire and brimstone! I love this shit! And I happen to like most of what DB does (except the noodle). He knows how to sell a brand and from an outside perspective, the M brand is exponentially stronger than it was when he started and for the years prior-- largely due to his decisions to shamelessly self promote the University of Michigan and it's programs. And if you want to credit Hoke and winning football games, remember it was Brandon who ignored the calls for all the big names causing half of us to clamor "da fuq is a hoke!?" Brandon is largely responsible for saving a Michigan brand that was tanking harder than blackberry and (with the exception of the noodle) I tend to have faith that he knows what he is doing. And stoking an instate rivalry to draw attention to ourselves and the out dated, out marketed, and out played B1G is a positive move. Just my thoughts.

Committed

September 19th, 2013 at 2:09 PM ^

People are embarrassed cuz of this? Why is society in general so sensitive? No one got hurt...it's a friendly prank. I'm sure they'll prank us too. We have a rivalry with them...this is common among rivalries...at least this rivalry didn't include trees being poisoned.

I don't 'like' that we did it...I just really don't care. It's a sibling rivalry after all.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

September 19th, 2013 at 2:20 PM ^

Personally I'm not embarrassed.  Just annoyed that Mr. We Don't Have The Money To Send The Band To Dallas has the money for skywriting.  Hyper-aggressive revenue generation only to spend the money on a stunt like this is obnoxious. 

ak47

September 19th, 2013 at 4:22 PM ^

As was discussed around the time of the band, Dave Brandon, when creating the athletic department budget for the year did it with the agreement that the band would be busing down to the game.  When the band refused that, it required additional funds to fly them down, additional funds that did not exist because they were already allocated elsewhere in the budget, flying the band down would have meant taking money away from somewhere else in the AD it had already been promised.  Is dave brandon blameless? no he and the band director didn;t communicate well but I don't believe the AD just has some slush fund of money lying around, chances are that brandon when creating the budget built in a cost for sky writing because it went over well last year and since we were already hiring them to fly all over south east michigan thought it would be fun to do it over east lansing too.  Dave Brandon isn't perfect but the vitriol for him on this blog is unwarranted as he has responded to fan criticism in the past and is never entirely to blame for what many people on this blog pin on him.

ak47

September 19th, 2013 at 4:58 PM ^

How is that what I said?  That clearly wasn't his decision, in the budget last year he had the band at the game, just at the cost of busing down, not flying.

Clearly they believed the cost of sky writing was worth it given the thousands of people who look up at the sky and see it, it has a pretty big reach on a nice day.

Token_sparty

September 20th, 2013 at 9:15 AM ^

The entire University utilizes a budget year that spans from July 1 to June 30, so it's actually the end of Q1.  Then again, Athletics earns enough from revenue sports to return 1-5M annually to the University, being one of the few such departments around the country that doesn't operate at a deficit.  It just makes Dave Brandon look like Shooter McGavin, which is how I will recognize him forevermore.  It was cool when the skywriting was local and repped UM- nothing wrong with 'building your brand', as the suits say.  Writing a message like that in EL is a different thing entirely.  UM would like to pretend that MSU is not a 'real' rival like OSU, but a stunt like this, underwritten by Athletics, makes it a lie, and cedes the moral high ground to State.  

For what it's worth, I'm staff here and work with budgets a lot, in an auxiliary just like Athletics.  If I had greenlit a 3-5K expense for something like this, I would have been fired before even having an opportunity to reconcile the charges.  I say that to give an idea who might've authorized this.

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You're welcome for that, btw.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

September 19th, 2013 at 5:01 PM ^

Again though, here's the point: Regardless of the behind-the-scenes process with the band, you have a decision made entirely based on money and with zero thought to fan experience.  That's not how the department should operate.  Nor should it be as hyper-aggressive as it is in revenue generation (again, at some point you're just alienating people) if they're getting to the point where they have money to spend on out-there frills like this.

Regardless of how well the sky writing goes over, I think most fans would trade it for not having the experience peppered with revenue generating things like giant noodles and Arby's stuff.

party like its 1989

September 19th, 2013 at 2:17 PM ^

How about DB matches (with his personal funds) whatever Sparty raises for the Michigan Ovarian Cancer Alliance. Also, I applaud Scott Westerman, MSU Alum Assoc Dir, for spinning this thing around to something good. go green....kinda...a little?

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

September 19th, 2013 at 2:55 PM ^

Probably the funniest thing that came out of it was the Sparty in the original thread about the skywriting who came in and said "55-17, bitches."  (Or whatever their score was on Saturday.)  Sincerely bragging about your Youngstown State score is one of the most quintessential LB things I can think of.