U of M Fraternities Damage 2 Northern Michigan Resorts $50,000.00 Damages.
I was a little shocked and so disappointed when I read this article. This is is not something I would ever expect from the Univeristy of Michigan Student Fraternities and apparently more than one Fraternity was involved with $50,000.00 in damages.
This is something we criticize MSU, OSU for when vadalism occurs after a hugh bowl win. What happened here? U of M has more class than this!
Wow - What is going on here?
I have personally stayed at these resorts had a great time, partied and we have never left damages in our wake of the groups I was with.
This is bad!
Edit: I am more surprised at some of the posts on here thinking that this is not University of Michigan or Mgoblog related. I have seen too many posts of stupid student activities of MSU and OSU starting fires, etc. after winning a bowl game and these same people on here believe that $50K in damages caused by Fraternities of the U of M is not worthy of being on the board and that it does not have an affect on the U of M. Hopefully not a lasting affect, but it does when it is highlighted in the news that these students are from the University of Michigan that caused this kind of damage to the personal property of Resorts in Northern Michigan and if you think that this will not be in the news nationwide you are under estimating social media.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:24 AM ^
Awesome excuse, wonder how the judge will like that. Having a good time does not have to equal property damage and sheer stupidity.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:30 AM ^
They also tore down some ceiling tiles and much more. I have been 18 - 22 and have had a great time partying, I have never been with a group of people this destructive.
My point, I don't know what the hell it is. I just don't ever expect to hear about the U of M Fraternities doing this kind of damage at a ski resort and yes $50,000.00 is alot of damage and does give a black eye to the U of M and because a few students can't control themselves. The way I see it they are representing the University of Michigan as long as they are enrolled at the University. Face it you would be laughing your ass off if it was any other University.
January 21st, 2015 at 9:07 AM ^
Sorry, sierragold, I have to comment on this post, too.
"I just don't ever expect to hear about the U of M Fraternities doing this kind of damage at a ski resort ..."
What they did is extreme and disgusting. There's another post here (recommended reading) that goes into gory detail about another incident. That alone should (IMO) alter your expectations. You don't *ever* expect to hear something like this?
"... does give a black eye to the U of M ..."
Sorry -- no *reasonable* person is going to use that to smear UM. Only people that like to say "scUM" will make a big deal out of this.
"... they are representing the University of Michigan as long as they are enrolled at the University ..."
Sorry, no -- this is a private affair.
"Face it you would be laughing your ass off if it was any other University."
Nope -- I'd chalk it up to a bunch of 20-something idiots under the influence of some bad groupthink (the dark side, btw, of Greek System culture).
January 21st, 2015 at 7:38 PM ^
It's the FRONT page story on detnews.com now. So much for it doesn't reflect on Michigan as a whole.
January 21st, 2015 at 10:10 AM ^
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January 21st, 2015 at 9:32 AM ^
I was in a fraternity. We had our fun, we even did some stupid shit, like 98% of all college students.
I also made a lot of great friends, had help from brothers taking similar classes, did community service, and helped with several events that aided my university.
Almost all criticism of greek life comes from ignorant point of views from people who were never a part of it.
All of the great stories about greek life are never printed in the paper.
January 21st, 2015 at 9:33 AM ^
You just...hiccup...you just....hiccup....You just don't understand me...
January 21st, 2015 at 10:10 AM ^
And almost all criticism of scientology comes from people who were never a part of it. You don't have to be a part of something to criticize it accurately.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:13 AM ^
They pay for friends. Now they must pay for their friends actions.
/ducks
January 21st, 2015 at 10:07 AM ^
BEST POST OF THE DAY!!!!
January 21st, 2015 at 8:14 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 8:17 AM ^
I will never support this kind of action from a Fraternity from the University of Michigan. It is very disappointing that several current Fraternity Students were involved in something of this nature.
January 21st, 2015 at 9:19 AM ^
Who's supporting this action? None of us do. You just don't see us going on an internet rant about it on a UM sports blog.
The frats/sororities will dig up the cash and pay for it. Problem solved. Chances are their nationals will punish them with something and they won't be partying anytime soon. Do you know how many bar-hosted paint parties/bubble/bikini parties are hosted by frats around Ann Arbor every year? That stuff causes damage too.
50k is a bit ridiculous,hence the involvement of their national chapters. It's not like they're "getting away" with it like you want us to believe.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:18 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 8:19 AM ^
I actually am....that is ALOT of furniture. At no point did they think that they would have to pay for it? Dumb
January 21st, 2015 at 8:22 AM ^
Generalize much? The assholes that did this should be held accountable beyond just paying for the damages. However, let's not lump all fraternities and its members in with these dickheads.
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January 21st, 2015 at 8:33 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 11:13 AM ^
While that's they way it should be viewed, it won't be. Hardly anyone will know the name of the frat, just that it was frat boys from the University of Michigan.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:20 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 8:22 AM ^
I have a feeling you'd be a little more "shocked" if this happened to your house/business.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:34 AM ^
I think you're confusing "shocked" and "pissed off". UM frat guys are definitely capable of being assholes, just like any student at any school especially in large groups and with alcohol involved. So no I'm not shocked.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:42 AM ^
I'm sure it'd be shocking if it happened at one of our own homes or busniesses, and to concede his point...the fact that 18-22 yr old kids did it shouldn't be shocking, especially since they were very drunk at the time.
Most on here are above college age and can say what we will about it, but this situation seemed to be the perfect storm of wrong choices and it happens. Shameful that it happened to Michigan students, but smart kids make dumb choices, too. As recent happenings at the Air Force Academy, my alma mater, would prove, it happens all the time to a lot of different types of kids.
Thinking that a kid who drinks to excess is above this sort of behavior because of where they go to school is shortsighted and is a barrier to preventing it from happening again.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:22 AM ^
Not surprised.
Don't fraternities/sororities have to get University approval to operate on campus? So aren't they school-sanctioned clubs and thus representatives of the school?
Drunken student hijinks are one thing, but 50K in damage to private property is serious shit.
They deserve all the legal, criminal, and school-related penalties coming at them.
January 21st, 2015 at 9:36 AM ^
to your first question. For many reasons, greek life at Michigan does not have a ton of connections to the admin. The houses not in ifc or another council have none. The unconnected are generally protected because they are at a public school so the university cannot take away their right to assembly which is protected by the Constitution.
January 21st, 2015 at 10:20 AM ^
most, and for all I know, all Mich frats are in the IFC. Frats are suspended by public colleges all the time.
January 21st, 2015 at 12:44 PM ^
SAE, ZBT, and Sig are all large fraternities that are not in the UM IFC.
January 21st, 2015 at 1:17 PM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 11:03 PM ^
Mudbowl still goes on as normal. Technically sororities aren't supposed to mix with them but it happens all the time anyways. Easy to get around the rules (as with most things).
January 21st, 2015 at 1:29 PM ^
for example SAE isn't in IFC because IFC kicked them out in 2011. SAE still exists though. They aren't the only ones, I was just going with an example of the "frat that does mudbowl." And again, at Michigan, IFC (student peers, not the college) kicks frats off, but this does not mean they stop being a thing. SAE still owns their house on private property and has the right to assemble there
January 21st, 2015 at 12:04 PM ^
there won't be any school-related penalties unless the people in charge of such things decide that the alleged conduct shows the people involved to be a threat to members of the university community.
Fraternity members are no more representatives of the school than any other student is.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:23 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 8:29 AM ^
I'm surprised they mentioned one and not the other two.
This really isnt' that surprising to me.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:33 AM ^
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January 21st, 2015 at 11:20 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 8:32 AM ^
No surprise here. Fraternities have been embarrassments for a long time. This will just be another in a long line of incidents that gets mentioned in arguments that fraternities should be banned from college campuses.
January 21st, 2015 at 9:38 AM ^
The right to assemble is protected by the Constitution so as long as it is a public university ....
January 21st, 2015 at 1:14 PM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 1:32 PM ^
are the ones that can actually bring the hammer ... but even then, sig was kicked out of nationals and keep being a thing by just shortening their name
January 22nd, 2015 at 11:53 AM ^
You must find it very confusing when schools ban fraternities.
http://www.newsweek.com/inside-colleges-killed-frats-good-231346
January 21st, 2015 at 8:32 AM ^
I wouldn't chalk this up to "frat boys being frat boys." I was in a fraternity and while we did stupid stuff all the time, destroying others' property was never something we engaged in.
Why not call it "drunk assholes being drunk assholes" ?
January 21st, 2015 at 8:52 AM ^
mobilize enough of a crew to do this sort of damage and shame the U of M. If my friends and I were to have done this we may have assembled 2 rooms not an entire floor. Would have garnered complaints/police and wound up in jail overnight. And we would not have had any affiliation with the school. Woulda been a few guys who got drunk, broke shit, and paid the price. The bitches who did this did it with impunity because they had entire wings and wound nd up giving the U of M headlines. Kinda like couch burning.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:37 AM ^
LOL SAMMY of all frats???? Wow... well I'm sure the 50k will be coming out of all their rainy day funds...
Looks like they're gonna have quite a few less parties this semester wow.
January 21st, 2015 at 9:31 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 9:39 AM ^
Well lucky for them Sammy has deep pockets.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:40 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 8:46 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 8:46 AM ^
but $50K? That's a lot of ceiling tiles.
January 21st, 2015 at 9:24 AM ^
January 21st, 2015 at 8:52 AM ^
Currently News outlets are reporting this in Northern Michigan to Ann Arbor and probably beyond. If you think this has no affect on the U of M, I will say you are mistaken. No the University can't control what the idiots do off campus.
If the Fraternity's can't get together and not destroy private property that is an issue and does come down on the University in some way, especially when the U of M is having to assure the resorts involved that the damages will be taken care of. I feel that there should also be some penalties to the fraternity's involved from the University.
Why was I shocked, I guess because I cannot remember the last time that the U of M students caused this kind of damage to personal property in the tune of $50K. In reality the disappointment is more than the shock.
January 21st, 2015 at 12:54 PM ^
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