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this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
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As others have said we have gotten into the top couple for a handful of recruits. That is a victory. This staff has done a marvelous job and I'm going to try not to doubt them until such time as our classes consistently fail to meet expectations.
Disappointing but we will live.
Now I have to listen to friends tell me I shouldn't care because he's going to my other alma mater. Commence rage.
right?!?!? ughhh....oh well.
was any other position where we most a 5 star I thought we would get, I'd be more enraged lol. Very disappointed tho
is why I think Berkely Edwards will end up in Ann Arbor.
Well, this opens up a spot for a 4th WR, which I hope is the route the coaches take. One of Larue, Stringfellow, and Allen and then Treadwell would make a pretty decent WR class.
A lil bummed until I look at the rest of our class......the combo of our o-line and passing game with Shane will make any guy running the ball that much better!
The USC Trojans got a really great RB there. Best of luck to him.
Hopefully, he will come to his senses and change his mind before NSD. But if not, hopefully Coach Hoke has a plan B at running back. Michigan seems to be snake-bit when it comes to recruiting at RB in the last decade or more. Very few highly rated guys and the ones we did get either flamed out or played well below expectations. So when this thought comes to my mind, I think of Mike Hart and things are better.
ship has sailed, Coach Hoke will not save a spot for him.
This is a disappointment for sure. However, I don't think it's too surprising, nor will it be too damaging to Michigan's future. As I said in another post (and other poeple have echoed) RB's are the one position where you never really know. I think Ty is going to good. But, I think Michigan has some very good back, and is in on others, so we should collectively freak out.
In terms of the, "Michigan doesn't get blue chip RB's...rabble rabble..." meme, I wanted to share my opinion on the subject -- for what it's worth. Michigan, for all it's tradition, doesn't really have a tradition of putting out RB's that excel in the NFL. By contrast, a program like USC does. Until that changes -- and it might very soon -- Michigan is going to miss out on a lot of high profile RB's that aren't Michigan fans growing up. Michigan's hisorical ground game success is perceived, IMO, as the product of elite OL's, not elite backs.
You also have to take into consideration that Ty might want to run against the less punishing defenses of the Pac-12 rather than the historically run-tough defenses in the Big-10. If, as the pundits say, a RB has so many carries in him, it makes sense to take the path of least resistence, so to speak. Have no fear, Michigan will have get the RB's it needs to again compete for the NC, they just might not have the star-appeal that the fans covet so.
A little levity:
Jesus, is the world about to be hit by an asteroid?
Can anyone remember who Michigan's all-time leading rusher is? He must have been a ELITE FIVE-STAR HURR-HURR-HURR right? OK, here's a hint: he also holds the records for games with 100+, 150+ and 200+ yards.
Yeah, I can't remember either. 2007 was so long ago.
RBs are sooooo overrated!
Trent Richardson was a five star
He also averaged 5.0 yards per carry for his career. Which is not great. He just carried the ball a million times and was tough enough to not miss half his career because of it.
Okay, Sparty. This is Michigan fergodsakes. Aim higher.
I figured everyone here could use this.
Oh well. Guys who want to be here are the guys we want.
You can't spell suck with out usc
You can't spell "without."
so this is not much of a surprise to me. I would not be surprised if Treadwell also went elsewhere and we finish this year much like last year with some solid plan B type guys after missing on the late supers. Thankfully we loaded up early.
You meant to put /s....right? I really hope so because no matter how this class finishes...it is still going to be one of the best recruiting classes since they started rating classes and quite possibly the best ever (IMO).
For what it's worth, I felt Ty was gone as well, but Michigan only has about 5 or 6 spots left with at least a dozen or so highly rated guys left (Top 150 depending on your favorite site), which means we can only expect to hit on about 20-25% of our remaining targets and while that does not sound good.....you have to look at the class as a whole.
$$$$$$$$$ + snoop dog = u$c
With your profile being negative almost 10K points, are MGoBoard users obligated to "Flamebait" everything you have to say good or bad??
Why did my comment get deleted?
We have Smith and an elite offensive line as far as recruiting goes. We'll have no problem going back to the days of pounding MSU into submission with the running attack. And with how well things have gone, there's no reason we can't add Ohio State to that list as well.
Sometimes, a guy has to choose between an education or an education with a lot of illegal perks. Putting USC on probation really worked...
How old are you?????
We'll be fine. It would be nice to land another elite skill player, but the depth we have is more than sufficient to do what we need to do. More room for d-lineman imo.
1. Running back is the most overrated position on the football field. RB success is determined much more by the O-line than most people realize, although the notoriously well-informed MGoBoard will not be surprised to hear that. See this Mathlete post from a couple years ago about the value of returning starters.
No position on the field came close to running backs in terms of lack of value for returning starts.
There was literally no correlation from returning starts from running backs to on field success. No improvements in running game or total offensive output.
2. This is not even close to a position of need for UM:
Isaac would have been an unnecessary luxury.
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This must be an important topic.
"why are we accepting a commit from Devon Smith when Ty is still out there?" were wrong. Because there are no guarantees. Imagine the rants if we had passed on Smith and he went someplace else because we were waiting on Isaac. You take the guys who you like who want to be here.
Mainly what I get from this is Roll Damn Tide's sources now officially suck.
Exactly! Always take the bird in hand. USC is, and has always been a magnet for 5* talent from around the nation -- even after their issues with the NCAA. Competing with the Trojans for an elite skill player seems to be a pretty futile endeavor, for ANY program in the country.
I am not saying that I could care less about Michigan missing out on Isaac, but I don't think it's worthy very much concern. The MOST important thing for Michigan going forward is make sure that Michigan is signing the lion's share of the top talent from MICHIGAN. I think what hurt Michigan more than anything over the last decade or so (along with the dried up Ohio pipeline) is the fact that MSU and other programs were getting the best that Michigan HS football had to offer.
Hoke & Co. are turning this issue around as well as re-opening the Ohio pipeline. If Isaac was from Michigan I would be more concerned. Everything is going to be fine. I am sure we'll be drooling over Issac in a few years as he shreds Pac-12 defenses, but them's the breaks.
i probably won't even remember the kid's name in a few years.
All this talk about running behind our awesome oline recruits is premature. Once we ESTABLISH that our oline is dominant, we will get elite rbs wanting to sign up. Until then it's all speculation. They will come, it's just gonna take 1 or 2 more recruiting cycles.
when a player flies 2500 miles from home for a second time and brings his mom, he will likely commit to that school.
I know there was once a time when he seemed like he may be in the bag (much like Levenberry) but I really can't believe how many people are this surprised by him not coming to Michigan.
It's all good. I hear we're a shoe in for bo scarborough.
You could be this guy-
Why doesn't he bite it as it enters his mouth?!?
...and then this happens-
Sorry for giving everyone nightmares.
concern isnt not going to M. its that they will be playing us alot in future years in the Rose bowl
guys need to chill out
this michigan ferfucksakes
rich rod left snake oil
When is one of these decisions going to go our way. Oh well, can't be that upset after reviewing our verbal commits thus far.
Best of luck Mr. Isaac.