grumbler

August 27th, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^

One of the possible justifications or the waiver is that the student is needed in the day-to-day care of the family member (hence the roughly-100-mile limit, as beyond that the student can't make it home every day without excessive commuting time).  It isn't surprising that the NCAA didn't buy the idea of the seven-plus-hour-a-day commute for Isaac.  I don't see any of the other rationales for a waiver fitting any better.  

Raoul

August 27th, 2014 at 12:59 PM ^

I'd view this as more of a clarification. I don't think Hoke had previously made it clear—at least in a press conference—that the initial waiver filing had been denied and they were in the process of appealing.

Here's some other news from the presser:

 

Tuebor

August 27th, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^

I know it is pretty far away but somebody is going to transfer either before spring or after.  IMO there is no way Smith, Green, and Isaac all stay for 2015. 

beevo

August 27th, 2014 at 12:59 PM ^

I've been wondering about this myself.  There just isn't much separation between them talent wise nor class wise.  In addition, they share the same skill set...unless Issac cotinues to separate himself as a more viable receiver out of the backfield.  We'll see what the year brings.  If Green does well.....we might see a movement from Smith. 

Wolverine 73

August 27th, 2014 at 1:17 PM ^

From all we have read, Nuss plans to use multiple backs.  If Green and Smith both get substantial carries, as seems likely, why would either transfer?  And why would Isaac transfer without playing a down?  Maybe after 2015 someone might, but I can't really see why any of them would transfer before seeing how that season unfolds.

alum96

August 27th, 2014 at 1:23 PM ^

Right now we have zero established RBs.  How about we wait for one of them to break out as a star and steal all the playing time away from the others, thus leading to a domino effect of lost playing time before we making such predictions.  People are making it out like we have Yeldon coming back for his JR season and no one believes they can crack the rotation.

And Bama has had 3 RBs at the same time all do very well.  Last point - if you have 4 backs and 1 transfers it is generally going to be the back that is going to help you the least so I never understand the angst about it. 

LSAClassOf2000

August 27th, 2014 at 1:56 PM ^

It sounds like the initial ruling came late last week - LINK

"The waiver got denied initially, and we've appealed it," Hoke confirmed Wednesday. "(We appealed) probably last week, mid week."

As I understand it, the rule is generally that the school must typically be within 100 miles of the student-athlete's home city for the waiver to pass muster. Typically. That being said, I don't really mind this - I think we might get an even better Ty Isaac if he has a year to develop outside of games. 

Mr. Yost

August 27th, 2014 at 8:20 PM ^

I think this is old news...

I'm bolding because I know this is a hot button topic for many.

Coach Hoke said a presser or two (or three) ago that they were appealing the decision. So the decision had already been passed down at that time.

We just all missed it because we haven't heard the outcome of the appeal.

That said, I don't think there is any new news or update on his status from yesterday to today.

He was denied yesterday, he is still denied today. He could've been denied a month ago. What we're waiting on is the outcome of the appeal. Who knows when they've filed it.

Crime Reporter

August 27th, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^

Ugh. If that is the best they could come up with for Saturday we are fucked. The OL is going to screw up what could be a memorable season. Glad I'm working Saturday.

Mr. Yost

August 27th, 2014 at 8:22 PM ^

STFU and GTFO...this team isn't even 1-AA good. The team that beat us got votes in the Top 25 of D1, they had NFL players and were 1-AA national championship calibur.

Calm the fuck down...it's one game.

And I'm not being hypocritical telling you to calm down when I'm cursing...your post was just that annoying and warranted it.

ShruteBeetFarms

August 27th, 2014 at 1:12 PM ^

I wouldn't mind if Ty redshirted. Green and Smith can carry the load if the O-line comes together. If the O-line is swiss cheese then what good is having three superstar backs splitting carries all season?

Hannibal.

August 27th, 2014 at 1:12 PM ^

I wish that we could have him this year, now that we've got Weber in the fold for 2015 and we need an immediate upgrade in performance out of that position.

The NCAA absolutely had to deny this.  If you let Isaac get his hardship waiver, then it would open up yet another loophole for unscrupulous coaches to exploit.  Even with this decision, I'll bet that coaches are going to start exploiting it.  If there are any under the radar home state kids that programs like LSU or Alabama miss that go out of state and blow up, Miles or Saban can get on the phone and recruit them back home without them losing any eligibility.

grumbler

August 27th, 2014 at 2:22 PM ^

He'd be like any other redshirt.  Redshirts get scholarships.

Most kids don't get hosed at all.  Just football, basketball, and (I believe) hockey players sit a year after a transfer (barring harship exemption), because those are the players that generally are academically weakest.

If anyone gets hosed by the transfer rules, it is the school/team they are transferring to.  The school gives a scholarship but doesn't get the player for a year.

maize-blue

August 27th, 2014 at 1:37 PM ^

So in 2015 Green/Smith will be Juniors and Isaac will be a RS Sophmore?

I’m ok with this. This decision effectively gives UM a RB for the 2014 class. Green and Smith are more than capable of carrying the load in 2014.

True Blue Grit

August 27th, 2014 at 2:33 PM ^

to redshirt.  He needs to get his hamstring problems behind him.  He also really needs to put on 10-15 pounds of muscle.  And with the WR position being one of our deepest right now, it shouldn't impact the team at all.  So, next year, the WR corps will be really incredible, even if Funchess goes to the NFL.