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Ty Isaac commits, but questions remain
You missed the /s....I hope
Yup lol and when it was too late to edit I knew I was gonna get negged bad :(
We may want to pump the breaks on this for now. Wonderful news if true but after reading the linked article I didn't get the impression this was completely solid information yet. More speculation than facts IMO.
Butt healing well. Looking like he may be ready for Big Ten schedule.
Can we coast and not pump the brakes?
Maybe we can kick, push, kick, push, cooaaasssttt?
Back when Lupe's music was good and he didn't look like Whoopi Goldberg.
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Remember when you hit that pedestrian wth your car at the crosswalk and then just drove away? Pepperidge Farm remembers, but Pepperidge Farm ain't just gonna keep it to Pepperidge Farm's self free of charge. Maybe you go out and buy yourself some of these distinctive Milano cookies, maybe this whole thing disappears.
And he didn't try to be a radical political nutjob.
Food and Liquor/The Cool>>>!!
When I read "Butt healing well" I initially thought Isaac had a butt injury. And then all the Butt/Tight End jokes came flooding back into my memory and I giggled immaturely.
When I hear the phrase "butt healing well" I think of the big black prostitute from Bad Santa. Not sure why, but apparently her character struck a chord with me.
Oprah. To paraphrase: "Uh-uh, Willie. F&%@ you and yo kinky ass. Last time I didn't shit right for a month."
This is good news if it turns out true, but I hope it doesn't mean Michigan has no shot at D. Harris or Weber.
If he's not eligible until 2015, I bet that scares off Harris and Weber, because now you're going to have real trouble cracking the depth chart as a freshman, and you're going to be competing with someone of similar pedigree who's two years older than you for three years. The staff may also decide he's their 2015 back, since he takes up a scholly, and those are limited.
If he's eligible in 2014, I don't think it will have as much impact, because then you'll have 4 juniors in 2015 (including Drake Johnson) and no one younger.
Every 5* star thinks he has what it takes to start as a freshman. Competitors look forward to the competition. Plus, it's not just football at Michigan - kids come here looking for a degree to use in life after football.
tactics and saying recruits shouldn't go to Michigan because Michigan is stacked and they will struggle for playing time.
hes a great recruiter, hes relentless and hell do whatever it takes. al davis kind of guy - just win baby, ends justify means, just win
I doubt it scares off either but I think it makes it more likely we might only take one back in the class providing issac gets the shirt. Both have said they are not afraid of competition (which most say) They also know Nuss runs two backs. Also they should consider the line will be packed with veteran players when they hit the field.
who knows... maybe it HELPS land Harris... knowing theyre taking two rbs and that Isaac is a good one and played at USC a year. If Harris is all that and is smart, he'll know that it'd help his career, playing with another stud, and pushing him to get better with great competition...and moreso, less tread on the tires for the NFL... but regarding Weber, I think not, as he seems to be playing the game of where the most playing time is for him.
...speed and huge size...he had 87 yards on 11 carries and 2 TD's in less than a half against Cal. The only reason he didn't play more was because USC has a stable of running backs. I find it silly when people would rather have a high school kid that hasn't even played a senior year of high school football over a kid that has a year in the weight room and field (at US f-ing C). This kid is going to be a great back somewhere...hopefully at UM...see Magnus' write up.
I think Isaac will be a great running back and I really hope he ends up at Michigan, but a blind turtle could have rushed for 87 yards against Cal's defense last year.
Turtle, probably. Us, though?!
The Blinder's Off the Turtle!
Are on to something.
Is this because we don't have the cap space for Reggie Bush?
I guess I was making too many sorta connections into one that didn't fit easily.
People comlaining we lose recruits to money+SEC bag men+Reggie Bush RB that took money+went to USC+salary cap bc's he's in NFL and we don't pay recruits(or our heads are in sand to it).
This was a knock on USC/Reggie Bush and the SEC, not on Ty Isaac whom I'm very glad we got.
I don't want to say "who cares" about those guys because I really like both of them, but one of them decommitted and the other has taken us out of his top 3. I think we are in VERY good shape and have the option to focus our needs elsewhere, if needed.
A broken clock is right twice a day. Welcome aboard TI.
Can we still sway Laquon Treadwell? I was excited about that duo two years ago.
Oh me so haaappy, oh-oh, me so haaaappy.
Nice pick up Brady Hoke and the Michigan men. As much as I would like to see him play it may be better if he shirts considering how this year RB targets are trending. This is very good.
I feel nothing until there's a "Hello:" in front of the topic.
I'm cautiously dancing right now.
If it's true, then it's one of the biggest pickups since at least last August. Erik Swenson was big too starting off 2016.
It would suck to lose Damien Harris but you're basically replacing him with another 5 star RB who had 5 yards per carry at USC.
And there has been NO indication that he's returning to the class. There hasn't been that he's not. But it's not like we could've counted him, in fact, most people moved him to OSU after this weekend.
Rather have a nicely stocked, GOOD OL, Derrick Green and Ty Isaac over any RB in 2015.
Did I forget to mention De'Veon changed back to #4. #32 is open for T.I. if he wants it (HS number)?
I'd rather have a more evenly distributed level of talent per class. Assuming we get Ty Isaac, and D. Harris doesn't commit b/c of it, and we instead get a less talented RB, then we'll have a bigger drop off in talent when Isaac, Smith and Green leave. Now I'm not saying I don't want Isaac, but there is such a thing as too much of a good thing.
Why? What happened?
Have you even watched this team run the football the past few years? I wouldn't say any of it has been "good"!
I see, so you're saying the problem was the running backs and not the blocking, play calling or coaching? So Ty Isaac is going to come in and average at least 5.5 YPC like he did last year?
Priorities, good sir.
We'd all prefer "a more evenly distributed level of talent per class." Let's worry first about putting together a running game that gains yards. Isaac would help in this regard.
So as I just replied earlier, you believe Ty Isaac is the answer to our running game? Not the blocking, coaching, or play calling?
Scenario 1: Issac gets his waiver. We have 3-4 top level backs to help us win now. We win 9-10 games, program momentum turns around. Harris or Weber signs on because those guys will be juniors, pro ready tend to leave early, and there's still no '14 running back to play behind an O-Line with a ton of young talent in a Nuss offense that's proven it can feed multiple backs.
Scenario 2: Isaac doesn't get the waiver. Our talent is spread, as you wished. We don't get Harris or Weber, but there's always talent in the next class. Those guys aren't the end of running backs. Bird in hand vs two in the bush.
Scenario 3: It's scenario 2 combined with scenario 1. Talent is distributed, and Harris signs on because he's not scared of a depth chart and this is where he wants to be. He'll save his legs, develop his talent, and blow up as a junior.
Ty Issac is absolutely a good pickup, regardless of the Harris or Weber fallout. We need to win ASAP and only current Michigan players can make that happen.
Where do I begin...
Scenario 1: So you are convinced Ty Isaac is/was the missing piece in our running game? Please confirm this, because this sounds like what a lot of people believe to be the case. Additionally, you seem to believe a Nuss offense automatically means a running game that can be successful enough to "feed" multiple running backs.
Scenario 2: Not getting Harris or Weber is not/was not the spreading of talent that I spoke of.
"Bird in hand vs two in the bush."
So if we can get the top 4 QBs in each class, should we sign them all? No, we shouldn't which is what I meant by too much of a good thing...
Scenario 3: Great, we get Isaac, Harris and/or Weber.
"Ty Issac is absolutely a good pickup, regardless of the Harris or Weber fallout."
I still disagree with this. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I believe in our current group of running backs. I believe that our OL will get better and open more holes, and I believe Nuss will call a better game and the offense will be much better. And I believe that will happen with or without Isaac. So once again, I want Isaac, but I'd rather have Harris or Weber. And yes, all three would be great.
Thats another peeve of mine, of the current state of the program... stop changing uniform numbers...
Smith has been, and I think will be better than Green.
The NCAA is such a joke I could see then granting a waiver
In the joke that is the NCAA, the students are usually the punchline.
He has to get NCAA approval for this. I wouldn't be dancing just yet. Does anyone know how the hardship waiver process works?
The waiver just means hr plays w/o sitting out a year (right)? He could come either way.
If he sits out a year, it just counts as his redshirt and he still has three years of eligibility. The NCAA waiver process is only as important as not sitting out a year is to him. This could be very important, even critical, or it could be something he has accepted as worth doing to go to Michigan.
I've always needed a copy of “NCAA Eligibility Rules for Dummies,” so just to clear this up:
- Isaac used one year of eligibility in 2013.
- If he gets the waiver, he's eligible in 2014, and for two years after that.
- If he doesn't get the waiver, he has to sit out in 2014.
- His redshirt can then be used to cover 2014, and he'll be eligible as a RS sophomore in 2015, and for two years after that.
Have I got it?
My wife is a senior manager at Wiley Publishing (they make the "...for dummies" books here in Indy). Sweet that you referenced them.
Wiley ... reference ... I see what you did there.
I worked in rights acquisition/administration at Cengage Learning for a few years, and also as an editor at a tiny Detroit magazine for several years before that. So consider it a professional courtesy. (Besides, I've always found the Dummies books to be quite helpful.)
Good peeps over there
He only needs the approval to be able to play this year not transfer, Northwestern was the only real option within the 100 mile radius and he didn't want to go there. I think he comes here and is willing to take the redshirt year if it comes down to it.
Go get your coffee, Coach Hoke.
2nd place is a set of steak knifes
Ask Al Borges.
Was told anything can happen and process not done but Isaac has given UM strong indications he'll end up there.
"strong indications" not exactly "commits."
Not exactly Debbie Downer, but maybe Cautious Connie.
I get that, but he said committed in the original article. How do you give just "strong indications" and commit at the same time?
I don't know what's going on :/
Cautious Connie mode engaged.
I'm guessing it has to do with the outcome of his waiver.
I do enjoy having 5* RBs, but it's not like we've been missing RB talent lately, we've been missing people who can block for them. I'd be totally comfortable with Deveon or Green being the feature back the next 3 years. Isaac is great, but any of the 3 would be just fine behind a good OL
Yup. Bo should have followed up his "team" speech/motto with one that said "The Line, The Line, The Line"
The line is certainly the single biggest concern for at least 2014 and probably 2015 unless they do something very impressive this year. However, the addition of a 5* recruit is always huge in my book, especially considering that what is likely his weakest season is already out of the way. The waiver is going to be interesting to follow, but even if he has to sit out a year, you basically added a 5* recruit for the 2015 class. Sure, he only has 3 years of eligibility, but he would have 2 years under our belt and would certainly at least help the scout team. Not saying you disagree, but I think this could be huge down the line.
He would have to sit out a year correct? I wonder what this will mean for Green and Smith in regards to playing time when Isaac is able to play.
cant take it serious until I see something on the main page but if true...this is monster pick up. For people who are worried about too many solid RBs and playing time for these kids...competition makes everyone better (a la Alaama), step up your game and you will play...with this stable of running backs, they will have to bring their A game every day on the field and in the classroom.
I hope this is true
Does your momma do things a la Alaama (yta)?
It was the beer talking, I promise officer
Not the grammar police. I realize that it was a simple typo, but thought it made an interesting rhythmic sound pattern. So, I tried to have some fun with it.
So there actually is a chance he can play next fall for us? So confused. I guess the NCAA can do what they want.
Exactly what they're asking at the INDY HQ...
So this means that he ends up at Michigan State, Ohio State, or Notre Same right? Isn't that how Michigan 'locks' work? (juuuuuuuuuust kidding)
I think that would win name of the year.
I wish I could give you more points for that response.
Loved him in Game of Thrones.
Olleh, Sagraf Nitsuj! Emoclew ot Nagihcim!
I think that guy played for BYU or UCLA.
If we somehow have a terrible running game this year again then I give up all hope forever.
*IF* he comes to Ann Arbor, I would actually prefer that he redshirts a year.
he wants Isaac to redshirt a year still to create a year gap between him and Green/Smith. It's fairly obvious?
No way this guy redshirts voluntarily. For Hoke it has to be all hands on deck this year. Also, if he's as good as advetised he could be in the NFL in two years.
The crazy thing is Ty going to USC got us Derrick Green and somehow we still may end up with both. Don't think that would have happened if Ty committed to us initially.
That was the plan all along.
Say he does come AND gets the waiver to play this year.
If Michigan had even a 2012 OL.....
All of this rides on the OL. But if they somehow pull it together enough....look out.
T.I., Derrick and De'Veon could be reminiscent of 1992 with Wheatley, Powers and Johnson.
I'm not saying but I'm saying.
Has to run behind this disaster of an offensive line...yeah I know, neg away
Sorry, I won't give you the satisfaction.
If it's the truth
But 99% of blog clearly watched a different offensive line than I did. Good for them, it didn't make them want to rip their eyes out.
Obviously you are first person to notice that are our line was terrible last year. Not sure I've ever heard anyone mention that before.
It's better for both parties. Isaac gets to be closer to home and we add another stud RB.
I would kiss you on the lips if you were here. Since you're not, I'll go celebrate by feeling up the wife...
Please change the title, I got excited for no reason!!!!
how's Drake Johnson doing? felt bad for the kid, the more the merrier in the backfield.
btw I think he is just making sure he can even commit before deciding, I'm not jumping the gun here.
Well I hope he actually commits. This is partly why I hate the twitter. Anyone can tweet about "sources".
Old man cliches about carts and horses, counting chickens, and birds in the bush.
Regarding his mother's condition, wouldn't it be better if he sat out a year? I assume that it would be easier for him to visit home more often this next year if he's on the scout team than it would be if he's on the active roster...
Landscape architecture skillz
commits come in pairs
How... err okay.
Better late then never
... The fuck?!
Clearly it's Bill Cosby with a hot dog that has Ty Isaac's head on it.....
There was a tweet or two out there that seemed to indicate that with might know for certain one way or the other in the next couple days, so I assume that if that is the case, then this might be a reference to making sure the administrative end of it is in order. If Isaac does somehow end up in Ann Arbor, then I will say that I like where the RB spot is at just that much more given the options then available.
I'm not sure many realize the freakish athlete TI really is. He is bigger and faster than either D. Harris or Weber. Kid is huge and elusive with great hands, you just don't see guys this big with breakaway speed. That's why he was a consensus 5 star recruit. If this materializes, we should be ecstatic.
Great news, but the title should change pending the Hello post.
Says Michigan fans should be optimistic, but that nothing definitive has happened yet, according to the Isaac family.
I was listening earlier and Webb addressed this at about 7:00, which posted in the other thread.
When he spoke about it earlier, he was pretty clear this morning that this is happening. He was intentionally vague (while also intending to make it easy to read between the lines), but apparently Isaac made the decision yesterday and seemingly committed (which I interpret as signing something), though he hadn't told his parents. He wanted to tell both his mom and dad - who was working late - before it went public. Sam kept saying "he wanted to tell them about what he was going to do, or had already done". He made a point to continually repeat the latter, and said follow the bouncing ball.
Maybe he's backed off that a little bit, maybe he actually did get a text from mom or dad this morning.
Sam Webb on today's recruiting roundup said he had a "strong feeling in his gut" that Isaac will pick Michigan. It sounds like he's expecting an official announcement sometime today. He said that Michigan fans should be optimistic.
I feel a lot better about losing Justin fargas to usc now...
Sam on the recruiting roundup says we'll know more about the Isaac situation but his "gut feeling" was that he'll end up at Michigan later today.
Heard we might use Isaac at WR too. Has great hands and size: 6-2 220. Any truth to it?
Reflex is that Issac might deter Harris or Weber. We didn't take a 14 back. And top level guys, especially running backs, shouldn't be intimidated by positional depth. It's going to exist everywhere. Wisconsin has loads, OSU picks up quality backs every year. MSU got a good one last year.
Coaches are selling depth as a way to stay fresh, and Nuss can prove it with his Bama guys. I'd love to have Harris and/or Weber. But I'll take a 5 star in hand vs two long recruitments in the bush.
Is better than Harris and Weber so it's no problem.
BREAKING NEWS. SAM WEBB HAS A GUT AND IT'S FEELING BLUE.
A lot of things happen when I'm asleep. I should sleep more often...
One good bit of news: admissions is really tough on transfers to Michigan because they don't respect the coursework of other schools, but if there's a short list of schools that shouldn't be a problem with, USC is one of them.
Of course, I couldn't get them to transfer credits from the friggin Harvard of the Francophone world (Paris IV, La Sorbonne) so...
Can he pick up the blitz???
The title of the OP is like the end of a lot of modern day sequal that refuse to stand on their own and instead need to be split into two movies to make more money (even though it's really only one movie and only should be one movie; also note that this isn't a criticism of the OP, just an observation).
It's like, we had the first movie - "Isaac Goes to Southern California". Then we get the sequel "Ty Isaac Commits... But Questions Remain" and we are all now leaving the theater on the edge of our seat waiting for the third and final movie of the trilogy to come out. Here's to hoping we aren't disappointed with part 3.
Real question, would it be better for the program if he doesn't get a waiver, and in turn is a year behind Green and Smith?
If one isn't getting enough playing time they may transfer before but it wouldn't be surprising to have someone play well and leave early for the NFL. We are talking 3 very good backs with a pretty experienced line in 2015.
Who knows what the future will bring but you take good players when you can get them and deal with the problems it causes.
I like this news. That is all. Carry on.
this news, and no one can take that away from me. Cheers