WOW! Tee Shepard gone? Wasn't he the gem of that class?
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He was definitely up there in their 2012 class. That is going to hurt them pretty badly. All I can do is laugh.
No, the REAL gem of the class is Deontay Greenberry!
Wait a minute...
Wait a minute.......
You guys are mean...but funny.
No, No. It was Taylor Decker.
We have a problem...
Got a good laugh out of this. ND, whose CBs' greatest weakness is defending the armpunt, picks up two stud CBs in its recruiting class and loses both before the start of spring practice. Couldn't dream this one up any better.
And it feels great hearing him lament about ND's secondary. 2012 will be a fun season.
They only have four scholarship CBs on the roster. It could get very ugly.
Honestly, I have trouble figuring out how Brian Kelly gets kids to committ in the first place, let alone stay on once they arrive. The guy is a class A jerk who gets off on making fools of 18-20 year olds on national TV. Hopefully this trend continues for ND.
On an aside...I remember when BK first got hired many people were fearful of what he could do with the talent ND is capable of bringng in and combining it with his spread offense. It is very similar to what we all thought with RR and what OSU is singing about Meyer. I hope the OSU thing works out about as well as our experiment did (no offense to RR as I was one of his biggest supporters, but it clearly didn't work).
Kelly got everyone he needed at GVSU, CMU, and Cincy. I am guessing that, in the living rooms of recruits, Kelly comes off a lot better than his viral, "worst of" videos and pics make him appear.
I have to wonder if he relates better to kids who can't get into ND than those who can. It would explain a lot.
One of my ND friends who hates Kelly said, "UM cant get them all, and BK and Meyer will get some guys." I thought it was a sarcastic remark until now.
Well, in his previous stops, BK was simply the best, or close to the best, coach at his level. CMU and UC really didn't recruit better players than the rest of their leagues, he was just better than most MAC and Big East coaches.
Now he's in the big leagues, and no one cares about his .500 batting average in triple A. Now we have to see if BK can actually recruit against the Hokes and Meyers and Kiffins of the world, and if not, if he can win with a talent disadvantage. My guess is no on both counts, but we'll have to see.
is that GVSU and CMU recruits, and even Cincinnati recruits, probably weren't watching those teams every Saturday when better games were on elsewhere, and highlights weren't prominently placed on Sportcenter.
Now his game day rants are playing on the televisions of the living rooms of recruits. He's got a lot more of himself to overcome when he visits.
I went to GV and when he was the coach there he didn't really have a reason to have his face turn purple. They were extremely dominate and all of the top recruits without major D1 offers went there. When Lloyd Carr was retiring, I was actually really hoping we would hire Kelly. I sure am glad that we didn't now.
BK is much more similar to RR than to Urbs. Like RR, BK had a lot of success in the Big East (and lower levels) but with lower talent, so it's still up in the air how well he can do at the highest level, and if he can get the highest talent.
Urban has coaches at the highest level, recruited the top talent, and won national championships. The only question is can he do it again (or without Tebow).
As much as I hope Meyer fails, the comparisons to Rich Rod are way off base. Rich Rod achieved a decent amount of success in the Big East. Meyer was wildly successful in the SEC. The similarities between the two are superficial at best.
But BK = RR seems pretty accurate.
One has trouble managing a staff.
The other can't manage himself.
man a couple years ago who had some buds who played for Kelly at Grand Valley and it was pretty consistent among the players that they thought Kelly was a total asshole and could not put a sentence together without using the "F" word.
Looks like the collar is getting a little tight in SB-what a clusterfk.
successfully recruited for decades while openly acting like the world's biggest ass. Some people mistake that behavior for just being intense or "demanding" and think the coach will get the best out of their kids that way. Personally I wouldn't want my kids playing for someone like that, but obviously a lot of people have no problem with it.
Tom Zbikowski boxes.
I cannot tell you how many times I've heard this in the last week. The Bears need safety help, Zbikowski played at ND, the Chicago people cannot stop yabbering on. Did you know during the lockout he boxed?!?!
I hate ND...
Is there any reasoning why Shepard left before spring practice started?
Because ND sucks?
Because Brian Kelly yelled at him for five minutes after he told him he was home sick.
Did we ever offer him? It'd be nice to see Terry Richardson get some company at the corner position.
Not a single Big Ten offer on his sheet... he's a California boy with offers almost exclusively from west of the Mississippi, with the exception of ND, Auburn, Alabama, Miami.
Edit: vv Magnus would know better than I. I was just basing my answer on information available on all the major recruiting websites (rivals/scout/espn/247), none of which list Michigan as an interest or an offer. Apparently those sites are incomplete(?).
Yes, we offered Shepard.
They Lost Ronald Darby & Tee Shepard, so much for their sick secondary recruiting class.
They Lost Ronald Darby & Tee Shepard, so much for their sick secondary recruiting class.
To Hell with Notre Dame.
When are Shumate, Day, and Kiel transferring?
Wow. How often do you see an early enrollee split before spring practice even starts? It does make you wonder what happened. The other three DBs in that class for ND are all listed as safeties. Hope Denard is working on his deep pass.
Man, that makes their class 16 kids, including a long snapper. That's rough.
Sam Webb said on the radio today that UM cancelled the Onwuala visit. So if he reconsiders, he should go see Jerry Kill.
Interesting, we must feel pretty good about another WR who maybe ready to commit.
our shared appreciation of Ted Theodre Logan.
Strange things are afoot at the circle-k!
The Tee Shepard thing illustrates why I don't like the EE option for long distance recruits. It's much easier to get homesick when it's winter (especially in IN/MI for warmer weather recruits) and you've only got a few guys in your class to lean on and share the OMG COLLEGE exuberance with.
Im not against it, but I agree that it's a tougher transition. When you come in over the summer, you have a few weeks to acclimate with the campus, meet a bunch of guys (many of whom are frosh) and get settled before classes start. An EE gets thrown right in with a bunch of people who are already used to college. I'm sure the distance thing plays a factor as well, in addition to the weather.
Of course, the weather hasn't really been a big deal this year.
Will the Carlisle transfer from SC to ND affect Isaac? Will it deter him from going to ND? Carlisle was previously 4* #4 ranked RB and got early PT at USC. I wonder if Isaac will worry that he would not get early PT at ND with Carlisle there. On the other hand, does Carlisle's departure from SC open up opportunities for Isaac there? Hopefully not. I would guess that his departure from SC is old news and that they are already pretty full at RB.
The news is that he doesn't have to sit out in 2012. I doubt it means much at all for Isaac.
If you're going to USC as a running back and are worried about the depth chart, you unfortunately picked the wrong school.
like no one at running back. Probably not an easier place for a freshman to break into the rotation, among elite schools.
Agreed. Their days of having tons of elite RBs is over, for now. In their 2012 class, they took a FB and no running backs. In 2011, the only RB they took was Amir Carlisle. In 2010, their top RB was Dillon Baxter who is also gone. DJ Morgan is also there, but will be a junior this fall, meaning he'll be a senior when Isaac is a frosh.
Not only that, but with their scholarship reductions, I doubt they take a second RB in this class if they get a guy like Isaac. He'd have almost no one to compete with for most of his career.
ND is tanking. Let go people!
Nice. Haven't seen this one yet. Kelly's blood pressure medication not as effective as he thought.
1. They suck
2. They are irrelevant.
Oh wait......that's been the case for over 20 years now. Silly me.
Unfortunately, only the first one is true. If the second were true, we wouldn't have two threads about them on the board today. When Minnesota loses a recruit, we don't start a thread about it.
They do enhance a conversation about college football and also play the part of the foil well for the first night game in the Big House.
is about as logical as when MSU called us irrelevant. When you're bad, you're irrelevant in the national/BCS picture, but people still always talk about you. Heck, when MSU was good and we were bad, we were still more relevant than them
But yes, Notre Dame sucks
That BK hired Rudy as the new DB coach
Midterms came in two days ago. Apparently he didn't do so well. Wish we had the standards of you guys. His Grandmother died within the last few days to so that also added to it.