Two ND updates

Submitted by ish on

1. Tee Shepard, a 4 star 2012 corner and top 100 player, who I believe enrolled early, has left ND; and

2. NCAA has granted Amir Carlisle's, a RB transfer from USC, request to play the 2012 season.

denardogasm

March 15th, 2012 at 1:02 PM ^

Got a good laugh out of this.  ND, whose CBs' greatest weakness is defending the armpunt, picks up two stud CBs in its recruiting class and loses both before the start of spring practice.  Couldn't dream this one up any better.

Blue in Yarmouth

March 15th, 2012 at 1:08 PM ^

Honestly, I have trouble figuring out how Brian Kelly gets kids to committ in the first place, let alone stay on once they arrive. The guy is a class A jerk who gets off on making fools of 18-20 year olds on national TV. Hopefully this trend continues for ND. 

On an aside...I remember when BK first got hired many people were fearful of what he could do with the talent ND is capable of bringng in and combining it with his spread offense. It is very similar to what we all thought with RR and what OSU is singing about Meyer. I hope the OSU thing works out about as well as our experiment did (no offense to RR as I was one of his biggest supporters, but it clearly didn't work).

Tater

March 15th, 2012 at 1:19 PM ^

Kelly got everyone he needed at GVSU, CMU, and Cincy.  I am guessing that, in the living rooms of recruits, Kelly comes off a lot better than his viral, "worst of" videos and pics make him appear.  

I have to wonder if he relates better to kids who can't get into ND than those who can.  It would explain a lot.  

WolvinLA2

March 15th, 2012 at 1:40 PM ^

Well, in his previous stops, BK was simply the best, or close to the best, coach at his level. CMU and UC really didn't recruit better players than the rest of their leagues, he was just better than most MAC and Big East coaches. Now he's in the big leagues, and no one cares about his .500 batting average in triple A. Now we have to see if BK can actually recruit against the Hokes and Meyers and Kiffins of the world, and if not, if he can win with a talent disadvantage. My guess is no on both counts, but we'll have to see.

Yeoman

March 15th, 2012 at 2:52 PM ^

is that GVSU and CMU recruits, and even Cincinnati recruits, probably weren't watching those teams every Saturday when better games were on elsewhere, and highlights weren't prominently placed on Sportcenter.

Now his game day rants are playing on the televisions of the living rooms of recruits. He's got a lot more of himself to overcome when he visits.

robbyt003

March 15th, 2012 at 3:30 PM ^

I went to GV and when he was the coach there he didn't really have a reason to have his face turn purple.  They were extremely dominate and all of the top recruits without major D1 offers went there.  When Lloyd Carr was retiring, I was actually really hoping we would hire Kelly.  I sure am glad that we didn't now.  

WolvinLA2

March 15th, 2012 at 1:36 PM ^

BK is much more similar to RR than to Urbs. Like RR, BK had a lot of success in the Big East (and lower levels) but with lower talent, so it's still up in the air how well he can do at the highest level, and if he can get the highest talent. Urban has coaches at the highest level, recruited the top talent, and won national championships. The only question is can he do it again (or without Tebow).

BluByYou

March 15th, 2012 at 2:29 PM ^

man a couple years ago who had some buds who played for Kelly at Grand Valley and it was pretty consistent among the players that they thought Kelly was a total asshole and could not put a sentence together without using the "F" word. 

Looks like the collar is getting a little tight in SB-what a clusterfk.

93Grad

March 15th, 2012 at 10:31 PM ^

successfully recruited for decades while openly acting like the world's biggest ass.  Some people mistake that behavior for just being intense or "demanding" and think the coach will get the best out of their kids that way.  Personally I wouldn't want my kids playing for someone like that, but obviously a lot of people have no problem with it.

JeepinBen

March 15th, 2012 at 1:20 PM ^

I cannot tell you how many times I've heard this in the last week. The Bears need safety help, Zbikowski played at ND, the Chicago people cannot stop yabbering on. Did you know during the lockout he boxed?!?!

I hate ND...

RakeFight

March 15th, 2012 at 3:18 PM ^

Not a single Big Ten offer on his sheet... he's a California boy with offers almost exclusively from west of the Mississippi, with the exception of ND, Auburn, Alabama, Miami.

 

Edit: vv Magnus would know better than I.  I was just basing my answer on information available on all the major recruiting websites (rivals/scout/espn/247), none of which list Michigan as an interest or an offer.  Apparently those sites are incomplete(?).

RakeFight

March 15th, 2012 at 1:38 PM ^

Wow.  How often do you see an early enrollee split before spring practice even starts?  It does make you wonder what happened.  The other three DBs in that class for ND are all listed as safeties.  Hope Denard is working on his deep pass.

mejunglechop

March 15th, 2012 at 2:06 PM ^

The Tee Shepard thing illustrates why I don't like the EE option for long distance recruits. It's much easier to get homesick when it's winter (especially in IN/MI for warmer weather recruits) and you've only got a few guys in your class to lean on and share the OMG COLLEGE exuberance with.

WolvinLA2

March 15th, 2012 at 2:12 PM ^

Im not against it, but I agree that it's a tougher transition. When you come in over the summer, you have a few weeks to acclimate with the campus, meet a bunch of guys (many of whom are frosh) and get settled before classes start. An EE gets thrown right in with a bunch of people who are already used to college. I'm sure the distance thing plays a factor as well, in addition to the weather.