Twitter ban? Yes or no.
Put yourself in the position of Brady Hoke. Do you impose a Twitter ban? Yes or no.
I say, "Yes." Just as with "Nothing good ever happens when you are out after 1 am," nothing good ever happens on Twitter. At least, nothing good for Michigan football players ever happens on Twitter.
This comes up because, according to Reid Fragel (Grosse Pointe South/Ohio State University), in what must surely be his last Tweet until he is drafted as a tackle in the fourth round by the Lions, he says that Coach Meyer will be imposing a Twitter ban:
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:45 PM ^
Twitter ban? Who cares.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:47 PM ^
I would ban all tweets related to the football team/program. You can talk about other stuff (what you had for dinner last night) but nothing that has to do with your team.
Twitter pretty much brought down the UNC program because of tweets regarding trips to Florida (where agents were involved). Less talk is better.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 PM ^
Or maybe you could allow kids to be kids, but just work with them so they understand how to tweet responsibly. Tweeting is a life skill that is needed and plenty of athletes hurt their career by saying stupid things via social media or the media. So why not use twitter as a teachable moment? It's just have to be a ban everything or let everything go decision.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:52 PM ^
Call me an old geezer, but "Tweeting is a life skill that is needed"?! I can see kids in Home Economics right now learning to cook, sew, balance a checkbook, and . . . Tweet. If a Twitter ban were a deal breaker for a recruit, I would not personally lose any sleep if they went to another school. I love MGoBlog but if the Internetz went kablooey my life would go on just fine.
January 3rd, 2012 at 2:22 PM ^
and given my age, that can't be a good thing. These social network thingies are not going away. No internet? No MGoBlog? Get the hell off my lawn!
January 3rd, 2012 at 2:39 PM ^
I think you just one-upped my geezerness by using the phrase social network thingies! I know they aren't going away. I finally joined Facebook myself and I think I'm up to like 20 friends. That's pretty good isn't it ; )?
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 PM ^
OTOH, if you're not breaking the rules, what is there to worry about?
(I know, there's always the chance a kid could stick his foot down his mouth, but UNC isn't really a great example of the dangers of Twitter. that's just an example of the dangers of violating NCAA rules.)
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:50 PM ^
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:51 PM ^
We don't have to worry about our athletes making fools of themselves on a national stage.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 PM ^
...I would have a talk with the team about it. I would say, among other things, that I would ban Twitter for the whole team if even one guy becomes a problem.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 PM ^
Id like Shane Morris to keep recruiting via tweet once he's here. I don't actually have a twitters or twittagra or whatever it is called... But I do enjoy the posts here from his tweetosphere stream.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:58 PM ^
I believe that one communicates with a Twitter - or "twits" - by use of a Twit-o-Gyrus, which looks something like a theremin.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:53 PM ^
I have a hard time saying that they cant have but Twitter does have this nifty feature where your account is private so I would say yes, they can have it but you better have it set to private and only friends/family can follow you---ie not internet stalkers and opposing fans because your correct nothing good happens after 1AM.
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 PM ^
I'm all for not telling anyone what to do with their time/life.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:17 PM ^
So the guys on the team can just do anything they want? Maybe practice should be optional?? I am not sure tweeting is an unalienable right...
Rules are imposed for a reason, and if that reason is to protect the team/Michigan than I am OK with their "freedom" to tweet being restricted. I would trust the coaches to make the right call.
January 3rd, 2012 at 2:20 PM ^
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:57 PM ^
Definite twitter ban. I've even banned myself and I'm not an athlete.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:08 PM ^
Dubs Get
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:57 PM ^
Restrictions? Yes. Ban? No.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 PM ^
Agree with restrictions. How is Twitter a "life skill" or am I missing sarcasm?
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:03 PM ^
Let me guess, you aren't a teenager.
January 3rd, 2012 at 2:38 PM ^
Teenagers tend to have really, really screwed up ideas of what "life skills" are.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 PM ^
No, just teach them not to be dumbasses. When one inevitably messes up, use it as a lesson. Hiding dumbassery doesn't make it go away, even though OSU used that strategy fairly successfully the past 8 years.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:01 PM ^
Let 'em tweet. I don't understand the fascination many have with following the players' tweets as there rarely is anything of substance, but I don't see the big deal with letting them do it.
I'd also point out that Urban Meyer is in a different situation and needs to somehow try to limit his players' contact with those outside the program.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:03 PM ^
totally unenforceable, unless you're going make kids run stairs over it. It's like alcohol, you're not gonna keep 100+ kids from having a beer, but you want to educated them and make sure they never get a d.u.i.
I'd probably have a few meetings at the start of the year, and maybe even mention during the recruiting process about what you should and shouldn't be posting to twitter/facebook/(mgoblog) because there are legitimately good ways for these things to be used, but you want to fill their heads with horror stories and cautionary tales so that they don't go and do something stupid.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:35 PM ^
I'm sure they could work something out with their IT department to block access to Twitter, no?
January 3rd, 2012 at 3:16 PM ^
if they have smartphones and use their personal email accounts to set up the twitter accounts, it is never going through any IT-controlled machines. Given twitter's origins with text messaging, you could actually manage most of your account using simple SMS texting, although the commands are a bit arcane and you wouldn't be able to attach/see pictures or shorten URL's, etc.
I can see Urban' point, especially with the history of stupid tweets out of Columbus, including whiny ones from Carlos Hyde when a TatFiver took away his playing time and Pryor's idiocy. But not sure about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Like it or not, this is just a new way of communicating with the fans, sort of like giving out autographs. Just need to teach the players how to do it right and in moderation.
I really think osu has made a pact with the devil and it won't take too long or too many losses before they find out what kind of monster they've inherited from Gatorland. He'll be yelling at players like BK, benching them after one interception, getting gas pains after a loss, etc. etc. Local media guys were previously fearing he'd come to town since I likes to get media folks fired for saying bad things about his program. Should be fun to watch if the going gets rough.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:05 PM ^
Honestly, let them tweet and give them social media training. Tell them what's acceptable practice and what isn't. Let them know someone from compliance will have every single one of your tweets logged every day and if you break any of the team social media rules, there will be consequences. It teaches responsible use and how to function as an adult in a complex social media world.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 PM ^
let's not have Desmond Howard do the Twitter-training seminar for student-athletes.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:24 PM ^
The more I thought about it, the more I would want it to be done by someone from Compliance. They're the "bad guys"* anyway, so if you need a team big brother watching what you say, why not the people who would need to know if you violated any NCAA rules?
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:46 PM ^
It is clear (because Troy Woolfolk authored one infamous injury-related Tweet in I believe 2010, and then earlier this year he Tweeted on how the team had been told to not do any Tweeting about injuries) that the Michigan football team is already operating under some content-restrictions regarding social media, at least concerning team matters like injuries.
I'd suspect, too, that there are many other potential Twitter-pitfalls, too numerous to name, apart from "Injuries," "Recruiting/Compliance," and, in the case of Denard Robinson, "jealous ex-girlfiriends." (Granted,it is really hard to blame Denard Robinson, for an ex-girlfriend's freakout on Twitter, but it is a slippery slope...) The solution in Denard's case was to terminate his Twitter account, yes?
So there's all of that. And I don't think that there's so much as a whiff of a First Amendment free-speech issue. None. Whatsoever.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:07 PM ^
I would let the players use Twitter on a case by case basis if they can effectively explain why they need/want to do so.
I think this policy would have the same effect as a Twitter ban.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:13 PM ^
This might be a good idea as some players benefit the team by being on twitter... Shane Morris comes to mind.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:08 PM ^
No way, man. Thats like banning facebook. Make them keep their profiles private if youre paranoid.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:14 PM ^
Many professional teams have twitter bans. The ones that do allow it set very strict groundrules and have employees that monitor all of the players' accounts. I imagine coach Hoke has some rules in place or has at least spoken to the team about it.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:14 PM ^
...players & coaches actually write their own tweets? I'd have assumed that AD Brandon has a PR specialist ghost writing all of this stuff.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:14 PM ^
So this means we don't get to hear about Tyler Moeller whining about the opponent every time they lose?
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:16 PM ^
While players have standards to which they must adhere, it really isn't fair to expect them to give up their first amendment rights just to play football.
If it was my call, I would have a social media seminar as part of orientation. It would include horror stories with examples of really bad tweets and FB posts. Then, I would explain to them that, even though it isn't fair, everyone is watching what they say, looking for an excuse to create controversy.
I would also tell them that, just like they have to up their game on the field, they now have to up their game off of the field. Then, I would give them guidelines for what is kosher and what isn't. This would be similar to what most workplaces call "professional behavior," and designed to help them present themselves and the University in the best possible light.
Then, I would institute some kind of three strike rule with a warning, a week-long suspension from using the media, and finally an "indefinite suspension." Players on "indefinite suspension" could earn back their rights at any time by demonstrating that they are mature enough to handle freedom.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:23 PM ^
There may be a 1st Amendment issue here. State and federal government bodies are very limited in the types of restrictions they can put on speech. That applies to schools (Michigan, OSU) putting restrictions on players (e.g. Twitter ban).
One rule of thumb is that a "content-based" restriction (e.g. "no tweeting about politics is allowed") is per se unconstitutional. In this instance, it's the medium that is banned (Twitter), not a particular subject or viewpoint. So it might be fine.
Another rule of thumb is that the restriction on speech cannot be overly broad. To ban tweeting completely, wherever it happens (such as from the student's home) and whenever (in the off-season?) would probably be unconstitutional.
A ban on tweeting while on football facilities or during practice hours would probably be fine. Anything else would trigger legal questions.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:23 PM ^
These players are grown ass men. Let them do what they want and have them suffer the consequences. That, or do a better job of policing your own players so that they don't commit any crimes.
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:43 PM ^
Absolutely not. I'm sure there is a Twitter policy already and you have to trust your players to make good decisions within a set of guidelines. I use Twitter to keep up with hobbies (bicycle racing), work and it's a great way to find out about new technologies and stay in touch with friends. Not everybody is a stereotype Twitter user i.e. "I bought shoes".
January 3rd, 2012 at 1:45 PM ^
@TWoolf29.
January 3rd, 2012 at 2:16 PM ^
I think you probably should be banned from twitter.
January 3rd, 2012 at 2:23 PM ^
I banned myself. Better for everyone that way.
Thank you, for your continued support and interest.
January 3rd, 2012 at 2:01 PM ^
Local radio in Cbus is hailing this story as an indication that Meyer is going to run a tight ship. To me, he just set himself up to look like a huge hypocrite when he doesn't discipline certain players for breaking this new rule. One thing I've learned from parenting is that rules don't carry much weight if you don't enforce them.
January 3rd, 2012 at 2:06 PM ^
http://twitter.com/rstukenborg/statuses/154272557745451009
@DhaniJones @DesmondHoward Banning Twitter is like not teaching kids how to cook because stove gets hot. Teach em how to use it effectively.
January 3rd, 2012 at 2:25 PM ^
You just know, when it starts, "@DhaniJones @DesmondHoward," it's not going to end well.
January 3rd, 2012 at 4:00 PM ^
Good thing twitter wasn't around on 1990. For the amount stupid, barely coherent shit that Howard says as a 40 year old man I can't imagine how idiotic some of his tweets would be as a 19 year old kid.
January 3rd, 2012 at 2:29 PM ^
That analogy is good and a quality coaching staff can surely teach their players how to utilize Twitter without incident. However, it's still comparing apples and oranges. Don't learn to cook = don't eat (at home anyway). Don't learn to Tweet = don't say something asinine?