Leaving Texas Tech for the Cincinnati seems like a downward move. One of the weirdest coaching moves of the year in my opinion.
Leaving Texas Tech for the Cincinnati seems like a downward move. One of the weirdest coaching moves of the year in my opinion.
Must be getting a pay raise I guess.
Looks like Narduzzi is staying at MSU another year.
Narduzzi to Texas Tech.
You heard it here first.
Yeah, this is a strange move, but maybe Tuberville thought he was on thin ice after that incident with his assistant coach.
Cincy > Lubbock
Pretty much everywhere > Lubbock.
Columbus = Lubbock of the North
East Lansing = Lubbock of Michigan?
Is more like the Lubbock of Michigan. Lubbock is deep in the middle of nowhere.
Have you ever been to East Lansing?
I wouldn't say that EL is in the middle of nowhere--it's right next to our state's capital.
Don't bring Escanaba into this. Lubbock is far worse. As a current resident of Lubbock, I get it Tubbs.
of unbridled Yooper rage. Escanaba is quite nice nestled on the shores of Little Bay de Noc. I'll take the view of Lake Michigan any day over the greater Lubbock metro area.
Maybe Cincy is Big12 or ACC bound? Some Texas Tech fans are suggesting they'd have a shot at Dana Holgorson or Sonny Dykes. They aren't going to outbid Ok St. and Dykes isn't leaving Cal before he coaches a game there.
"The university has been disappointed by the Big East's massive exodus and lobbied to get into the Atlantic Coast Conference. Instead, rival Louisville got accepted by the ACC, leaving Cincinnati hoping it could make the move in a few more years."
Cincinnati's estimation of its own upward mobility is one context in which a move like this might make sense for them anyway, as the name Tuberville brings with it some credibility already. That, and a few articles out there seem to indicate that Tuberville was looking to make 2012 his last at TTU anyway and that he had hoped for an SEC job ideally, so perhaps this is Tuberville trying to re-establish his own upward mobility (and get into the SEC) by producing winners in a less competitive conference.
Everything about college football makes so much sense to me lately.
To paraphrase Sheldon Cooper: "This is sarcasm, isn't it?" /s
Cue the Big East > Big XII schadenfreude
Big East >Sec and Big 12 now. Cool.
Technically Louisville is moving to ACC, so it is ACC > SEC > B1G/Pac12 > BigEast > Big12. So ND did the right thing and joined THE power conference. (But then Maryland went and screwed up the entire hypotheses.) /s
(Still love your avatar.)
...I am thrilled. This guy is well into his career, too, so the odds of bolting, as so many other coaches have from UC lately, is very low -- plus, hell, he LEFT Texas Tech to come to Cincy. A fantastic hire. I don't think the Bearcats could have asked for much more than this.
You could probably replace all the UC's and Cincy's with Texas Tech and find that exact quote somewhere on a TTU board 3 years ago. He just bolted from a seeminlgy stable job at TTU so I wouldn't rule him out to do it again
If he were going from Cincy to Texas Tech, 10 years ago? Sure. This way? I'm not so sure. I think he's going to be there a while. And hell, at Cincy? They'd be happy with anyone who's there more than three years, at this point. All signs were, as others have said, that he was going to be run out of Lubbock soon, anyway.
Tuberville sees where Butch Jones and Brian Kelley ended up...maybe he sees success at Cincinnatti as his way back to the top. When Meyer has his personal issues look for Tuberville to take over Ohio, Texas, the next big SEC job that opens up, or USC if Kiffin flames out...who knows, I just think Tuberville sees the stepping stone that is Cincy. Plus he is now further expanding his recuiting ties from the South to Texas to Ohio. Sounds like a good business move to me.
Does it still count as a stepping stone if you are walking down the stairs
? On my phone. Can't edit.
1 step back to take 2 steps forward...i also don't consider TTech to be a premier job, but a good one. He now has expanded his recruiting base and is at a school that has produced UT's and ND's coaches.
I guess my thinking is UC has hired up and coming coaches and Tubberville is a retread and known quantity. I don't think UC will open the same doors for him so his decision to take a step backward really confuses me.
UC has had 3 head coaches in 7 years. This is the second time in 3 years they will have someone other than their regular season coach leading them into a bowl game. What they wanted, quite obviously, was stability. This gives them that.
There are no points for hiring up and coming coaches when they use your program as a stepping stool and each one leaves without even seeing a single class graduate. What they need is someone who can stabalize all the progress they've made and keep them in the sights of the ACC or Big 12 so they can get out of the disaster that is the Big East.
Mack Brown will leave Texas for Colorado State.
Mark Richt will leave Georgia for Wisconsin
Nick Saban will leave Alabama for Auburn
Brian Kelly will leave Notre Dame for Alabama at halftime, and beat himself.
Lol. That last one gave me a good laugh. Thanks
Wanted to get their own coaching exchange program going.
did the orbit of the earth change and we are all now in some strange opposite world?
Well UC has been a better football program recently.
...that means that th big 12 isn't as good as...um...whatever conference Cincinnati is in.
I love logical fallacies so, so much.
Why so difficult to comprehend?
I can imagine a world in which people leave jobs when they are simply not happy with the cotextual conditions, relationships, and so on. Humans are not always robotic rational economic actors (yes that is redundant). And coaches tend to be, save a few obvious exceptions, human.
Thinthinatti is a heckth of a thool
It will be interesting to hear his reasoning for doing this. Makes me wonder if he was unhappy with the support, or lack there of, in Lubbock.
He'd be skipping the mid-major head coaching step that most have him slated for next, but I think he'd be a great hire.
The Big East is imploding, Cincy is one of the only plausible schools that could be added to a bigger conference. They saw how Louisville essentially invested their way into the ACC and now they're determined to show a commitment to football so they overpaid to get a big name. Not that surprising. The new Big East football TV deal is likely to only pay out $60 million a year in total, this is desperate for them.
When the ACC implodes, Cincinnati has probably earned their way into the resulting middle class football/elite bball conferences. Which, yes, would be the Big East plus but would have the biggest TV deal of the non-power schools and control the Orange Bowl revenue. T
Huh? Seth Doege threw the ball 496 times for almost 4,000 yards. That's not anywhere close to Lloydball.
I mean not everyone is going to replicate a Mike Leach offense. Also, it's also a little easier when you have Michael Crabtree to throw to.
I mean I'm not trying to say Tubberville is a godsend and I probably don't know as much about TTU as you do but it seems like you're critczizing the dude for not being able to follow in the footsteps of one of the best offensive minds in the nation who had the perfect QB for his system in Harrell and a 2 time Bilieitenkoff winner to boot.
Your previous statement still doesn't make sense.
Tuberville wasn't a pass-all-the-time coach before he got to Texas Tech, but he was still flexible enough to allow the team to throw the ball almost 500 times. Whether you like it or not, that's not a conservative approach to football. He might not have been as aggressive as Mike Leach, but that's because Leach is a crazy man. That's like saying Leon Hall wasn't a good cornerback because he wasn't as good as Charles Woodson, or like saying Denard Robinson isn't fast because he's not as fast as Usain Bolt.
gotta stick with the coaching tree
I thought he had family ties to that area.. I guess it was about the $$
Maybe he started hearing stories about CJK5h and wanted to get out of town before they ghosts of the dearly departed 5 started to haunt his sleep.
Unlike his last job, Tuberville left before everyone wanted him out. I think it was a great move. Since the average amount of patience for a coach who doesn't win right now is three years, and it only takes one bad year after the first three to get fired at most schools lately, I am guessing that he felt like he had one or two years left at TTU.
Tech isn't that great a place to coach IMO. Besides the limited resources, it's no longer the #3 school in the state. I think Baylor, with RG3's Heisman, Art Briles contract extension, and the new stadium has surpassed Tech. I also think TCU, which is now in the Big XII, has passed Tech. So Tech is just not that great a place to coach because recruiting wise, it is less desirable. Lubbock isn't great either, and I know that neither Tuberville nor the Tech community embraced each other, so it's probably for the best.
The move makes sense for Tuberville and Tech can find a coach that better fits them.
I think this is great for both Tommy and Cincinnati. Upgrade all around. I'm still suspicious of Butch Jones being a great coach. He's obviously good at maintaining a successful program but I'm not sure he's a stud that some people make him out to be.
There might have been a little bit of grumbling because he bitch slapped a graduate assistant. Typically doesn't go over well when you're hitting students.
He ripped the assistant's headset off of his head.
I'm not buying the idea that Tuberville left before he got thrown out of Lubbock. That's not how coaches operate. If they did, Rich Rod woud have got the heck out of Dodge in year 2 - it was pretty obvious his seat was going to be scorching hot in year 3. As we all know, he stuck around, ended up fired and got a cool $1.5 as a parting gift.
Are you really saying that leaving before he got fired - going to Cincy nonetheles - was worth foregoing a potential buyout "if", and that's a big "if", he got fired next year?
Tuberville is angry with someone in Lubbock - the AD, the administration, or both. That's got to be the reason for his lateral move to a Big East program.
Leach was having issues with them as well. There might be seething ingrained out there. That or he wanted to get the hell out of Lubbock, which TBH I have great sympathy for, there are nice places to live in Texas. Lubbock isn't one of them.
The administration at Tech is an embarrassment, Lubbock pretty much sucks, and Tech fans wanted him gone. He was going to take any job he could that would get him out of here, and I don't blame him in the slightest.
Tuberville's wife is from the Cincinnati area. She may have wanted to return home.
I hope you are right, Magnus. As much as I despise Narduzzi, and as much as I really like Greg Mattison, I think a good case can be made that Narduzzi is the best Asst. Coach/Coordinator in the Big Ten.
I'd love to see Narduzzi gone. I think he has been the one essential element in whatever success Sparty has had in the Dantonio era.
I'll happily be the first to congratulate you on this prediction if it turns out to be correct.
I'm on the other side where I don't mind him staying at MSU or moving onto another Big Ten school. I'd really like to see Big Ten schools retaining their talent. We need a better and deeper Big Ten from top to bottom. Obviously though, it's Sparty. We want them to do bad (or at least worse than us). But I'm pretty confident with the way things are going for us, that we will beat them consistently from here on out. I'd like for them to still be a respected program though that we can count on as a quality win.
I don't know if this comes off as a controversial view point or not...
it was a "weird" move but think about what conference is easier to win. Now eventually the Big East will be absorbed into one of the super conferences but for now it is an easier path to a BCS bowl through Cincy.
"Now eventually the Big East will be absorbed into one of the super conferences"
That's already happened, one school at a time.
It's possible Cincinnati might be able to follow, though their stadium issues may be a problem they can't overcome. But the 2014 Big East isn't going to be absorbed, in toto, into a superconference.
You're not hiring Tuberville unless you plan on being getting out of the festering corpse of the big east. They'll announce a stadium expansion before the end of next week, book that
Interesting - the TT fans seem happy he's left them.
What school did dantonio coach at? Wasn't he at Cinn? Dantonio, Kelly, Jones, and now Tuberville, I guess CMU coach wasn't ready to make that next jump.