Trouble getting under the 85 limit?

Submitted by caup on

The current number of recruited players on scholarship break down as follows:

 

Class of 2012:  10

Class of 2013:  20

Class of 2014:  15

Class of 2015:  13

Class of 2016:  29

Transfers:         2  (O'Korn and Isaac)

Grand Total:     89

 

This means M needs to shed 4 scholarships between now and fall camp.  But who?

I think there is an obvious one not getting his 5th year.  But that still leaves us with 3 other potentially messy partings that could bring more bad press to Harbaugh.

I'm a bit worried about this. 

caup

February 7th, 2016 at 9:23 AM ^

There are 10 5th year senios.  9 of them are valuable assets that we do NOT want leaving:

Bars (he gone)

Kalis

Magnuson

Wormley

Godin

Chesson

Darboh

Drake Johnson

Jeremy Clark

Braden

It could be argued that those 9 are all starters at some point.  You don't give the handshake to starters.

 

mackbru

February 7th, 2016 at 9:17 AM ^

Dude, you must be new here. Every season attrition takes roughly 4-6 between now and fall. Guys transfer for playing time. Fifth-years get the handshake. And  injury claims 1 or two guys. It happens EVERY year. They accounted for this. Chill.

caup

February 7th, 2016 at 9:30 AM ^

and we've  ALREADY have the attrition you are referring to:

Richardson, Green, Strobel, Taylor-Douglas, Gant, Henry, and Cole.  That's 7 guys who had eligibility remaining.  And we still need 4 more guys to go.

That means we will have had 11 guys leave with elgibility remaining. And nobody is worried about the bad press, eh?  Just me, okay.

 

pkatz

February 7th, 2016 at 9:40 AM ^

So you are the only sane one here and the rest of us are deluded. I'm guessing after all the hard work done this past season and during recruiting was for naught, and the administration should just take the next step of dropping the program because we will never, ever get to the 85 scholarship limit. Or... the coaches know a hell of a lot more than you do and we will actually be ok.

Gee, I wonder which scenario is more likely?



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Albatross

February 7th, 2016 at 9:49 AM ^

Get used to hearing it get dressed up in different ways, i.e., the Firm Handshake, the natural attriction (which you have pointed out is already sizable), Meritcrocy, etc.

But when it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, you can come to a pretty safe conclusion that it's a duck.

Look we can debate the ethics of oversigning all day, and the more mature people on here can actually have an intelligent discussion on it. But let's call it what it is, which is oversigning.

Me personal, I don't care for it. Everyone has a right to have their own opinion on it. But just don't piss on my head and tell me it's rain.

 

 

ABOUBENADHEM

February 7th, 2016 at 2:53 PM ^

you are looking too far out and basically extrapolating with too straight a line. Further, that needing to "lose" 3 or 4 guys between now and the fall is "normal", and that by your definition of "over signing" many/most schools are in same situation.

Knight

February 7th, 2016 at 12:11 PM ^

every single year well before spring practice even starts because there are more than 85 guys in line for scholarships. There will be normal attrition like there is every offseason, whether for playing time, academics, personal reasons, legal reasons, etc. These are 18-23 year old kids, their situations change all the time. Yes, coaches may tell players to pursue other opportunities, but if I was an upperclassman and was destined to ride the pine I would want to hear that upfront from the coaches so I could do what is best for my future. This happens all over the country at every level of collegiate sports. Some people expect to have EXACTLY 85 scholarships accounted for at all times, but that is totally unrealistic, unless you want to end up with 80 scholarship players at the end of fall camp and hand out 5 to walkons that are not all going to be a Glasgow or Kovacs. Not a great way to compete for championships.

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kevin holt

February 7th, 2016 at 3:22 PM ^

I was agreeing with you. I was saying those on here uncomfortable with "oversigning" are mixing up legitimate roster planning (natural attrition) with actual reckless oversigning (forced attrition)

Alton

February 7th, 2016 at 10:15 AM ^

Last season by my count, there were 6 scholarship players who left the team after signing day in February but before fall practice in August (Blake Countess, Chris Fox, Jack Miller, Dennis Norfleet, Ondre Pipkins, Dan Samuelson).  Only 1 of them was a 5th year senior who was not renewed. 

As was stated above, 6 is pretty much an average number for attrition between early February and early August.  It will happen, and in some cases we will be disappointed in who it is, but signing 3 or 4 fewer Freshmen wouldn't prevent the attrition.

1WhoStayed

February 7th, 2016 at 1:09 PM ^

We are lucky to have fans who can count to 85.
Maybe one day we'll have a coaching staff with this talent. (Here's hoping that happens.)


In reference to 2 posts by caup with the following:
“And for the record, the only thing I am worried about is the bad press, because those articles piss me off.”
“And nobody is worried about the bad press, eh?”


As for me, if I personally find something acceptable - it doesn't matter one bit what some hack in the press writes.


I won't argue with those who claim a moral high ground. But wanting to make decisions to appease the media? Ridiculous.

Rabbit21

February 7th, 2016 at 9:17 AM ^

I have a feeling the coaches know who is likely to leave and who has said they are exploring options. In any case it will more than likely work out without any funny business, let's worry about it if the funny business starts to happen, agree that I'd prefer to pass on speculation as well.



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