All the best at ASU. Great family support. Sorry it didn't work out here.
I think you're being a little hard on him. The guy has decent mechanics and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him do well at ASU.
Threet has a good arm, but he is far from the Tom Brady school of QB mechanics. Most of his good throws were somewhat sidearm jobbers.
Who said he was Tom Freaking Brady? And don't COACHES work with a kid to change mechanics? Uh, paging Rod Smith...and the rest of the offensive guru geniuses allegedly on the UM staff right now...
If Tom Brady is your standard, well, I suppose you might find a good quarterback every 25 years or so. Good luck with that
And for the record: YOU sir, are no Shakespeare. I suggest you give up writing and posting from this moment on.
Threet's problem was always overthrowing his receivers. The quick, shorter passes might be just the thing to cure that. Hitting a closer target is obviously easier.
Maybe that's because the o-line had a combined three games of experience, and he was throwing under duress every time.
make it about 13 (Schilling had 12, Ortmann 1, I believe), but your point is made. That 2008 O-line had issues. I'm not sure any QB would have been successful behind it.
A Pro Style QB would have been fine...
^^^ sarcasm... I figure it's early enough in the morning to warrant this warning ^^^
If Ryan Mallett hadn't been Rodriguezed he'd have been the Heisman winner in 2008. /RCMB
It didn't matter if Lloyd stayed or not as soon as Mustain transferred out of Arkansas Ryan was headed home. The only reason he came he was because he was afraid of the competition with someone so close in eligibility to him.
Threet did overthrow receivers - true, but his short passing game was atrocious. He had little touch or accuracy. In fact, Sheridan actually showed much more aplomb in the short passing game.
I do think that he actually read the defenses fairly well, and by stating the above, I am not at all saying that he could not improve greatly - he was a rs freshman during the 2008 campaign. It is also true that his O-line was a sieve. Very tough circumstances to succeed.
I also have no problem with him leaving. He was a square peg in this offense. He never said anything bad about the program or the coaches. I will be rooting for him.
Oh, wow, I sure hope the UFR isn't too complex for my fragile little mind. Will you please help me understand the big words?
I only occasionally questioned Threet's ability to know what he was supposed to do, but I frequently saw a lack of ability to actually do it. Hopefully he's asked to do things more in his skill set (and it appears he will) at ASU. Best of luck to him.
Threet's problem was running an offense with 9 other new starters, and true freshmen at most of the skill positions (remember Odoms, McGuffie, Shaw, Koger)? Tell me how Mallett would have done behind the 2008 offensive line.
Threet's other problem was injuring his elbow, which was a direct result of him running the offense his coach asked him to that was directly antithetical to his style of play. I admire his tenacity.
He will be good to very good at Arizona State. I ultimately think he, Mallett, Tate, Denard and Devin will be in the NFL. In whole or in part, they are all Michigan players and they should be supported by Michigan fans.
I know he had a tough row to hoe in '08 being in a new system and a ton of new teammates playing in it, but even taking that into account, I don't forecast NFL in his future. I haven't kept up with his career truth be told, hopefully he proves me wrong.
I hope he has great success. I really do. If nothing else, he gave us one of the only highlights from the 2008 season.
Do you believe a lumbering giant can run like a gazelle? Well... okay, not quite a gazelle, but you get the point.
"mother ostrich running with egg".
but hey, tomAto, tomOto.
So no doubt if he gets the job he will be improved over what we saw in 2008. But I don't think his problems that year can be entirely blamed on not fitting into Rich's offense. Some of it was youth and inexperience. I also wonder about his accuracy and timing -- it seemed like there were moments (however rare) where he had good protection and an open receiver, but just missed the target.
That said, it would be great to see him do well. I'm rooting for him -- may Tate kick his ass in the Rose Bowl this season!
I think judging Steve Threet by how he played in Rich Rodriguez's offense would be like judging Denard Robinson as a quarterback in a Mike Debord offense.
He has - and should have - a clean slate at ASU.
I think he could be successful there, wish him the best.
young and inexperienced, in an offense that didn't suit him, had virtually no offensive line, and took a beating.
All of this after coming here to play under Carr, but ended up with RR as head coach with about as far different a system as imaginable.
And through it all he did not complain one bit, even after leaving.
I just don't think that merits snarky comments.
There once was a quarterback at Michigan who played behind another pretty good quarterback. When our protagonist's senior year rolled around, there were many in the fan base who wanted him to continue as a backup. His arm was not strong enough, his precision not precise enough, to lead the team to glory. Many called from the young phenom with great physical tools and passion to start in his place. Better to get him on the field soon, and begin building his confidence since he would be leading us to hoist many glorious banners and glittering trophies in the future. Our hero was something of a late bloomer, who didn't compare very well on paper to the young stud behind him. if we had known that the damn Yankees would lure him away, some of us might not have clamored so loudly for Henson to replace Brady. While smart money would be placed against Threet's being the next Tom Brady, he's young enough that he might still be able to find a system in which he can have success. I wish him luck - he gave his best, despite working within a system not suited to his strengths.
Exactly. He was a trooper for us. Because of that I hope he is successful.
Hey, I wish the kid well and all, but drawing analogies to a future NFL Hall of Famer is a bit much.
A John Navarre comparison I could buy. I think his story is a little closer to Threet's - a modestly-hyped QB who unexpectedly was thrown into the starting lineup earlier than expected (if at all).
Who was calling him a future NFL Hall of Famer? Not too many were even calling him a future NFL starter. As I said, smart money is against Threet seeing the level of success Brady has. My main point is that there is an extent to which we have zero idea what will happen in the future. I hope the kid does better than would be reasonably assumed based on information currently known.
Forget the pros. Brady was an awesome QB when he was here - one of our best ever. Threet's got a ways to go to come close to that level. This is akin to comparing any 3-star tailback recruit to Mike Hart.
Let's see: what do Brady and Threet have in common?
They both played QB at UM.
Both are fairly tall.
I think that's it. Threet's sidearm delivery means he can't throw over even a major college line, what alone an NFL line. He has no accuracy, nor does he have much velocity.
Comparing Threet to Brady is like comparing Rynearson Stadium to the Big House.
I'll never forget seeing him rumble down the field late during the Wisconsin game! You just knew the Wisconsin D was thinking, "there's no way he's keeping the ball." Suddenly Threet's in the open field and getting run down. In my mind, I'm repeating, "please HOLD ON TO THE BALL!"
Ahh.. the bright spots for us fans have been somewhat few and far between these past couple of years.
Here's hoping for marked improvement in 2010!
Looking forward to seeing how these young men perform on the field this year.
I think that play probably hurt the draft stock of Jonathon Casillas. And I remember being elated at the time, thinking, "if Threet can gain 40 on that play, imagine a fast QB running it!"
That is all.
expecting to compete with Ryan Mallet then stayed to run the read option. Much respect.
I've got nothing but respect for Threet. So far as I could tell he gave us everything he had.
The only problem I see is that ASU wants him to run a short, quick passing game. IMO, one of his biggest problems was how long his release was. So, unless he took care of that, I'm not so sure how he's going to fare in a quick pass/screen offense.
wait for threet to do really well so every mgoblog poster can shut up about how despicable he was. i hope mike williams and ezeh can do the same thing too.
Uhhh... pretty much this whole thread has been people supporting him.
thread does not make up for the ubiquitous posts when he transferred lambasting him for being a "horrible qb"
I hope that every Michigan athlete that so far has not been successful, will bloom into a big time player. That would probably improve overall performance quite a bit.
I have no first hand knowledge, but I would bet that Threet's decision to transfer was not 100% his decision. I have a feeling he was told by the coaches that they wanted to start fresh with the younger guys. My main reason for thinking this is that ST took the job in the first place, and tried to make the most of it in 2008. I think if it was up to him (and he would be given a shot at winning the job as the best player to win games in 2009), he would have stayed and fought it out, because he has some confidence and he really would have been the best option in 2009.
However, my theory is that RR encouraged him to move on, sacrificing experience in 2009 to build for 2010. I think and hope the staff has been playing rope-a-dope these two years and are ready to pounce in 2010. Let's pray they have, and that when they do it will all have been worth it.
So when Rodriguez had about 70 scholarship players, he encouraged his returning starter to go elsewhere? I doubt it.
Threet would have been a better option as a quarterback than Denard Robinson as the backup.
It didn't just start at Michigan.
Threet first went to Georgia Tech, a four star QB, mostly because Mallet went to Michigan. But as soon as he got to Atlanta, Paul Johnson was hired, bringing with him his flexbone option offense. Obviously, bein' a square peg in a round hole, Threet left and went home... And when he got home, to play under Carr, Carr was later replaced by Rich Rodriguez, who brought his spread option. It's just bad luck. So not only do I wish Steven the best of luck... I also hope that Arizona State doesn't replace their head coach, anytime soon, with someone who runs the spread!
Paul Johnson started at GT the same year as RR at UM, 2008. Threet had already transferred the year before. With that said he does have a history of transferring.
My understanding was he transferred from UM partly because he wasn't guaranteed the starting job.
Still I wish him the best.
Threet was unable to make quick decisions, and was an inaccurate passer with a long wind-up (not as bad as Tebow). These seem to be issues if you are playing in an offense that relies on quick drops/decisionmaking, and delivering accurate short passes into tight spaces quickly. Maybe the article was not talking about the same Threet. That's the only thing I can think of; otherwise, it makes no sense.
Threet wasn't able to do all that, playing in a totally new scheme--as a freshman who had never taken a college snap before 2008?
If Threet gets a chance to start, I might go over to a Sun Devils game (there will be a lot of empty seats, (god college football sucks in the west) and watch him play. He wasn't Tom Brady (but then Tom Brady wasn't Tom until the latter stages of his senior year). He wasn't Drew Henson (punk), nor John Navarre (only one D1 school besides Michigan wanted him at QB - Northwestern), but he came into a tough situation with young talent or injured talent and a pretty poor offensive line. And when he transferred, we can't confirm he went all Toney Clemons or J. Boren on the program.
minus whatever in one night? Its been done, but anyways - some of you who are familar with some of my post concerning Threet know that I am familar with him and his family down here in Adrian.
I really rooted for this guy, a local high school football star. It was awesome to see him start for Michigan and I wanted not only the best from him but my team. I do feel he gave us mostly everything he had.
Threet is one of the main contributors to the Free Press article - he threw Michigan under the bus. After him and his dad (Jewel) met with RR he decided to transfer, he felt he wasn't being treated like the football player 'he' thought he was. I'm not going to rip on him, not yet, but it's time we, as Michigan fans, know who those players were that contributed to that article - and I am telling you, whether you choose to believe it or not - Threet was the guy who started all of this bullshit
But at the same time I'm not going to give this any credence until I see some additional sources. Nothing personal.
I saw Threet come here to play for us, get thrown into the shark tank with a really poor offensive line, little run game and young WRs. He played for us, in a system that didn't exactly fit him, clawed his way back from injury a few times to keep playing, up to the point where he and Sheridan were on the bench and we had to give Feagin snaps against tOSU.
I have to balance what you said against what I saw. It's easy to type things on a message board. I for example am about to go bang Megan Fox, aka get Raback's seconds. Sources man.
I read an article the other day where she said she's only had sex with her high school sweetheart and Brian Austin Green.
So counting Raback (who I'm assuming is Brian Austin Green) and me (I just left her place), you'll be #4 on her list.
Why are you reading articles on Megan Fox? Why?
"I'm not going to rip on him, not yet, but it's time we, as Michigan fans, know who those players were that contributed to that article - and I am telling you, whether you choose to believe it or not - Threet was the guy who started all of this bullshit"
Hey, kids. Do you know what H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y spells? See if you can find an example in the quote above!
FWIW, the article is on the Yahoo! homepage now with Threet's picture front and center.
Best of luck to threet. I hope he does well.
em0? Is that you?
Looks like Threet can't catch a break. He's never going to find a pro set to run things out of.
Hey, at least this is the pass-happiest spread offense he's going to have to suffer through the implementation of.