You are not the ipitomy of an MSU fan. I'm glad you had a good time at the game. I had a good time watching it, too!
A trip every Big Ten fan should make
What the above poster meant to say was that "ipitomy" should be spelled "epitome."
Thank you Magnus. I enjoy reading your blog/insights.
You must have been wearing the epitome of a rye grin as you typed that.
All spelling nazi kidding aside, good post by the OP. We've been thinking about that trip for next year instead of Alabama in Jerry World. Sounds like a great experience.
"Can't read, can't write"
It goes without saying but the place to avoid is that wretched hive of scum and villainy in Ohio.
However for places to go, Lincoln is definitely on my list. All I've ever heard is how nice everyone is even if it's a Rival fanbase.
I drive by it almost every day. Sometimes I take the long eay home, just to avoid it.
First thought that came to my mind after Nebraska joined the conference (well, the third, after momentarily reliving early January 1998 and the 2005 Alamo Bowl) was that I now have a reason to go to Lincoln and see a game. Everyone raves about how great it is.
Similarly, I'd recommend making the State College trip. Had a great time out there, would do it again in a heartbeat.
I had a good time at Penn State, too. The fans were pretty cool AND the hot chocolate was excellent.
Also see: the ice cream. If only Peachy Paterno was distributed outside Happy Valley...
1. Dog feces thrown at me.
2. Random guys trying to fight.
3. Getting yelled "Go Blow."
Of course, haven't gone back there since 2004...
All kidding aside, I've heard Lincoln is great. Would love to go.
RationalMSU, how do you feel seeing the Nebraska atmosphere and then comparing it to the MSU experience (for away fans). Are you embarassed at all?
I can only speak for myself. I really place a high value on treating visitors with respect. Despite the running joke on this board, I think the majority of MSU fans especially alumni feel the same way. I'm not saying we are Nebraska (we're not), but I would guess that visitors from other Big Ten schools get treated better at MSU than Michigan fans do due to the rivalry. I wish we could have a respectable rivalry, but we don't. I've been to UM for the MSU game and don't think that UM fans don't taunt MSU folks. It goes both ways. Just look at how I get trashed on this board by "some" posters. It's very easy to use a wide paint brush.
Not sure if I answered the question, but "yes", I would be embarassed if I saw an MSU alumni acted inappropriately. I don't think there is anything wrong with some good natured ribbing/trashtalk, but there is a line that everyone should know.
I'm sure it goes both ways. Hats off to those who attempt to maintain the standard of respect
It absolutely goes both ways. I have had some enjoyable experiences with fans from other schools, and always try to treat them with respect. If someone drives/flies from Lincoln to Ann Arbor, they are a serious football fan and deserve seeing the best of what Michigan has to offer. Those of us who are alums or students make a very strong statement about Michigan when we treat visitors cordially. This courtesy has been extended to me on trips to Madison, State College, West Lafayette, South Bend, etc.
Over the last two years, when PSU and Bama have played, the PSU fans were blown away by the hospitality they received at Bama and reciprocated in kind this year at State College.
I have spent a few days in Lincoln over the last few years. You won't meet nicer people and the town itself is nice with decent food, etc. I'm looking forward to making the trip next year.
Good post, OP.
I shared in another thread that I had free tickets to the Notre Dame - Navy game this weekend. My son is a Notre Dame fan (he takes after my dad unfortunately). He is 12 and feels that he needs to point out to people around us that I am a Michigan fan inside Notre Dame Stadium. I don't cheer for either team and remain seated when they play the fight song. I would be suspect anyways because of my lack of involvement in the game.
It was funny to hear the fans around me ask me questions (after he had outed me). A couple of women felt the need to share that they didn't like The Big House because they had been pushed around during the game a couple years ago. She went on to say how these men while cheering and jumping were shoving them and they thought it was rude. An older gentleman (a Michigan fan) told them to settle down and not push the women. All I could say was that there are jerks in every stadium, you are blessed if you don't have to sit next to them. She nodded and then dropped this gem; they were wearing shirts that said "Ann Arbor is a Whore". Now while I think pushing people is over the line, I lost some sympathy for her when she stated her attire.
I'm sure everyone has a different opinion from mine, but here's my thoughts anyways. I don't wear my Michigan hat to a Notre Dame - Navy game because I feel that I am just trying to draw attention to myself. Sure I see people wearing gear for a team that isn't represented on the field that day and that's fine. That's their choice. I like to cheer for my team and don't mind the occasional ribbing or trash talk - sports can get heated. I'm just not one to try to incite anger in people around me because some people get very emotional about sports. Can you wear a shirt that says "Ann Arbor is a Whore" to The Big House? Sure. I'm sure that a few people might make you wish you hadn't by the time the game is over though.
what a great learning experience for your 12 year old. Make sure he asks grandpa about why Ann Arbor is a whore. Classless, arrogant fans at ND. I've had a few ugly moments there over the years.
I did go to MSU this year, and to be honest my wife and I were treated very well. One over-lubricated fan (adult) behind me went overboard when Denard went down ... but otherwise no thing bad. This includes my pre-kickoff desperation trip to the bathroom ... in the MSU student section. I was fully decked out in my M gear (the standard away #86 jersey, of course) and the students were fine ... one student got a little too "rude" but actually the rest of the students told him to shut up ... I was impressed.
So what you're saying is, that it's the exact opposite of going to a game in East Lansing?
I might make the trip next year for the game. What was Lincoln like?
We don't care about Gholston's performance.
He's a dick. That's all we need to know.
thug. And he hates old people, children, and dogs......
He is a dick, but a talented dick. He's Ron Jeremy.
He is *Ron Jeremy's dick.*
Thanks for posting! It sounds like a great place to visit. I've been to each of the B1G schools except Minnesota, Wisconsin, and now Nebraska. Would you suggest putting Nebraska at the top of my list of places to visit, over Camp Randall?
(P.S. Husker Nation is clearly not concerned about the environment, releasing all those balloons into the atmosphere. Point-source pollution!)
I'd put Camp Randall first. The Badgers really get into the game, although they all show up late, and it is a really good scene at the stadium. The reputation for partying in Madison is well known and the people tend to be very nice (unless you are from Iowa). Game parking was easy....we park at the U of W hospital and take a bus to and from Camp Randall.
Madison itself is a decent and attractive city, and if food is your thing, there are dozens of good restaurants. The town and the U of Wisconsin itself are both situated on a lake. In some ways, Madison reminds me of Ann Arbor, but on a much larger scale.
but as you say it is bigger, with lakes. It is also without a nearby decaying metropolis and it is distinctly more left leaning. I have not been to all the B1G campus towns (missing Happy Valley and now Lincoln), but Madison might be the nicest. There are good reasons it always makes the list of the top places to live in the country.
My roommate is a PSU alum and went to a game at Lincoln back in the 90's and also said it was the best away game environment he had ever been to. He apparently went out in Lincoln Fri night with a PSU hat on and the owner of the bar allowed him and his friends to drink for free all night since they drove out to watch the game, and he wanted to "thank them for coming". That alone makes me want to buy tickets now for next year.
That's interesting. When I went to the UM/MSU game I received 0 taunts before the game but 7236 taunts after the game
Are highly underrated, in my opinion. There's something about getting heckled by drunk fans that does not adhere to me, maybe it's just me?
I recently moved to Omaha, and I must admit the Husker fans, while completely obnoxious about their own team (most seem to think that they are easily the best team in the country and just get screwed by the refs), are actually generally pretty friendly and willing to talk about college football intelligently. I haven't been to a Husker game yet, as I'm trying to save that experience for when we play there next year, but I'm definately looking forward to it.
I've heard that from everyone who has ever attended a Neb game. For example, I sat next to some Washington fans the last time they played at Michigan. They were very impressed with their reception in Ann Arbor, but said that Lincoln was even more hospitable---gracious hosts, whehter they are running up the score, or losing, doesn't matter. I think it also helps that we're a "new" home for them---the Nebraska fans I know are pretty excited about being in the Big Ten.
to visit some of our B1G rivals, and experience their "hospitable" fans.
After they experience they're first trip to Columbus next year. They're in for some system shock traveling to places like Ann Arbor, then going there.
The Nebraska fans were a blast in San Antonio in the days leading up to the Alamo Bowl in 2005. Well, aside from their sheer tenacity in yelling "Goooooooo Biiiiig Reee-eeeeedddd! GO BIG RED!" everywhere they went, every 30 seconds, 24 hours a day. It was cool the first couple times, but not so much after that. Especially whilst riding in an elevator.
"It must not be their average fan who goes to bowl games, because these guys are assholes". They were drunken jerks at the bars before the games; they came over to the team hotel to gloat after the game. I ended up thinking "this is the classy Nebraska fan?". \
Best Bowl game opposing fans I've been around was, surprisingly, Texas. (Washington State wasn't too bad...but...Washington State). Florida are probably the worst. (USC is bad, but they only care the day of the game, so they don't count as much).
I too love a good rye grin: welcome change from your everyday wheat or corn grins.
I went out to watch a volleyball game there about 10 years ago, and I was utterly blown away. There were 16,000 out to watch an NCAA tournament game with the band in tow. It should be quite an experience for our women's volleyball team when they play there.
The Haymarket district is a great place to grad a beer and meal, and I suggest the NZone for fans of sports bars.
It's a reason I'm so looking forward to this rivalry.
Also, when Pelini gets it going, all that great atmosphere above will be the reason Ne starts pulling 3rd pickings in Ohio (behind Ohio and M). Thank goodness for you that Dantonio recruits almost exclusively on a national stage. Great post outlining your inevitable doom.
Sat in the Nebraska section in Norman in 2000 with an OU hat on. They were really good natured and cool. OU slapped them around that day too. I was impressed with how positive and knowledgeable they were.
The only other game in town is the USHL Junior A Lincoln Stars. My son played there briefly and the rink atmosphere was awesome...almost as good as Yost.
When the visiting team was introduced, after each player's name was called most fans turned their backs to the ice and yelled, "Who cares?" As I recall, there were some clever chants but the highlight came 5 minutes after the goalies fought. The score got a bit lopsided so the visiting team decided they needed to "send a message". After a couple of good fights, the goalies decided to skate out to center ice, drop the gloves and duke it out. The visiting goalie suffered a minor cut and five minutes after they left for their respective dressing rooms, a page was issued over the stadium sound system. "Would Dr. So-and-so please report to the visitor's locker room."
The place went absolutely nuts. It was one of the loudest cheers I'd ever heard at a sporting event.
All in good fun...
As someone who has probably been to about 50 Nebraska football games, Rational's experience is very typical for a Husker football game. I have been at multiple games where the fans have given a standing ovation to the away team. (Usually a non-conference game where the away team gave Nebraska everything it could handle.) Overall, the fans act as advertised. Over the years I have seen very little taunting by Nebraska fans. Just like anywhere you will find a percentage of fans who think their team is the best in the world, a percentage that always think the sky is falling, a group of fans that are more rationaleand a small group that are asshats, but Nebraska is a great experience.
The balloons are released after the first Nebraska score and they have been doing that for as long as I remember. Only drawback to the games might be that every replay is shown on the big screens and they are always sponsored by local companies. Very commercial.
I recently moved to Omaha, is there anywhere Michigan fans routinely go to watch games?
Big Ten needs a Hall of Fame. A trip all B1G fans, of all sports, should make kind of place. We got the best history across all sports of any conference. I'm thinking some place on State street. Just a thought.
Nice post, Sparty. For what it's worth, the MSU game was always more of a fun thing than "hate 'em and throw dog crap at 'em" kind of game (who brings dog crap to a game?). Too many of us knew too many of them, we're friends of too many of them, to cross that line. Not that it didn't get heated; but it was more of a "brother borrowed your car and didn't gas it up" kind of thing.
Weather was brutal but great time.
I can't wait until Sparty fans all say "Welcome to East Lansing" and refrain from vandalizing cars, picking fights, or throwing beverages on Michigan fans. It might even spread to Columbus. Believe it or not, Ann Arbor fans are very, very classy to fanbases who act civilly. That, unfortunately, does NOT include Sparty or Brutus.
I was across from Revilli Hall and there were a few Purdue fans there. Everyone was telling them "Welcome". I explained the tradition of the Drum Line and Inspection before the "March to the Big House".
They asked me, "What are they saying?"
I replied with pride, "They are saying, 'Its Great, to be, a Michigan Wolverine.'"
They thought it was a cool tradition, little did they know.
It's an obsession here. There is nothing else here to share the headlines with Nebraska like the way Michigan has MSU, the MAC schools, Pro sports teams. It gets annoying but that's how it is. The Alamo bowl with the crazy ending was one of the worst days ever. That said the people here are the nicest you will find.
As I former Nebraskan I confess I got choked up reading this.
Nebraska fans are crazy loyal and certainly rabid at times, but they are decent people and generally good sports. Maybe that comes from losing all those bowl games, har.
Seriously, though, I've heard such nice stuff (from people at home, and via the Nebraska press) since they joined the Big Ten. They've been genuinely happy to join the conference (even when it looked like their schedule was going to be brutal), excited to host teams in Lincoln, eager to travel to away games, etc.. It's been a wonderful reminder of what good people Nebraskans are.
This, however, does not change my stance on that abomination of a sous-mascot Li'l Red.
After reading all this, I now have a second favorite team in the Big 10....although they are still going to be miles behind my #1 fave.
So, I'm neither a grammar nor spelling Nazi. However, I do have a question regarding the "rye grin." Was this a legitimate spelling mistake, or was it a "wry" way to point out the arrogance of Michigan fans regarding posts and spelling by a Spartan. In other words, by spelling "wry" as "rye," you could bring all the Michigan spelling nerds and Nazi's out of the woodwork, and be amused at the petty superiority displayed by the poster police.
I've always really enjoyed Nebraska and its fans.
Great addition to the B1G. Now if only the M, OSU and MSU fans could show each other that kind of respect...
My dad is a big Nebraska fan, it sucks being in grad school but I'm hoping we can make the drive from Colorado to Lincoln for the game next fall. Hopefully I wont have an exam that Monday.
Lincoln is a great city, with great fans, and a rocking stadium. A quality program to add to the B1G.
As to show my unbiasedness, I wore a Detroit Lions Suh jersey. I was surprised to see at least two other Detroit Lions Suh jerseys. SUUUUUUUHHHHH.
(I still cheered for Nebraska, from the Student Section!)
checking out AA this year and East Lansing next.
You're a good sport, the Spartans played hard, brought the best out of the Huskers. Gonna be a tight race rest of the year.
UM fans: expecting a fantastic game at your place.
Universtiy of Nebraska - Lincoln.
There's also a UNO, University of Nebraska - Omaha.
NU is traditional for us, as our fight song refers to "Dear old Nebraska U".
The UNL thing happened more recently when the University of Nebraska system was formed with the merger of Omaha University and Nebraska State Normal School at Kearney.
The iconic "N" on our helmets originally had "NU" in the early Devaney days, but the equipment managers ran out of decals and changed them to "N" Never was a "UNL" helmet.
Like I said, UNL and NU are both fine with Nebraskans, most realize B1G people already feel there's an NU.
Again, appreciate your sportsmanship, have read nothing but that Husker and Spartan fans got along great, hope that continues.
A trip everyone should make except maybe this guy
LINCOLN, Neb. -- University of Nebraska-Lincoln police say a 27-year-old man in town for a football game was cited after he urinated on a police car and the police station.
The Lincoln Journal Star reports that the man emptied his bladder on the front of the cruiser and the side of the station on Saturday around 2:40 p.m. The officer was still in the car, filling out reports.
Police say the man was taken away for detoxification. A test showed his blood alcohol content was more than twice the legal limit for driving.
The citation listed the allegation as littering by urination.
The man's name was not disclosed.
Sparty's goanna Spart when they're Spatrying
The fans were so incredibly respectful and kind. When they found out I was from out of town they started giving me all these food recommendations as well as where to go after the game. I attended with my parents, and we've all been to plenty of major college football games, and we all agreed this was by far the best experience we've ever had.
Do you really need to start a thread like that?
Cornhusker Fan Facts:
Cornhusker fans have illigalized trash tornados.
Cornhusker fans have memorized every B1G fight song.
Cornhusker fans host homecoming parties for visiting team alumni.
Cornhusker fans can get Jurassic Park back online without Dennis Nedry.
Cornhusker fans make their players pay for their own tattoos.
Cornhusker fans aren't born they simply "are."
I remember my first college football game. My former favorite team was playing Nebraska. It was a spectacle to see the Nebraska fan base outnumber our own (not Michigan to clarify) at the stadium and around town. I've always wanted to go to Lincoln ever since I had the positive impression of well-mannered and passionate Nebraska fans who had made the trip all the way to North Carolina. their team was in the Bill Callahan years, playing lousy, and they still made that drive. With that said, I'm hoping the Big House won't be a sea of red like it was at Notre Dame when Nebraska played them in 2000. At least it's a more acceptable shade of red than I saw a few years ago.
It's worth it to make it to Lincoln at least once. After I moved to Omaha I was fortunate enough to date a girl back in the early 2000's who's family had some good season tickets and was able to go for free to several big games during that time period and it was an absolute blast! Just a flat out great experience if you're a football fan. Heck, I'd even offer up my house to crash at in Omaha if anyone is making the trip... but the wife probably wouldn't be too keen on that.