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Trey Burke can become M's first 20 ppg scorer since...

Since Louis Bullock at the tail end of the last millennium.

Trey is currently at 19.1 ppg. 574 points in 30 games. At the rate Trey has been going lately, he has a legit shot at getting to the 20 ppg level and probably needs to reach it if M is going to make a strong showing in the NCAA tournament.

Trey's last 5 games:

Opponent  FG FGA FG% 3FG 3FGA 3FG% FT FTA FT% Points
Penn State 9 16 0.563 3 4 0.75 8 9 0.889 29
Illinois 8 11 0.727 2 3 0.667 8 10 0.8 26
at Penn State 5 10 0.5 1 4 0.25 7 8 0.875 18
Michigan State 8 17 0.471 0 3 0 5 6 0.833 21
at Purdue 7 17 0.412 1 3 0.333 11 14 0.786 26

Cazzie and Rudy:

Cazzie and Rudy T are the only M players to average over 30 a game for a season. Cazzie doing it in 65-66 and Rudy T in 69-70

Name GP FG FGA FG% FT FTA FT% Avg Season
Cazzie Russell 26 308     184 223 0.825 30.8 65-66
Rudy Tomjanovich 24 286 604 0.474 150 210 0.714 30.1 69-70

Cazzie Russell is joined by Bill Buntin and Henry Wilmore as M players to average over 20 a game in 3 different season's:

Cazzie, BIll, and Henry:

Name GP FG FGA FG% FT FTA FT% Avg Season
Bill Buntin 24 211     112 160 0.7 22.3 62-63
Bill Buntin 27 238 481 0.495 151 191 0.791 23.2 63-64
Bill Buntin 28 221 454 0.487 122 159 0.767 20.1 64-65
Cazzie Russell 27 260 507 0.513 150 178 0.843 24.8 63-64
Cazzie Russell 27 271 558 0.486 152 186 0.817 25.7 64-65
Cazzie Russell 26 308     184 223 0.825 30.8 65-66
Henry Wilmore 26 235 492 0.478 182 241 0.755 25.1 70-71
Henry Wilmore 20 159 371 0.429 161 212 0.759 23.9 71-72
Henry Wilmore 24 203 456 0.445 117 148 0.791 21.8 72-73

Rudy T, is joined by Mike McGee, Gary Grant, and Glen Rice as players who accomplished the feat twice.

Rudy T, Mike McGee, Gary Grant, Glen Rice:

Name GP FG FGA FG% FT FTA FT% Avg Season
Rudy Tomjanovich 24 269 548 0.49 79 132 0.6 25.7 68-69
Rudy Tomjanovich 24 286 604 0.47 150 210 0.71 30.1 69-70
Mike McGee 30 277 584 0.47 111 159 0.7 22.2 79-80
Mike McGee 30 309 600 0.52 114 169 0.68 24.4 80-81
Gary Grant 32 286 533 0.54 111 142 0.78 22.4 86-87
Gary Grant 34 269 508 0.53 135 167 0.81 21.1 87-88
Glen Rice 33 308 539 0.57 79 98 0.81 22.1 87-88
Glen Rice 37 363 629 0.58 124 149 0.83 25.6 88-89

Trey Burke has a chance to join a group of four who averaged 20+ a game for one season.

Campy Russell, Demetrius Calip, Juwan Howard, and Louis Bullock:

Louis Bullock, Michigan Wolverines, 1999 Press Pass Certified Autograph Autographed Card

Only 3 times in M history have 2 players averaged more than 20 ppg in the same season. Cazzie and Bill Buntin did this twice and Glen Rice and Gary Grant teamed up to accomplish this in '87-88

Name GP FG FGA FG% FT FTA FT% Avg Season
Bill Buntin 27 238 481 0.495 151 191 0.791 23.2 63-64
Cazzie Russell 27 260 507 0.513 150 178 0.843 24.8 63-64
                   
Bill Buntin 28 221 454 0.487 122 159 0.767 20.1 64-65
Cazzie Russell 27 271 558 0.486 152 186 0.817 25.7 64-65
                   
Gary Grant 34 269 508 0.53 135 167 0.808 21.1 87-88
Glen Rice 33 308 539 0.571 79 98 0.806 22.1 87-88

The list:

Name GP FG FGA FG% 3FG 3FGA 3FG% FT FTA FT% Avg Season
Cazzie Russell 26 308     -- --   184 223 0.83 30.8 65-66
Rudy Tomjanovich 24 286 604 0.47 -- --   150 210 0.71 30.1 69-70
Cazzie Russell 27 271 558 0.49 -- --   152 186 0.82 25.7 64-65
Rudy Tomjanovich 24 269 548 0.49 -- --   79 132 0.6 25.7 68-69
Glen Rice 37 363 629 0.58 99 192 0.52 124 149 0.83 25.6 88-89
Henry Wilmore 26 235 492 0.48 -- --   182 241 0.76 25.1 70-71
Cazzie Russell 27 260 507 0.51 -- --   150 178 0.84 24.8 63-64
Mike McGee 30 309 600 0.52 -- --   114 169 0.68 24.4 80-81
Henry Wilmore 20 159 371 0.43 -- --   161 212 0.76 23.9 71-72
Campy Russell 27 254 542 0.47 -- --   132 171 0.77 23.7 73-74
Bill Buntin 27 238 481 0.5 -- --   151 191 0.79 23.2 63-64
Gary Grant 32 286 533 0.54 33 68 0.49 111 142 0.78 22.4 86-87
Bill Buntin 24 211     -- --   112 160 0.7 22.3 62-63
Mike McGee 30 277 584 0.47 -- --   111 159 0.7 22.2 79-80
Glen Rice 33 308 539 0.57 33 77 0.43 79 98 0.81 22.1 87-88
Henry Wilmore 24 203 456 0.45 -- --   117 148 0.79 21.8 72-73
Gary Grant 34 269 508 0.53 44 99 0.44 135 167 0.81 21.1 87-88
Juwan Howard 30 261 469 0.56 1 7 0.14 102 151 0.68 20.8 93-94
Louis Bullock* 31 195 476 0.41 75 199 0.38 178 206 0.86 20.7 98-99
Demetrius Calip 29 214 487 0.44 75 188 0.4 91 123 0.74 20.5 90-91
Bill Buntin 28 221 454 0.49 -- --   122 159 0.77 20.1 64-65
Trey Burke 30 207 421 0.49 56 146 0.38 104 131 0.79 19.1 12-13

all stats from http://www.mgoblue.com

The only stats I used are from 1961 onward, if any 20+ scorers occured before this time I offer my apologies.

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March 9th, 2013 at 2:11 PM | Fuck Lou Bullock (Score:1 Normal)
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Fuck Lou Bullock

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March 9th, 2013 at 5:39 PM | Who is Lou Bullock? (Score:2 Normal)
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I can't find him anywhere in official NCAA records.....

 

 

 

March 9th, 2013 at 9:52 PM | Fair enough for off the court (Score:3 Normal)
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Fair enough for off the court reasons, but I loved watching him play.  That man could shoot the rock.

March 9th, 2013 at 2:18 PM | Surprised to see Juwan Howard (Score:5 Normal)
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Surprised to see Juwan Howard on that list.  I guess I didn't realize how good he was.  I mean, I know he was good, but to see him and not Webber or Rose stunned me.

March 9th, 2013 at 2:21 PM | He's a very underrated (Score:5 Normal)
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He's a very underrated player.  Plus he's like 42 years old and it looks like he's getting picked up by the Heat again this year.  

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March 9th, 2013 at 2:35 PM | Rose averaged 19.9 ppg the (Score:5 Normal)
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Rose averaged 19.9 ppg the same year Howard averaged 20.8.  The year before, Webber averaged 19.2.  The Fab Five was really an incredible class.

March 9th, 2013 at 2:46 PM | Yeah, they were an amazing class (Score:-1 Overrated)
March 9th, 2013 at 2:57 PM | What?  Are you aware that the (Score:5 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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What?  Are you aware that the Fab Five went to the national title game in both their freshman and sophomore years?  They went 25-9 as freshman (11-7 in the B1G) and then 31-5 (15-3 B1G) as sophomores.  They definitely topped their freshman year overall.  It was pretty bad luck that they didn't win the league title with that record.  And obviously they did better in the national title game, falling just short after losing by 20 the first time.

 

 

 

March 9th, 2013 at 3:44 PM | Yeah I was (am) very aware (Score:-1 Overrated)
March 9th, 2013 at 5:42 PM | I think this is overly (Score:5 Normal)
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I think this is overly critical.

I too was a student during their reign and attended both FF trips. To say the losses were disappointing is one thing. But to say they didn't live up to expectations is to my mind beyond harsh. We all knew they were going to be good - but the freshman year was far better than what the preseason expectations were. The soph year certainly had high expectations. And while they didn't bring home the championship, it's not as if they choked and bailed in the second round or anything. They were there at the very end and ended up perhaps one miscalled TO away from winning it.

Despite not actually winning the title, I consider those two years as some of the most successful in program history (putting aside the unrelated stuff that had nothing to do with what happened on the court).

March 9th, 2013 at 10:03 PM | Ok, I agree with most of what (Score:3 Normal)
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Ok, I agree with most of what you say. The Soph year performance in the tournament was not a disaster, and they weren't embarrassing. And the way they beat favored Kentucky in the semi was perhaps my second-favorite B-ball memory of all time.



But what Webber did at the end of the UNC game is pretty much the dictionary definition of choking.



Doesn't mean they were a disappointing (on court) class, but there's not much else you can call it.

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March 10th, 2013 at 12:28 PM | Maybe you're right and I am sounding overly harsh (Score:1)
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I am not stating that two consecutive trips to the Finals was in anyway a failure and really did not mean for this tangent down memory lane to detract from Trey and this year's team. It's really more a matter of how out of whack expectations for the Fab Five seemed to get (perhaps just in my circle?) after such a wildly successful freshman campaign. It's a product of early success and an incredibly talented group of players had many (again at least my friends and me, which seemed like everyone at the time) thinking a NC was more or less a given at some point over the following three years.

That said, comparatively this year's team has much more realistic expectations for me and the larger fan base. Maybe it's my age, but I've been sketptical about the youth of this year's team and have been pleasantly surprised by the great play of so many. Trey is the man and his potential departure after this season will leave a gaping hole, but we are also stacked with a much deeper, more balanced bench of team oriented players.

I love the idea of Trey taking his place among the Michigan greats, but I selfishly hope that he pulls a Lewan and surprises everyone with another season of brilliance.

A repeat national championship in 2017…what better way to celebrate the bicentennial?

March 9th, 2013 at 6:58 PM | "A title was expected." (Score:5 Normal)
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You've captured the essence of the entitled Michigan fan. If Michigan doesn't win a national championship during your student years, you've been cheated and you deserve your money back.


March 9th, 2013 at 7:24 PM | was gonna say--so THIS is where (Score:1)
MGlobules
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the rabid stoopid all began. 

March 10th, 2013 at 12:39 PM | Nope, not cheated (Score:1)
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But after the '89 NC, the talent amassed in '91 seemed to bode well. I'm not saying my expectations at the time were realistic (and the sebsequent years have certainly underscored that), but there was no sense of entitlement just a healthy dose of youthful naivite. I certainly don't want any money back. If anything, I wished I had more at the time to take in more especially with how fleeting the moment ended up being.

A repeat national championship in 2017…what better way to celebrate the bicentennial?

March 9th, 2013 at 5:28 PM | Hardware (Score:5 Normal)
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I was also in school with the fab five and consider it a treasure.  Looking down from the U towers upon a jubulant South University is right there alongside many fine sports memories from the era.  Frankly, it was damn fine year-round.

Maybe it is because of the football domination then, or the team being right on the heels of the '89 title, or it's just interesting triva but regardless I often think of one primary fab five fact: they never won anything.  I even recall them losing holiday tourneys.  Again, I LOVED the fab five.  But as a mantle to hang the program on, they do fall short in one fairly important category.

Amazing, magical, yes.  Champions, no.

This history has me very buzzy anticipating tomorrow.  This is the cusp of something very special.  24 hours out.  Let's all give the energy; float the stroke, carry the defense.  Bring the intensity from tip-off.  Our home.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  

Tomorrow this team can establish a new conversation, turn a momentus page.  I'm ready to help make it happen.  Are you? 

Champions.

BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE!!!!

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March 9th, 2013 at 5:40 PM | But we should note: we're (Score:4 Normal)
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But we should note: we're trying to win tomorrow to finish 13-5.  The Fab Five went 15-3 their sophomore year and didn't win the Big Ten.  That's really unusual.

 

March 9th, 2013 at 2:33 PM | Weber wasn't around long enough (Score:1 Normal)
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And had to share scoring with Rose and Howard while he was here. I was surprised that Rose wasn't on the list so I checked it out and he had 19.9ppg in '93-'94 the same year Howard cracked the list. So close

A repeat national championship in 2017…what better way to celebrate the bicentennial?

March 9th, 2013 at 4:07 PM | Webber. 2 Bs (Score:1)
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Webber. 2 Bs

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March 9th, 2013 at 5:34 PM | Juwan always had an impressive (Score:2 Normal)
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post-up game.  Even as a freshman just out of high school, he had a great understanding and command of playing with your back to the basket.  Webber was such an athletic freak of nature, he could impose his will down low.  Howard, was a technician down low and from the free throw lane down, was almost automatic facing the basket with his straight-up, high held jumper.  The two of them together were a thing of beauty.  They worked the high-low feed to perfection.  Howard usually took high percentage shots- of which a great many he converted.

Burke already has a place among the many Michigan greats.  He will join them on the stat sheets as well.

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March 9th, 2013 at 2:27 PM | To reach 20ppg, if there are (Score:5 Normal)
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To reach 20ppg, if there are the given amount of games between Indiana, BTT, and NCAA Tourney, Burke needs to average:

4 games = 26.6ppg
5 games = 25.3ppg
6 games = 24.4ppg
7 games = 23.8ppg
...
11 games = 22.4ppg (max number of games)

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March 9th, 2013 at 2:29 PM | Thanks (Score:2 Normal)
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I was about to do that math too since I didn't see it in the OP.

March 9th, 2013 at 4:50 PM | To Add Some Stats... (Score:3 Normal)
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To give people an idea of how Trey has typically performed when he has scored 20 or more points this year, we should first note that he has done this 11 times and averaged 23.8 PPG in that subset of games. 

In those 11 games, he has also averaged 3.5 rebounds and 7.6 assists. As for shooting, he has amassed a 55.8% field goal percentage and he is 48.2% from three-point land, which actually equates to an effective FG% of 63.7%. To get to 20 PPG average, to augment bdsisme's numbers, we might need to see performances like these in at least some of those games, I would think. The funny thing is that Trey, even given these target stats, is well-capable of making a run at this mark. 

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March 9th, 2013 at 4:56 PM | Good stuff. M is also 10-1 in (Score:2)
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Good stuff. M is also 10-1 in those games; The lone loss coming at Indiana

March 9th, 2013 at 5:46 PM | Refuse to Lose (Score:1)
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I think what we are seeing as the season winds down is Trey Burke taking over in important games and refusing to lose.  The Indiana game is as important as it gets in the regular season; I hope we see more of the same.

 

 

 

March 9th, 2013 at 2:48 PM | OT: have men (Score:1 Normal)
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gotten more modest? I would feel naked in those shorts.

March 9th, 2013 at 2:34 PM | I don't know if that's such a (Score:4 Normal)
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I don't know if that's such a good thing.  It would mean that we would be extremely reliant on him as a scorer.  What I really want to see is for him to finish above 7.0 assists per game (he's at 6.93 right now), because that would mean others are getting involved, too.

March 9th, 2013 at 2:43 PM | I don't think it is (Score:4 Normal)
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I don't think it is necessarily bad. Glen Rice played with a bunch a future NBA players in '89 and they rode the All American to an NCAA title.

Rice's 6 tourney games:



vs Xavier 23
vs South Alabama 36
vs North Carolina 34
vs Virginia 32
vs Illinois 28
vs Seton Hall 31

 

March 9th, 2013 at 2:55 PM | But Rice wasn't the point (Score:2 Normal)
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But Rice wasn't the point guard, responsible for spreading the ball around.  That's apples/oranges.

 

March 9th, 2013 at 3:00 PM | Lately, Beilein has let (Score:2)
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Lately, Beilein has let others initiate the offense and has Trey coming off screens more often. Let Spike, Caris, Nik, THJ initiate  the offense and let the best scorer score at the end of games. I have no issue with it.

Trey has been going into superstar mode as of late: Defer and get others involved early in games and take over late. I think we see more of this going forward.

March 9th, 2013 at 4:11 PM | Not sure if serious. You (Score:0 Offtopic)
March 9th, 2013 at 5:49 PM | Yes, I am aware.  And I'd (Score:4 Normal)
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Yes, I am aware.  And I'd much rather have him set the assist record than score a bunch to reach 20 ppg.  His big scoring games have generally come when his teammates aren't getting it done and he feels pressure to carry the load.

Trey will get his points, I'm not worried about that.  If he's also racking up a ton of assists, that means his teammates are, too.  

 

March 9th, 2013 at 5:57 PM | Agree.  If Trey hits (Score:3 Normal)
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Agree.  If Trey hits double-figures in assists in a tourney game, I'll be very confident of a win, whereas if he scores 25, that could mean we're playing a lot of hero ball.  I believe he scored a lot in the tourney loss last year, but no one else stepped up.

 

 

March 9th, 2013 at 2:55 PM | Amen. If anyone has ever ha (Score:2)
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Amen. If anyone has ever ha a better tournament than rice in 89 I didn't see it. The only minor blemish was his oh-so-close jumper at the end of regulation in the finals rimmed out. But that's a pretty minor knit in an amazing six game run to the Championship.

 

 

March 9th, 2013 at 2:50 PM | For all his sins against this (Score:5 Normal)
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For all his sins against this program, I maintain Lou Bullock was the purest shooter I've ever seen in a Michigan uniform, Glen Rice included.  His shot was a thing of beauty.

March 9th, 2013 at 3:38 PM | Yup (Score:2 Normal)
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He did have a sweet stroke & was absolutely money from the FT line.  But, I'd still have to give the nod to Rice on account that he also was just as successful in the NBA as we was in college despite the fact that his points came almost exclusively from the 3-pointers...or at least that's how I remember it....it was a long time ago.  I am surprised that Bullock never produced much of a career in the NBA.  I kinda lost track of him after he was drafted and never seemed to play.

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March 9th, 2013 at 4:06 PM | Bullock never made an NBA (Score:1 Overrated)
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Bullock never made an NBA roster.  He was a tweener, too small for the 2 and not skilled enough as a ballhandler for the 1.

 

March 9th, 2013 at 4:20 PM | I could be wrong but I (Score:2 Normal)
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I could be wrong but I believe he's been named MVP in some of the top Italian and Spanish leagues

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March 9th, 2013 at 4:25 PM | Probably (Score:3 Normal)
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After taking a look, it looks like he had quite a productive career in Europe, leading the Italian league in scoring in 2001-02, the Spanish league in 3-pointers in '03-04, and was the MVP after leading his team to a title in the Spanish league in '05.  I hadn't realized he never actually made an NBA squad.  I guess I would have figured a guy that could knock downs 3's so well would have a role off the bench as many others have had ala Kurr, Curry, Price, etc.

Strength equipment is expensive and guarantees you nothing.  A strong will is free and can give you everything you want.

March 9th, 2013 at 6:01 PM | He might have been able to (Score:4 Normal)
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He might have been able to make a team at some point, but as a 6'1" shooting guard, he was never going to be more than a situational guy in the NBA.  I don't think he tried to make an NBA team after he was cut the first year.  In Europe he could be a star.  It probably made more sense for him to stay there.

 

March 9th, 2013 at 2:52 PM | Why (Score:1 Normal)
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The fuck Louis Bullock comment?

March 9th, 2013 at 2:55 PM | A $71,000 "loan" from Ed (Score:5 Normal)
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A $71,000 "loan" from Ed Martin.

March 9th, 2013 at 3:41 PM | And the fact that Lou Bullock (Score:5 Normal)
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And the fact that Lou Bullock taking money (after there were pictures of Ed Martin posted in the locker room sayin "DO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH THIS MAN") kept U of M within the statute of limitations ("SOL") when the NCAA came knocking. Put bluntly, the sins of Webber would've not gotten U of M in trouble b/c they occurred too far in the past when the NCAA found out, but Bullock's actions started the SOL clock running again. 

March 9th, 2013 at 3:47 PM | Plus the fact he came from an (Score:5 Normal)
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Plus the fact he came from an affluent family, and had zero connections to Ed Martin before he stepped on campus.  It was entirely motivated out of greed.  

March 9th, 2013 at 3:41 PM | I like this post, but there's an error (Score:5 Normal)
ThWard
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Rice didn't average 25.9 in 88-89.  If my memory serves correct, he averaged 89+ points per game.  Unrelated note: I was 7 years old during that season.

March 9th, 2013 at 3:59 PM | Calip! (Score:2 Normal)
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Who knew that Demetrius Calip was a 20+/game scorer in the forgettable '90-'91 season? Just about 40% from the arc that year, too ... had a brief NBA career:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/calipde01.html

"..."

March 9th, 2013 at 4:40 PM | I hope Trey can join the 20 (Score:3 Normal)
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I hope Trey can join the 20 ppg club. He's been phenomenal for UM.

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March 9th, 2013 at 6:30 PM | For my money (Score:1 Normal)
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I would relish it more if he can beat Magic's points/assists numbers. That would just roil you-know-who. But there is no comparison, just as Gardner could never compare to Braxton Miller.

March 9th, 2013 at 6:53 PM | Braxton and Gardner? Wut? (Score:1)
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Braxton and Gardner? Wut?

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

March 9th, 2013 at 8:13 PM | I mean (Score:1)
Smash Lampjaw
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Joined: 11/10/2011
MGoPoints: 752

some heroes are held so preciously that comparisons cannot be considered. Ask a Buckeye fan where Braxton is in the pantheon.

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