The Columbus Dispatch is reporting that Jim Tressel has resigned.
The Columbus Dispatch is reporting that Jim Tressel has resigned.
"RT @dispatcheditor: DISPATCH BREAKING NEWS: Sources say #Buckeyes Coach Jim #Tressel has resigned. http://bit.ly/itKUuZ"
Celebrate howevver you want, enjoy your Memorial day
So does this mean Tressel has broken their streak of head coaches getting fired? I think it should count with all the others personally. For in depth analysis lets go to theexpert panell....
He was given a choice, resign on his own or be fired.
Best Memorial Day Ever!!!!!
I'm glad he's gone because we simply couldn't beat him. But this situation should not have cost him his job. Maybe a reprimand for lying in addition to the suspension and fine.
I am positive that somewhere out there on the internets exists a graphic or picture that accurately depicts an appropriate response to your statement. Something along the lines of ......... are you fucking kidding me?
I can't believe it!
I know, it's not even June yet! Hopefully June just got better (lookin' at you, Bri'onte Dunn).
Musberger is on ESPN saying "This is not a good day for college football". Being an apologist for Tressel.
It's a good day for Michigan. I suspect tomorrow will too when SI comes out and show that all their success was due to cheating. let the unravelling of the Buckeye program commence.
I see this repeated quite a bit on the blog, and I just don't see it. "All their success was due to cheating?" I'm as happy as the next guy that this has come out, but I in no way see how M fans can believe they wouldn't have been 9-1 against us anyway. Take Pryor and the other 4 out of last years game and we still would have lost, and I dare say the same applies to the two years before that. I agree that what he did goes down as cheating for sure, but that doesn't mean he didn't outcoach and out-recruit us either.
cars, chicks, cake jobs...enough said.
you oversimplify the ramifications of recruiting higher caliber athletes. not saying that Michigan would have had a better record, but also disagree with your analysis.
And who knows how many other players who were receiving illegal benefits were ineligible, do I think we would have won more games? Yes. Heck, TS alone killed us, he was one of the guys receiving stuff. You act like before the last 3 years they were killing us, when there was a lot of close games. Take away a few of their star players, could that have been the difference? Yes.
Recruiting is a lot easier if players know when they come to your school they don't only get to play for a great team, but get cash, benefits, cars.... There's a reason people cheat- it works. And it's no coincidence that a lot of teams that have had success at a greater than normal rate have been found to be dirty.
are for benefits for players already in the program. The only recruiting type violations alleged are the Pryor car thing, and The Ginn funneling players for money. The first I believe, the second has no evidence. I'm not making definitive statements here, but IMO they out-recruited us and out-coached us, and in no way do I believe they wouldn't have won, for example, last year, even with all 5 of those kids out of the game. And I don't believe they were killing us pre-RR, but I know they won the first game of Tressel's tenure against us when we clearly had superior talent. And IMO he out-coached LC on the field as well.
So you are suggesting that new recruits know nothing of improper benefits before they get to Columbus, they just all head there and are pleasantly surprised when they step on campus and can get free cars and they can sell their stuff for thousands of dollars worth of tattoos? There is a reason all of this is illegal. It is much easier to be a great coach when you are coaching top talent.
they benefits available, if we follow your line of thinking and say players knew of them prior to committing, were no different than benefits they could have gotten (the top players) at many other schools. Most college football followers IMO would agree that there was nothing unusual in discounted cars at many schools (not ours). Therefore, IMO little advantage was gained.
you would be wrong in suggesting that.. Before Tressel arrived we consistantly had better talent then OSU. Tressel outrecruited us badly...it was not a cooincedence, he cheated to get players there..plain and simple
is that there isn't any evidence for it. I'm not saying that there is no way that Tressel cheated to get players there, but if you call the Pryor car thing evidence that many other top players went there because of benefits, you are making a large assumption. And it is far too easy for us as M fans to make ourselves feel better by saying yep, that's why we lost. Its tougher to say maybe we got beat for awhile.
Before Tressel arrived we consistantly had better talent then OSU.
This is definitely not true. From about 1993 onward, John Cooper's OSU teams were absolutely stacked with talent. Think Eddie George, Orlando Pace, Shawn Springs, Big Daddy Wilkinson, Bobby Hoying, Andy Katzenmoyer, Joe Germaine, David Boston, Terry Glenn...
You don't think that when kids hear "hey, Clarett got all this cash, etc., you can too", that's doesn't make recruiting easier? You don't pay a guy to come here. You tell a guy if he does come here, he's going to get paid. It doesn't even have to be the coach. It can be a high school coach...a booster...whoever. To certain kids that sounds a lot better than "come here, you'll work hard, never get a dime beyond your scholarship, and become a better person". Some it's "how do I get PAID?"
Do I think that a game we lost 14-9, with Clarett breaking one for the first TD, when he should have never been eligible makes a difference, rather than being "outcoached"? Yes. Do I think that a 2005 game where Troy Smith almost single handedly brought them back against us, as well as tore us up in 2006, would have ended differently if he hadn't been allowed to play? yup too.
That alone would have made us 4-6 vs. him. Very respectable, especially when you count the last 3 years. Lloyd would have been 4-3 vs. Tressel, with massive injury playing a big part in one of the losses. And we'll probably never know in some of the not so close games (2004, 2009) how many other players were getting stuff as Smalls and others have said, that would have made that talent advantage non-existent when they weren't allowed to play because they were taking extra benefits.
and again, I'm not making a definitive statement. I just think that it's the wrong lesson for Michigan football to learn, as we try to return to the elite, that the last 10 years didn't really happen because OSU cheated. We were surpassed, and IMHO not all of it was because some players got improper benefits.
But enough of it to make a difference. No one is saying if they didn't cheat we'd have been 10-0 against them. But it'd be a lot closer, we'd have been closer to being "elite", and it would be easier to obtain if the recruits we were trying to get from Ohio (who we used to regularly get) weren't getting more from OSU than we can offer. It'll never be equal, because there will always be programs that cheat. But every one that gets knocked down for it, that's a good thing.
You are forgetting one thing...Pryor and the other 4 are the only ones that got caught. How many other were there that were smart enough not to get caught??? It will be interesting to see how mny are implicated when all is said and done.
are you telling me that Tyrell (everyone murders) Pryor is not that bright..... Oh...... uhhh..... Yeah I can see that.
I agree, the timing means there must be something juicy in SI's piece tomorrow.
It must have been so loud inside Tressel's head, with words that he should've said. As he drowns in his regret. He can't take back, the words he never said....
but you know, alright, already, the Show goes on...
All night, till the morning UM dreamed soo longgg
Lord please have sympathy, and forgive Jim Tressel`s cool young history as.......
.............the coolest coach what, the coolest coach what, the coolest what, the coolest coach what
He's from a city in the Midwest, worst city in the whole wide wide world...
And he never lies (he never lies, he never lies, uh)
And he never lies (uh, he never lies, he never lies, no)
And he never lies (he never lies)
Cause he never said anything at all
I'm guessing the SI article tomorrow is going to have some telling information! JACKPOT!
Pos-bang, muppets, ding dong the witch is dead!
This is MICHIGAN and we are adults here. It is childish and beneath us to use muppets and kittens to convey our happiness
Just got announced on Mike and Mike in the morning. Wow! So what now? And does this mean the NCAA backs off?
Look at the USC case. Pete left and they still got hammered.
GO BLUEE BABYYY!!! Can you say top 5 recruiting class!?!?
If the NCAA backs off, then it's an open invitation for universities to cheat. "Oops, we got caught. Sorry, we'll fire the coach and try to do better next time."
Now we can't beat him. Now let's get DUNN and Washington and the rest of their class.
it's mourning in Columbus.
I don't like that he has that record against us (although some of those victories may get vacated) but I can sleep peacefully knowing that every facet of his program was built on cheating and coverups. I'd rather play against a coach on a level playing field. Its a great day for us and for college football!
Reading the other other comments, I thought I was the only who wanted Tressel there so Michigan could beat his ass. Dunn and Washington can bring Pittman and Stanford with them.
Actually surprised he waited this long. It had to happen. Even the diehard OSU fans were realizing that.
I just saw that; this is crazy. I wonder if there's a lot more dirt expected to come out in that SI article than we originally thought. This seems an odd time for a sporadic resignation.
This is exactly what I thought. That SI story is supposed to come out tomorrow, very telling. I can't wait to read it.
Coaching searches can be challenging. Perhaps Notre Dame can provide some advice. Just trying to help.
YES BECAUSE YOUR LAST ONE WAS SO GREAT.
Nope, you can't ruin today! Have fun!!
Happy Memorial Day- jt!
Now is not the time to troll. Now is the time for you to lay low and lick your wounds. Enjoy your Memorial Day.
Would have rather had this drag out a lot longer to adversely influence recruiting, but I'll enjoy this for now.
An interim coach all season long, and recruits won't know who their coach is during that recruiting period...it can't help...
Man I was hoping he would at least wait until tomorrow to see what SI was going to report. Oh well GO BLUE!
saw the article aready -- SI probably forwared a copy for their review. And their reading of the article wasn't good for Tressel. They probably realized that he had to fall on hte sword to limit the damage to OSU from the NCAA.
Uh, I got to believe that SI has already told him and the OSU Athletic Dept what their report is going to reveal and based on this, Tressel was "encouraged" to resign rather than have to endure another firestorm.
Rich Rodriguez is available.
I was making book that someone would announce RichRod's availability within five minutes of posting the story.
That might not work out the way you are sarcastically implying it would.
could be given to you. for better or worse, let's leave rich in the past. i'm sure he's not going to be a candidate.
How long until Urban Meyer replaces him
Don't ruin such a nice moment with this nightmare. Please let us enjoy this for just a little bit longer.
yeah he won a couple nat'l champs in a short period of time, but its not like he had an amazing team every single year, we beat one of his florida teams and they SUCKED last year
they might as well hire him immediately, and turn something positive out of what looks to be a vey toxic situation this season. Turn the news cycle into "Urban Meyer this and Urban Meyer that"." Instead of Tatgate this and tatgate that."
The timing is wrong for Meyer. There's no way to know what's coming down in terms of sanctions. Meyer will be looking for an emerging power - not a sinking ship.
Meyer isn't going to take over a program that's caught under the shadow of the ban hammer. Dantonio, on the other hand ...
If UrbanMeyer wanted to coach football he'd still be winning multiple National Championships in talent rich Florida. Besides, if he quit for his families sake (no, being an ESPN talking head isn't the same as being a head coach, America) then he surely wouldn't forcibly move them from their beach house to central Ohio.
Well said, took the words out of mouth. I'm not sure any coaches are going to be beating down the door to fill that empty spot. The assistants might, but I certainly can't see any Urban Meyer, or even Meyer-like candidates lining up.
What a great day to celebrate but let's not get caught up in the excitement and forget the real reason today is a holiday.
I don't think Urban is coming back to coaching, but I would not be surprised if East Lansing has a vacancy in the near future.
Good riddance sweater vest!
that slimey cheating bastard go. But if Urban Meyer is next in line, we're in deep shit!
My guess is that the timing is wrong for Meyer to take the job...I think he was burned out from his tenure in Florida. To go immediately to a new team with a host of problems about to be hurled at tOSU from the NCAA may not be what he wants to face.
...why someone considered your post "trolling", so I moderated you to "normal".
...I like you; you're one of the more entertaining posters on here.
And it's ma'am.
True... why would he want to take over a team that is going to have scholarship reductions and, more than likely, a multi-year bowl ban? I'm not worried about Meyer.
It is actually pretty good timing for them IME. The season is a few months away so they will give the new coach the chance to at least have the fall with the team. Also, it gives the new coach a long time to solidify the recruiting class.
I was hoping it would drag out longer and culminate with JT getting the boot sometime during the season. I'm glad the guy is gone, but I wish it would have taken longer.
It will be interesting to see what impact this has on the NCAA and potential sanctions.
They won't have a new coach by fall. They'll have an interim for the whole season and not just the 1st 5 games.
didn't have time to read the actual article as I am checking the board between patience. Still, it does the the interim coach time to do both the things I mentioned. Though, it isn't an easy sell when you can't tell recruits who their coach is going to be next season.
I knew OSU was too gutless to ever fire him so this isn't surprising. But I still can't wait for that SI article.
Except that it sounds like they may have actually forced the resignation. Every ostrich has to take its head out of the sand once in a while...
publically, he resigned; however, his options were to resign now be fired tomorrow. I would assume Tressel was offered the same option this morning or yesterday, by Gee and the AD.
More often than not, forced resignation is the political way of firing someone.
Political? More like the cheap way to fired someone. If OSU wanted to make a statement that they stood for something better than what they are, they would have fired him long ago or waited until the SI article came out and fired him.
But now they don't have to pay Tressel and Tressel looks slightly less like a dbag. I would have told OSU to fire and pay me.
Cooper: 2-10-1 against Michigan
Tressel: 9-1 against Michigan
"I guess I woulda cheated too if I had to replace someone who couldnt beat Michiagn."
haha one of my buddies facebook status...peace sweater vest
In like half a hour.
Link??? Id love to watch this
....but I've got an ESPN live feed open in one tab and OSU's AD website in another:
There's a tab on the left side for Press Conferences. Here's to hoping someone streams it.
Looks like they are going to get hit hard. Tressell wants to bail before the shit hits the fan later today.
I just saw them at Disneyland driking champaign and chocolate covered strawberries together laughing.
ESPN has a full story now..
Too bad Brady Hoke never got to go Hokeamania on his cheating ass!
I can't wait for the rumors about Little Tressel leaving East Lansing to begin!
I would have loved to see him stick around long enough for us to whoop them(however far down the road that may be) but none the less, pretty wild way to wake up on my first morning back in America.
How you doing Brionte Dunn ? nice day out today huh ?
r helmetz have wings lol
Dispatch is also reporting that Luke Fickell will be the head coach this year.
Wikipedia has already been updated. Awesome.
can go to tOSU and Sparty can lose their beloved savior, and then we can beat Dantonio down South and regain dominance over MSU. Sounds like a plan to me.
What a sweet scenario.
Things have lined up pretty nicely for good ole Brady Hoke. Tremendous!
Let the bells ring! It's too bad that Tressel couldn't stay to face the misery that is going to be inflicted on tOSU. But what a messy transition is ahead of them! I don't see how this protects them from getting hammered by the NCAA, so the potential for organizational collapse is high. I just hope people realize how much they cheated in order to achieve the great ten year run of JT.
Wonder how the Tatgate 5 will feel, seeing as how Tressel arm-twisted them into not going pro after their suspensions were handed out.
Is it too late for them to apply for the supplemental draft?
Considering they just got their coach to "resign"....
Ding Dong Tressel is dead!!!
Try to take away from Memorial Day rememberance....
To remember bad guys as well as great men.
And in other news, bookstores have started immediately remaindering the sanctimonious book that he wrote -- which ought to be retitled "The Hypocrites Manual"
Cannot wait for the presser on this...
Talk about a publishing gamble gone bad...
I think your tag is especially apropos given the cirumstances...
Edit: I think they're going to need to extend a considerable "What not to do" section in the About the Author to sell this one.
I've been wondering what sales have looked like lately. The [literate] population of Columbus can only buy so many books, is anyone else buying?
Maybe they have a special coloring book edition for the majority of "Buckeye Nation."
"On page six, color in the 'pretty' tattoos/"
"On page seven, color in the faulty compliance form."
"On page eight we have a death threat to Herbie that you can color."
What are the odds that MD will leave little brother for TSIO? Or who are the other possbile coaching candidates? While I wouldn't doubt Urban Meyer's interest without the tatgate scandal, I can't imagine him wanting to jump into this situation.
I only hope the NCAA keeps digging and finds ALL the BS that's been going on at TSIO for the past decade. Then the hammer should come down if all that is alleged is true.
POSBANG!!!!!!1 Wow. Burn to the ground, Buckeyes.
I wish I had something for this moment, but I don't, so WOOO. I wanted us to beat Tressel this year, but I'll take an even more monster recruiting class than we currently have and will enjoy future beatdowns of whatever super-squeaky clean coach they're forced to hire.
Tomorrows SI article is going to be a doosy.
they take Calipari as their next coach?
This news deserves a wake and bake
Legacy and the wall he built around Ohio, built by questionable measures. Tear it all down, please.
Have a Go Blue Memorial Day, everybody!!!
Am I reading this right? No, It's not April 1st. Makes me wonder what they were afraid of in the upcoming SI article.
Will not go to OSU! Why would he? They're probably looking at a 4 year bowl ban, with who knows how many reduced scholarships.
Michigan beats OSU again.
This moment for Carr will stay with him until his deathbed:
And this stank will cling to Tressel no matter where he goes:
Both coaches earned their departure. Both will continue to reap the rewards they are due.
So I guess this is where OSU fans will tell us, "Don't get too excited. Urban Meyer is on his way to Columbus."
I've already heard it 3 times this morning.
Stay on the gas. Do not let this man fall on the sword so the university can go about it's business. There is a decade or more of corruption that may go beyond the football program. Don't allow it to be swept under the rug.
100% agree. Please, please, please media don't stop. I guarantee Thad is not a recruiting genius. He's also getting help from boosters.
Said all along he'd coached his last game at OSU.
And for those of you disappointed because we didn't get the chance to beat him around a little bit on the field....just remember, 1, you get no extra points for beating Tressel any more than you get for beating anyone in scarlet and gray. And 2, Tressel is a cheater who we now know tilted the playing field. There's no real satisfaction in beating a dishonest opponent. The satisfaction is seeing him in the state of disgrace he deserves.
St. Tress is honorable for falling on the sword. What a load of shit! The gangsta has been busted! 9-1 with an **************.
See ya, cheater.
Same with Pete Carroll, and that Dick Nixon guy.
Wow! I wake up, make breakfast, and turn on the TV and this is all over ESPN. I'm thinking the stuff coming out tomorrow must be pretty bad so he saw the writing on the wall and wanted to get out with a few shreds of honor.
I think the SI piece is going to be very telling. I can't wait to read it.
Fickell for 2011-12 so the coaching search doesn't start until the next offseason.
is Einhorn.....Einhorn is Fickell!!! They may have to get rid of him too. When the taint in Columbus proves to be systemic as tomorrows article and history shows they'll need a clean break. Who's got money on them offering Dantonio? If I were MD I would stay in Lansing but I'd bet they consider him.
Assuming Tressel was cheating all along, then Dantonio had a front row seat which might taint his candidacy. If you're riding shotgun during a robbery get-away, it doesn't matter if you only thought you were going to the Dairy Queen.
Damn. Not gonna lie, I was looking forward to beating his ass this season
The best thing to happen to Michigan the last 3 years was Pryor NOT coming here and going to OSU. He did what all the shady players who came before couldn't- he exposed OSU and brought down Tressel.
I'm going to say it's a sign that CBS Sports Net is replaying the San Diego State-Air Force game right now...
If it comes out that OSU had serious recruiting advantages under Tressel I'm going to be furious. Lloyd probably should've had a shot at a second national title in 2006.
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Cheatypants on fire!
He must have seen the full wrath of the NCAA coming. The whole staff should be canned ... or is a 2 game suspenion in the works?
Defensive Coordinator named interim Coach? Where have I heard that before. Anyone remember Lloyd Carr. Seems to me he coached for quite a long time after spending year one as an Interim Coach.
Hell, I got more respect for Woody than Tressel. Woody had one bad moment. Tressel's been sweeping stuff under the rug and lying for months, if not years.
With anger management issues, but he wasn't a cheater.
Well, this is a real special day for our football team.
No question, Jim.
Pretty awesome to contrast getting carried off the field after a big bowl win, with leaving in disgrace after getting caught cheating
For OSU's greats.
The disgrace, not the cheating.
This kicks off Lloyd Carr redemption week with a bang.
Brionte Dunn the Maize and Blue awaits.
was my first thought as well.
and i think they will look at Gary Patterson and Boise State's head coach, and lastly Mr. Bo Pelini
Gary Patterson seems to be pretty content at TCU and I will say the same thing for Chris Peterson at BSU. Pelini has the ties to that school in Ohio but why would he leave a team that is by all appearances doing well so that he can take a massive rebuild project. Pelini is an idiot and seems to me to be a no-class type of guy but I don't see him going anywhere near that mouse trap.
Came in with the end of Osama's reign of terror.
Left with the end of The Vest's reign of terror.
Hands down the greatest month I have seen thusfar.
He started coaching just Osama hit us hardest and he leaves when Osama is killed. Now we know where Tressel was channeling his strength from!
That is one hell of a coincidence.
Happy Trails Sweatervest!
I have some mixed emotions about this. He did the right thing and got what he deserved. But, he leaves with a 9-1 record against us and I would have loved to see us even up his record before he departed.
Don't worry, by the time the NCAA is done with OSU, that win total will have gone WAAAYY down.
That record is tainted if half of the rumors are true. I have absolutely no doubt that their record would be no better than .500 against Carr had the playing field been level.
He's gonna vacate a bunch of them.
WAHAHAHAHAHA!! Sorry, couldn't hold it in any longer..
But I just popped a fresh bag of Orville Redenbacher and am heading over to bucknuts.com..
A part of me is pretty sad that Michigan didn't have a chance to turn things around against OSU and Tressel. Now it seems like it's the perfect storm for Michigan over the past few months. Everything is setting up very nicely with the OSU shitstorm and how we are cleaning up in recruiting. It's pretty exciting to be a Michigan fan lately.
I keep hearing people lament the fact that we didn't get a chance to beat Tressel and are upset that he is gone....I'm not sure I understand that one. He CHEATED to win. In my opinion, that makes his record against us null and void. I could care less that we didn't get to "beat" him....he left in disgrace and is walking away from a program that is under the NCAA microscope - how much worse could you beat someone?
I see it the same way as well. Every win they had should be vacated.
I really wanted to see Hoke beat Tressel at least once. I know all that matters in the end is wins and losses, but I cannot stand the fact that Tressel has such a great record against us. There was a great hatred that I formed against the guy, but he always had an exceptional team on the field which ultimately was a positive aspect for the Big Ten IME.
Here's to hoping Brady Hoke begins a long-term domination against tOSU and the OSU fans hate him as much as most of us hated Jim Tressel for winning.
tressel drinks wine coolers
anyone has ever said about another man
serving out the punishment with the team and all that crap? I'm not sure why I am angry with this whole thing. Is it because I bought in to the "he's different" crap OSU was throwing out or because they'll never be able to even the score with him?
Regardless, he's quit....move on with the speculation of the usual suspects (Pederson, Patterson, Pelini, Meyer, etc). In all honesty, we know the NCAA is about to release the fury on the school. Who really wants to go there at this point? Lane Kiffin's the only one dumb enough to go to a school with that kind of crap rolling down.
How much do you want to bet that osu is still going to give him some kind of hefty compensation, even though, to the best of my knowledge, by resigning he makes that compensation void?
Now that Tressel is done
We can get Bri'onte Dunn !
Damn, i didn't believe the Hoke string of luck until right now. Sorry for my lack of faith
ding song the witch is dead! I still hope the NCAA comes down hard on tsio.
It's your division to lose now.
This is just great. Logic would side with OSU's recruiting class going down the drain.
Liar and a cheater! Would of been nice to see Hokes product beat him!
Whooooo. Amazing news, I did not expect that today
Now lets get it Dunn!
Interesting timing. Why announce on a national holiday? Did they think they could avoid a media firestorm and draw less attention because people wont be at work in front of computers or home watching tv? OR osu caught wind of what was in the article coming out tomorrow and it must be pretty damning. This is like when you are a kid and your parents let you open one present on Christmas Eve before opening the rest the next morning. I was planning on having an awesome day today. Now thats a done deal.
Brett Mussburger just answered your question on ESPN. Yep. Do it either on a holiday or a late Friday afternoon.
Whomever Ohio hires will not be as strong as Tressel. He and his coaching staff had it rolling.
I hate to have had my point validated by him especially after he just spent 5 minutes saying what a great man cheatervest is and how if he had a son he would have wanted him to play football for Tressel. I think the pundits trying to save Tressel's name by saying he made one mistake will have egg on their faces come tomorrow around noon.
ding ding ding. You've won! O$U figured a holiday would take some of the attention away from this story. Pretty smart move IMO.
ding ding ding. You've won! O$U figured a holiday would take some of the attention away from this story. Pretty smart move IMO.
Just about everyone in America has the day off today and anyone who cares at all about college football is currently watching ESPN.
Buckeye nuts, roasting on an open fire . . .
mmmm on memorial day no less.
Ding dong the witch is dead, the witch is dead, the witch is dead...
Cover up is always worse than the underlying offense (see Nixon, Richard, Sutart, Martha)
this is a day truly worth of MUPPETS!...The Liar and Cheat Vest is Gone..He must now walk around town with a "Scarlet Letter C for Cheater on his forehead...
The NCAA can be so Fickell...
Woody was an old man in terrible health who had lost it. Tressel was a cheat. I had a healthy hate for Woody. The disgust that most of us have had for the Tressel regime has been validated today and I expect will be validated in abundance when the SI story is released.
Of course it was, and he deserved to be fired for it. But my argument is that it pales in comparison, given the circumstances, of a hypocritical corrupt decade.
And there was no doubt he was done after it happened. But, the fondness, respect and admiration he and Bo had for one another was genuine. He will always be remembered for the way his tenure ended, but he was a good man. Watch HBO's "Ohio State vs. Michigan". His human quality became more evident in later years.
Just had to listen to Musberger on ESPN. I want Herbie. Where's Kirk? I wanna hear from the Buckeye himself.
He actually had several reasonable things to say, but you can tell he was tore up inside. Things weren't going to get better... timing best for OSU... first guess at new coach... Urban Meyer. It was gleefully painful to listen to...
According to George Dohrmann's Twitter, http://twitter.com/#!/georgedohrmann:
"I'm told it is likely my SI mag story will be posted at SI.com later today/tonight. Timing of Tress dec. will make sense after you read it"
Really? Great, if it's true.
Doug Karsch just said on the radio that he wondered if the article would be delayed now for editing since Tressel has resigned.
Apparently he also tweeted that he wrote another version should this exact scenario come to pass.
what a coward...can't believe he gets to walk away and not face the music. So much for the lessons he taught the tat 5 about staying for their final season and owning up to their mistakes. How pissed are the guys who could have jumped to the NFL right now?
This both great and terrible at the same time. Somehow I feel that OSU will escape the hammer and get a slap on the wrist now that Tressel is gone.
will be wiping up the "puddles" in an adult theater. Jim, you cheated, you lied, you quit. I always thought that school down south and you were a perfect match. F-off!
Do i dare dream you're right? Or will that jinx it?
Hopefully she suffers the same fate, caught up in her own lies and shenanigans.
says that resignation was asked for by the administration.
That would be the number of head coaches that one Terrell Pryor has had at least some influence on causing to be fired and to resign. Wish I could have seen that coming 3 years ago.
Rosenberg tweet - "Ohio State has not had a football coach leave on his own terms since the mid-1940s"
I think he followed up with, "I cut down trees, I skip and jump, I like to press wild flowers, I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars."
still a douche, and a coward.
....Do all of theplayers now start selling off all their sh*t since the hammer is about to come down? Or did they already do it?
Doug Karsch just said the timing of this couldn't be any better for Brady Hoke to swoop in and get recruits out of Ohio. He compared it to Izzo's good timing with the demise of our basketball progam.
Of course, Scott Anderson chimed in and said it's good timing for MSU as well. Blah, blah, blah, something Spartyish.
fake ass buckeyes...
the current thought making me giddy? the fact that there is a significant portion of the team that blames the tat5 for this. talk about factions where it hurts you the most. how is pryor going to lead that team when some of them hate him?
This is the best Memorial Day gift ever!
If Tressel's scalp was all the NCAA wants to go easy on the cesspool in Columbus, they are idiots. Gee and Smith are every bit as responsible for this as the Sweater.
Tressel told the recruits and one of them tom Tom?
Could be a reason why this month could be good for the boys in blue????
I can't believe the bastard resigned but I'm enjoying it
I hope OSU gets an ass-pounding from the NCAA.
"Freude, schöner Götterfunken
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische, dein Heiligtum!
Deine Zauber binden wieder
Was die Mode streng geteilt;
Alle Menschen werden Brüder,
Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt."
I have to get ready for a bbq yet I can't tear myself away from the threads on Bucknuts.com.
ESPN is a good source of some laughs. One guy seemed like he was crying while he typed his love for the sweater vest. I laughed as I read it but was also disgusted that people can be so dilusional. The guy said "How appropriate that his resignation came on Memorial Day given his incredible support of our Military. Good Luck Jim, you deserved better than your players gave you off the field!!"
The upcoming story must be a masterpiece for the vest to resign just before it was released.
If they can get a coach in waiting by midseason, they could salvage recruiting. But would be destroying their season with all the "new guy" talk. (And maybe 2 season if they're going for someone already employed). Or they can wait, and spend the whole season with a staff recruiting half-heartedly for the school, but telling them they won't be there, but someone else will. How'd that work for us, in a season where Rich was just on the hotseat, not even fired? They can name someone in December, but unless it's a homerun, it's scrambling just like we were. At least if Tressel coached the season, he could get some kids really connected to OSU, then have some guys carryover (like Lloyd did, and Rich did this year). As it is now, anyone who visits OSU goes knowing they'll have no idea who's going to be their coach for 6 months. So why not go somewhere else where you KNOW who the coach will be?
I'm sure we could come up with a worse time....but it's not a good time. It never is.
We'll never get to see Brady Hoke and his Wolverines beat Tressell straight up as TSIO coach.
Now, sorry to say, a Michigan win this year would not bring me any true satisfaction.
is so sad. Saying its unfair. Saying Tat5 should go before Tress. Liars and Cheaters. Fuck em all!
I can honestly say I did not see that coming today. Just wow.
I don't post often (as is evidenced by my point total) but in one of my few posts I had stated almost five months ago that the only way Michigan was going to gain balance again in the rivalry with OSU was if the tattoo parlor scandal went far deeper than just the players. Tressel had to be materially affected and doubt in their program had to exist. Now that this has come to pass I can't say I'm happy.
I think Tressel was and is a good coach. He beat us that first year with inferior talent. That doesn't just happen. I don't want OSU to be crushed or come close to the death penalty or etc. I want OSU to be competitive, I want this to be a rivalry again and we need to field a great team and keep up our end of the bargain. But if he even did part of what he did at YSU at OSU, then the entire Big Ten was at a large disadvantage.
I suspect this tale will be sordid and sad. I feel for Maurice Clarrett and Ray Issacs, who despite their issues, did not deserve to be sent out into the cold on their own. I feel bad for the players at OSU who bled, tried and loved their university and are going to see that sullied by a few bad seeds. I feel for Tressel's family as a scandal like this reflects poorly on all of them. This is not to be celebrated honestly - this is a sad day. I hope OSU survives and revives - if for nothing else than us.
But fair is fair and just is just. Jim Tressel deserves to be fired and OSU deserves to be purged. This has to end for that school down South to begin...again....
Let me get this straight .u feel sorry for OHIO STATE?? Wow I sure dont. Tressel didnt feel sorry for the whole Big Ten when he was cheating for the past 10 years. Tressel is a slim bag cheater and today is a great day for the whole conference. The shady bastard is gone. He is not bigger than Ohio an he sure as hell is Not bigger than this proud conference. Good ridance vest and dont let the door hit u in the ass!!
Can you elaborate about what Tressel did at YSU?
Introduced player to booster who later gave kid a car, etc
NCAA required school and Tressel to investigate. They concluded investigation without speaking to booster or player and chose to retain championship
Do you work for ESPN
Seriously though this is a comical and hilarious day at least when dealing with OSU's situation.
I hate OSU, most of the time. But I still feel it's a sad day for both schools.
We're joined at the hip with OSU in several ways; conference, tradition, rivalry. When something crappy happens to them, it's not great for us.
And most of all, I wanted to beat OSU regularly with Tressel at the helm. I think Hoke could have done it within a couple of years. I'm kind of sad he won't have the chance.
Yes, Tressel is a good (even great) coach who legitimately accomplished things. But many if not most of his achievements are now seen as resulting from his cheating. Sorry, but that's just the bottom line. I don't like it either, but he and many of his players knowingly cheated. I don't feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for the Michigan men who were defrauded by a cheating rival. Tressel should now become an object lesson for the importance of integrity, and the disgrace of hypocrisy. Even now, he is not really repentant.
So how long until Terrelle Pryor and the rest of the Tat 5 and also Ray Small get death threats?
Tress, you leave me with such a mess !!!. Great Day. These chumps were rubbing it in last year. Karma is a ...!
B's UP... hoes down.
Some quotes from former players about tressel. This one's fantastic:
"I don't know if he knew or not (that players were receiving special benefits). Maybe he didn't want to hurt his players and made the rational decision to look the other way. Maybe he figured he wouldn't win the Big Ten championship if he turned them in." -- Jermil Martin, former Buckeyes running back
Pretending that you don't know that your kids are breaking rules is a very rational decision, indeed. It definitely helps young people learn right from wrong. I'm not even sure who this Martin guy is, actually.
From Eleven Warriors today:
"What infractions? Forgetting to report that some kids sold their own shit to keep them safe? Unless there is more that we have yet to hear about I call bullshit! It's hard for me to believe that this is what's best. I can see why, I guess, but it still pisses me off.
I think the biased reporting that made this seem so much worse than what it really was influenced decisions. OSU football is easy for others to hate and they latched on to this and blew it out of proportions.
It's probably more difficult to have a positive perception of Tress living outside of Columbus being surrounded by people who are dying to talk shit about the program unless you are still seriously attached to the school somehow...
I know that traveling the entire Northeastern US I ran into haters everywhere."
I wonder if OSU traded Tressel's head for the SI article, and the article wil be withheld/not printed??? It may have had so many ugly facts that OSU wanted the NCAA to do their own digging.
Instead I'd bet it was sent to OSU over the weekend for comment and this is the result
Um, that doesn't make any sense. How does SI profit from OSU firing Jim Tressel?
If you follow the link then look at the "Hot Topic" comments... some are really funny/sad. Here is my favorite...
"Mistakes are made and he was being held accountable and given suspensions. Any other coaches have done much worse and gotten away with a slap on the wrist. But because Tressel is such a good coach the media wanted to make an example out of him. This is NOT fair!"
Of course none of this matters if we don't go out and win the next 5 games against them...
The brady hoke golden poop statues just keep coming!
I feel like we as a fanbase should collectively pour out some wine coolers for Jimmy today.
Where...did you find...that picture of me?
What a great day to be a member of the Wolverine nation! This is karma to all OSU fans that ridiculed us when we changed coaches. I guess Tressel wasn't so great after all!
They still think JT walks on water and it's the Tat5 who are to blame.
They're all dirty.
I know Fickell is going to coach out the season, but looking beyond 2011, the obvious replacement for Jim Tressel is Mark Dantonio. MD is from the state of Ohio, he's coached at OSU, and most importantly, his record at MSU shows that he'd maintain the high ethical standards of OSU players that was established under his former boss Tressel.
Christmas 2011 came a little early this year!
Happy Memorial Day everyone!
I just read an interesting suggestion, which may or may not be true:
ie---that Tressel’s getting axed was partly related to
1. The unwillingness to release Tressel-Sarniak emails---soon to be referred to as "The Scarlet Letters." The refusal suggests that there was much, much more to find,
2. The wealthy OSU alums—the Wolf family-- who run a local TV network and the Columbus Dispatch were induced by OSU to try to do a “hatchet job” on the student newspaper that broke the Small story (the Lantern). Then, when The Lantern produced tapes of the Small interview, major media were embarrassed by a student newspaper, and the Wolf family was exposed.
The Moral: Don’t embarrass wealthy alums---or reveal that the “Wolfs” are wearing sheep’s clothing
Reading the article I was really impressed with his winning percentage. After the NCAA gets thru with the investigation I wonder how much it will drop. I just hope there will be severe sanctions and games vacated.
GO BLUE and Happy Memorial day!
I think as more back story comes out over the next week we will learn, and be able to guess, what was coming down the pipe.
The timing of the firing suggests that they had some lead time that Cheaty was going to get hammered.
The big question was whether the NCAA told Ohio State that they were going to get creamed just over what was known, or if there was another huge issue about to go public.
Michigan for sure, ND absolutely...but a team that has been hurting that could also benefit.
MSU...but i'll take tOSU downfall even if it helps little bro.
in epic thread.
Anybody buying Herbie's explination that Tressell "just got too caught up in being loyal to his players"??
Hehe. I'm just giddy.
We're all giddy!!!
but after reading about his building a scheme to withhold their latest B1G rings until they promise not to sell them this year or something, if he was father figure, he was a pretty wimpy father figure. His kids/players needed some good whipping into shape, not continual coddling and covering up. Right, Roy Smalls, Mo C?
Jim Tressel is a sanctimonious son-of-a-bitch: He leads an ethics class and writes a book about winning the right way and pretends to be a good Christian, all while doing this (Genuinely Sarcastic, for those who have read already). He throws Clarett under the bus and lets buckeye nation run the likes of Herbstreit and Speilman out of town. He's an asshole seven ways from Sunday. Buckeye fans should hate him with a passion. The greatest stretch against Michigan in their history will forever be tainted with his cheating and lying. The NC in '02 was won with players on the take. Why do you stand behind this man, buckeyes?
Best part - 38 seconds in Ge willikers almost says that Tressel submits his letter of recognition.
for jt is predictably a blue map with one red state, but surprisingly, Ohio is currently 51% No/49% Yes split. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=114187.
For more interesting reading, the deposed radio host Hooley has a column on Pryor being JT's downfall at http://www.foxsportsohio.com/05/30/11/The-downfall-of-a-Buckeye-legend/landing_ohiostate.html?blockID=529482
So did Jimmy McCheatervest fire the president on the way out the door?
Unhappy trails, Tressel. C YA!!!